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Well, arseholes.

I honourably and respectfully withdraw all my berating that it was simply ‘The Dragon’.

Because there’s no shame in admitting when you were wrong!

Voss wrote:
Oh. So... still no generic c'tan shard.
That's exciting.

Almost as exciting as the green putty bloating this model beyond practicality.

This and silent king are the first two real knocks these new necrons have taken.

The burning one shard from the obelisk/vault kit has been demoted to having the rules for a generic shard despite still being referred to as transcendent, seemingly incorrectly.

Some very expensive upcoming months for me. Adore that Void Dragon miniature now we have a proper look at it.

The Silent King looks strong as well.

Anyone taking bets which Oldmarine characters will be cut from the codex?

I think I'll be pushing the few left I want to finish up my Astral Claws up the 'to buy' list...

This really reminds me of final fantasy 7 end battle. And FF end battles in general.



Wonder if that is where GW gets it's inspiration.

Really cool though and I never though i'd see anything like that in 40k.

Wonder if GW will update the deceiver/nightbringer.

Those Necron characters look amazing, can't wait to get my hands on them. My only worry is that my poor little Imotekh and old metal Nighbringer are going to look quite puny next to them. Great stuff though.

Also, that Chaplain on bike is very nice, it's going to fit nicely into my little Black Templar force.

Well this release is looking good, and really expensive for some people.

Well tau are definitely gundam inspired, and the new bikes look very Akira, so it's possible gw have been watching a bit too much anime.

I think it's looking more and more likely that the old marines are not going to stick around all of this edition and will probably be off to legends in a year or two

anybody who needs anything from the range had better get shopping as soon it's going to be Primeris as far as the eye can see

So this is just the collected page for all 4 videos and several pictures.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/04/warhammer-40000-preview-new-models-revealed/

But the background of the full shot of the silent king and all his stuff, there is a thing in the upper left on top of a building- several buttress arms arcing the ubiquitous 'putty lightning' to a crystal like the one on the current monolith. That looks like a plastic terrain piece to these eyes. (though the square building it rests on does not)

It looks like it might be a custom-built piece...but it's definitely seeming to be seated upon one of the FW Tomb Complex tiles.

Wow, a helmet for the Techmarine?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Wow, a helmet for the Techmarine?

Both of the Marine characters have a helmeted and unhelemeted head, per the stream.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Wow, a helmet for the Techmarine?

Both of the Marine characters have a helmeted and unhelemeted head, per the stream.

Honestly I just really shocked, that's all.

 Oguhmek wrote:
Those Necron characters look amazing, can't wait to get my hands on them. My only worry is that my poor little Imotekh and old metal Nighbringer are going to look quite puny next to them. Great stuff though.

Also, that Chaplain on bike is very nice, it's going to fit nicely into my little Black Templar force.

I'm already planning an Imotekh conversion out of the overlord in Indomitus - the tacyhon arrow is perfect base to convert into the Gauntlet of Fire.

As for Nightbringer, I'm still kinda hoping for a dual/tri build kit with the Void Dragon. The Deceiver wouldn't be too hard at least, just a head and arm swap, plus lose the wings.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I think it's looking more and more likely that the old marines are not going to stick around all of this edition and will probably be off to legends in a year or two

anybody who needs anything from the range had better get shopping as soon it's going to be Primeris as far as the eye can see

Which is good. Just release proper terminators and get rid of the split lore. And just update models. Maybe what they should have done at the start. Other model lines have updates. Not sure why it's such a problem for marines as well . Just make em use the same base size and people can slowly update according to their income.

SF

Who bets the Techmarine will be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the same price ?

 Aaranis wrote:
Who bets the Techmarine will be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the same price ?

It doesn't take much to be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the points cost you pay for them.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I think it's looking more and more likely that the old marines are not going to stick around all of this edition and will probably be off to legends in a year or two

anybody who needs anything from the range had better get shopping as soon it's going to be Primeris as far as the eye can see

Honestly besides a random idea of greed I never got why GW didn't just outright upgrade marines into Primeris in one go. Like they did every time before. It seems really odd to have two model lines in the same army that are basically copy-catting each other.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Aaranis wrote:
Who bets the Techmarine will be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the same price ?

It doesn't take much to be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the points cost you pay for them.

Well, better in what manner? $5 says the Techmarine won't have a reroll aura or a lot of shooting.

