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Hey all, as much as I can understand the feeling, if we can stick to the topic of new modles/rules/editions, this thread will be more productive.

We do have an active topic on pricing Here.

 Red Corsair wrote:

I am also wondering how they handle Dark Eldar. maybe the real space raiders detachment will count as one freebee? Otherwise it will drain CP in order to take wyches along with warriors from the same damned book lol.

I’m hoping they do something like errata Raiding Force to make DRUKHARI Patrol detachments free or something, otherwise the army is going to be wrecked...

Not Online!!! wrote:
Any guesses for the new necron warriors?
Pricetag that is.

At least $60, I would think, right?

 Vaktathi wrote:
Hey all, as much as I can understand the feeling, if we can stick to the topic of new modles/rules/editions, this thread will be more productive.

We do have an active topic on pricing Here.

Is that topic really applicable for speculation though?


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 H wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Any guesses for the new necron warriors?
Pricetag that is.

At least $60, I would think, right?

It's entirely going to be dependent upon what the unit is setup as or how many are in it.
$60/20 might be the pricepoint to assume for Warriors if in fact they're going to be 'cheap' units.

Ice_can wrote:

 Apple Peel wrote:

Ice_can wrote:
Which army can't actually fit enough units in a brigade to pass 2k points? MSU spam is going to be somewhat less of a thing now, but GW has never supported MSU spam, they just accidentally wrote rules that did.

Pure Militarum Tempestus armies can’t make brigades.

They can break 2k with a Battalion so mute point, they can still make a 2k list in 1 detachment.

They’re restricted in their troops and elites slots. How many unfilled Taurox Primes and/Valks would you like to see on the table? Troops and troops with less ablative wounds are Militarum Tempestus bread and butter.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Any guesses for the new necron warriors?
Pricetag that is.

I'd say look at the most recent troop box for sisters for an idea. Though I'll cease commenting on that. I'm sure they are all fine models even if I don't like the cartoony necron skull faces from the new warriors kit.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's entirely going to be dependent upon what the unit is setup as or how many are in it.
$60/20 might be the pricepoint to assume for Warriors if in fact they're going to be 'cheap' units.

I personally do not think there will be 20 in a box, at most I would speculate it would be 10 per box.

They will be 10 per box for the warriors I am pretty sure on that.

AngryAngel80 wrote:

That is the real thing right ? The only people who don't think the prices are insane, are those so deep invested they only need a thing or two maybe now and then. When you show it to others who don't play or have stopped and think of restarting ? The price tags make your head spin as you ponder how much a workable force will cost.

It is not about being so deep invested, but there are just small increases over time, if you are always there you just see the small steps

if you checked for a Land Raider last year, it is now just a little bit more expensive, something you can live with it.
If you stopped playing during 5th and never bought one because 45€ was too expensive for a single tank, the 65€ it costs now will just blow your mind

Same with the Starter Box, compared to the last one is seems ok, but having the same models for double the price as one of the older ones (and if the romours are true it is 3 times the price of Black Reach)

 H wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's entirely going to be dependent upon what the unit is setup as or how many are in it.
$60/20 might be the pricepoint to assume for Warriors if in fact they're going to be 'cheap' units.

I personally do not think there will be 20 in a box, at most I would speculate it would be 10 per box.

That's what people said about Mortek Guard for Bonereapers, and they're $60 for 20.

Black Reach was such an exciting time for 40k to be there for it. So many new players got in with that box. It sold like hot cakes around here. The time period was one of the most excited I remember being for 40k I got to witness close up.

8th was similar in the hope we all held for the system. I don't feel like 9th will have that same feeling for a number of reasons. Some will be the kits will have perils all their own, the excitement of loss leader product won't be there, I don't think as many believe this new edition will bring balance and with the state of the world games will be few and far between for a good few people.

I hope I'm wrong but it feels like a bad time for a new fresh push and hype. The models look good and if it follows the same trend as the last starter it means necrons will get some new stuff at first and maybe a month or two after release but it more will usher in just more Marine glut and countless bloat in books past the Necron excitement.

That is if trends from the last starter and edition are anything to go by I mean past the stuff Deathguard got in the beginning of 8th they didn't even get a look, where as Marines have gotten a second codex and tons of model support.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 H wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's entirely going to be dependent upon what the unit is setup as or how many are in it.
$60/20 might be the pricepoint to assume for Warriors if in fact they're going to be 'cheap' units.

I personally do not think there will be 20 in a box, at most I would speculate it would be 10 per box.

That's what people said about Mortek Guard for Bonereapers, and they're $60 for 20.

Hopefully we don't get the 10 for 40$ chainrasps, which are still just easy to build kits.

I guess it depends on whether there are 10 sculpts or 20, and how the sprue is set up. If it's 2x10, then expect we'll get 10 per box (for more than the soon-to-be-increased price of the current set, no doubt).

There's a non-zero chance that it's 5 to a box based on art that's floated around.

Really HOPE NOT, as 10 per is kind of required for a Troops choice, but...

*stares in Howling Banshee*

Wakshaani wrote:
There's a non-zero chance that it's 5 to a box based on art that's floated around.

Really HOPE NOT, as 10 per is kind of required for a Troops choice, but...

*stares in Howling Banshee*

5 per box would be really really awful.

I think we're likely going to get 10 per box and 3 scarabs. I just hope that maybe it won't cost 40 bucks.

I'm not sure there will be scarabs with the warriors. The new ones aren't in the main picture, just in the smaller picture of the boxed set contents (or what we think is the boxed set).

Since there are at least a few weapon options, there may not be room.

I don't think they do 20-man units anymore for 40k. Thats for AoS.

Voss wrote:
I'm not sure there will be scarabs with the warriors. The new ones aren't in the main picture, just in the smaller picture of the boxed set contents (or what we think is the boxed set).

Since there are at least a few weapon options, there may not be room.

Eh, I don't think not being in the big army picture means they are not in the warrior box, though it is possible they may only be available in the boxset.

I imagine they'll release them as a separate unit, making it easier for people to plan their units rather than being slaved to the number of warrior units they've bought.

I never liked the 'scarab/ripper on other unit sprues' concept, hopefully they're ending it.

I actually hope there will still be a place for troop units. I actively want to be able to use my humble chaos space marines. All those boxes of basic chaos space marines were not cheap. And I bought them because I liked the new sculpts. I would be kinda sad if it makes little sense to field them because everyone is just going for elites, heavy support, FA and characters only.

I really hope they address melee. And not melee as represented by characters but melee as represented by melee units. A lot of melee units have become almost unusable in 8th ed. And characters were more relied on in melee because they cannot be shot at, and they pack as hard a punch as melee units anyway. Melee units need to be looked at.

Voss wrote:
I'm not sure there will be scarabs with the warriors. The new ones aren't in the main picture, just in the smaller picture of the boxed set contents (or what we think is the boxed set).

Since there are at least a few weapon options, there may not be room.

There are at least two Scarab bases in there, over on the right. 1 per 10 Warriors maybe? With the 20 Warriors shown, that's work out right and suggest 10 Warriors, not 5, per box.

Which would be better than the 5 for certain.


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The starter box shot, with Scarabs on the far right:

https://storage.googleapis.com/spikeybits-staging-bucket/2020/05/c7a1e8e2-necron-9th-edition-preview.jpg

The worrisome "Maybe it's just five" shot:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQsOL4gybj3KT4Ak--9Tjz7czuK3hm_hMXfPDhNASCoWPpOJt9z

Here's hoping it's 10/box and 1 Scarab tossed in as well. (Kind of like Tyrannid units, which get enough Rippers to make one base per box)

Wakshaani wrote:

Voss wrote:
I'm not sure there will be scarabs with the warriors. The new ones aren't in the main picture, just in the smaller picture of the boxed set contents (or what we think is the boxed set).

Since there are at least a few weapon options, there may not be room.

There are at least two Scarab bases in there, over on the right. 1 per 10 Warriors maybe? With the 20 Warriors shown, that's work out right and suggest 10 Warriors, not 5, per box.

Which would be better than the 5 for certain.


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The starter box shot, with Scarabs on the far right:

https://storage.googleapis.com/spikeybits-staging-bucket/2020/05/c7a1e8e2-necron-9th-edition-preview.jpg

Yeah. The starter box- that's what I'm saying. Not the warrior kit itself.
The only reason to think there will be scarabs in the new warrior kit is because the current warrior sprue has scarabs.
That they're both in the starter box pic is happenstance, not evidence they'll be together in the warrior kit.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Any guesses for the new necron warriors?
Pricetag that is.

$60USD for 10 is my bet.

They’re showing those 5 because they’re the easy build ones we’ll get in the 9th Ed starter box. The proper kit will be a box of 10. That’s what I reckon anyway.

Voss wrote:

Yeah. The starter box- that's what I'm saying. Not the warrior kit itself.
The only reason to think there will be scarabs in the new warrior kit is because the current warrior sprue has scarabs.
That they're both in the starter box pic is happenstance, not evidence they'll be together in the warrior kit.

On the one hand true but on the other? That's be silly. They're just a little part that you can add to each sprue and the Warriors don't have a ton of variety... two weapons, no real options like sergeant stuff … it'd be insane to NOT have them on there.

Probably every new infantry kit will have one or three in the mix.

Making Scarabs their own box means there's something else they can sell for an exorbitant price. Like Nurglings.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Making Scarabs their own box means there's something else they can sell for an exorbitant price. Like Nurglings.

Nurglings at least look like a proper swarm, unlike 4 Scarabs on a base.

Aren't there more on these new ones?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Aren't there more on these new ones?

I assume so, but I haven't seen any images of them leaked. My comment was more that the updated Nurglings are a massive improvement over what came before and what we currently have for Scarabs.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Aren't there more on these new ones?

I assume so, but I haven't seen any images of them leaked. My comment was more that the updated Nurglings are a massive improvement over what came before and what we currently have for Scarabs.

You can see them in the space marine half of the starter set image that was leaked, down in the bottom left. And they do seem to have more Scarabs per base, seems like maybe 6 or more now.