 Overread wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I think it's looking more and more likely that the old marines are not going to stick around all of this edition and will probably be off to legends in a year or two

anybody who needs anything from the range had better get shopping as soon it's going to be Primeris as far as the eye can see

Honestly besides a random idea of greed I never got why GW didn't just outright upgrade marines into Primeris in one go. Like they did every time before. It seems really odd to have two model lines in the same army that are basically copy-catting each other.

It tooks 30 years to build that line. There is no way to upgrade and release it all overnight without seeming excessive. Hell, people complain the amount of models they got in 8th was excessive, I'd hate to see what the whole line dropping at once would do.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Aaranis wrote:
Who bets the Techmarine will be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the same price ?

It doesn't take much to be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the points cost you pay for them.

Well, better in what manner? $5 says the Techmarine won't have a reroll aura or a lot of shooting.

I wouldn't be so sure about the shooting. Heavy Bolter on the backpack is already kinda nice.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Aaranis wrote:
Who bets the Techmarine will be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the same price ?

It doesn't take much to be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the points cost you pay for them.

Well, better in what manner? $5 says the Techmarine won't have a reroll aura or a lot of shooting.

I wouldn't be so sure about the shooting. Heavy Bolter on the backpack is already kinda nice.

It should have been a heavy baby bolter though...

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I think it's looking more and more likely that the old marines are not going to stick around all of this edition and will probably be off to legends in a year or two

anybody who needs anything from the range had better get shopping as soon it's going to be Primeris as far as the eye can see

Honestly besides a random idea of greed I never got why GW didn't just outright upgrade marines into Primeris in one go. Like they did every time before. It seems really odd to have two model lines in the same army that are basically copy-catting each other.

It tooks 30 years to build that line. There is no way to upgrade and release it all overnight without seeming excessive. Hell, people complain the amount of models they got in 8th was excessive, I'd hate to see what the whole line dropping at once would do.

He presumably means why didn’t they just give everyone the primaris organs at once.

Though honestly given the power creep on the bikes and melta gravis guys, I’m circling back around to “What was the point to primaris in the first place?” Again.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Aaranis wrote:
Who bets the Techmarine will be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the same price ?

It doesn't take much to be a better version of a Tech-Priest Dominus for the points cost you pay for them.

Well, better in what manner? $5 says the Techmarine won't have a reroll aura or a lot of shooting.

I wouldn't be so sure about the shooting. Heavy Bolter on the backpack is already kinda nice.

It might be a Heavy Bolt Cannon or something similar.

It s a nice model

When all the marines have crossed the rubricon primaris, marine armies will have the model count a of 3rd edition marine army but will cost as much as a 7th edition sisters army

 Jidmah wrote:
When all the marines have crossed the rubricon primaris, marine armies will have the model count a of 3rd edition marine army but will cost as much as a 7th edition sisters army

I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Our tanks are 80$ and it's STILL a massive bargain conpared to what it was.

A note on servitors -
IMO they were very good before for their ability to score/screen the backline for as cheap as possible & they will still be good even at 7 ppm.
They are infantry, they can do actions, 4 of them cost as much as a single melee weapon wielding intercessor sergeant - whats not to love?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I think it's looking more and more likely that the old marines are not going to stick around all of this edition and will probably be off to legends in a year or two

anybody who needs anything from the range had better get shopping as soon it's going to be Primeris as far as the eye can see

Honestly besides a random idea of greed I never got why GW didn't just outright upgrade marines into Primeris in one go. Like they did every time before. It seems really odd to have two model lines in the same army that are basically copy-catting each other.

It tooks 30 years to build that line. There is no way to upgrade and release it all overnight without seeming excessive. Hell, people complain the amount of models they got in 8th was excessive, I'd hate to see what the whole line dropping at once would do.

Yes but over that 30 year period we've had several generations of marine models released. Primaris are just the newest generation, only instead of swapping over models and calling them marines GW went the odd path of keeping both lines at once in the same army. So instead of replacing the old marine kit with the primaris and then steadily swapping things in and out (ergo your old marines they now count as primaris) they went for a duel release. So now you've an army of two parts that's sort of wanting to go with the newer, but at the same time wanting to keep the old. It's sort of stuck half way and feels messy.


That said I don't play marines so its a curiosity and oddness and my only worry is GW trying it with other forces (which I don't think is going to happen).

So did necrons get any token win in showoff or clean sweep for master faction?