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 Jidmah wrote:
That app is going to be so much fun when 60+ phones and tablets are trying to access it at a single event

It doesn’t require a live internet connection? I mean me accessing data stored on my phone doesn’t hinder you accessing data stored on your phone.

 kodos wrote:
if you by a Codex:
full unit Datasheets with Powerlevel, maybe with Codex Matched Play Points (if they are there), for the pruchased factions

if you buy CA:
latest Matched Play Points for all factions

I think having the wrong points if you don't get CA would be a mistake, and lead to confusion. I don't know how you would avoid it though.

 Jidmah wrote:
That app is going to be so much fun when 60+ phones and tablets are trying to access it at a single event

I have no idea why this would cause any problem. Except maybe if the app requires internet access and everyone is on the venue's wifi and that wifi is bad. But that's a lot of "if".

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
That app is going to be so much fun when 60+ phones and tablets are trying to access it at a single event

I have no idea why this would cause any problem. Except maybe if the app requires internet access and everyone is on the venue's wifi and that wifi is bad. But that's a lot of "if".

It's likely that it would need to access the internet to at least check your subscription. When having many mobile devices in one place, they tend to cause problems with limited access points. Unless a location is specifically set up to handle a large number of devices at once like a convention center or assembly hall, you will be having problems.

Of course, a good design could mitigate this, but GW wouldn't be the first ones to fail at this. Especially if they hired a contractor (likely) and didn't specifically define this use case.

edit: already discussed

 Trickstick wrote:

 kodos wrote:
if you by a Codex:
full unit Datasheets with Powerlevel, maybe with Codex Matched Play Points (if they are there), for the pruchased factions

if you buy CA:
latest Matched Play Points for all factions

I think having the wrong points if you don't get CA would be a mistake, and lead to confusion. I don't know how you would avoid it though.

it is the same if you just buy the printed Codex
only chance to avoid it would be if CA-Points are a free online pdf that is updated on a regular bases and there re no Matched Play Points in the Codex at all

than they are free for all, could be free with the App as well and are always up to date after a new Codex is sold and no misleading or outdated information

 Jidmah wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
That app is going to be so much fun when 60+ phones and tablets are trying to access it at a single event

I have no idea why this would cause any problem. Except maybe if the app requires internet access and everyone is on the venue's wifi and that wifi is bad. But that's a lot of "if".

It's likely that it would need to access the internet to at least check your subscription. When having many mobile devices in one place, they tend to cause problems with limited access points. Unless a location is specifically set up to handle a large number of devices at once like a convention center or assembly hall, you will be having problems.

Of course, a good design could mitigate this, but GW wouldn't be the first ones to fail at this. Especially if they hired a contractor (likely) and didn't specifically define this use case.

Des the AOS one have this issue ? Did AOS events experience such issues with the AOS app ? If not, then no need to worry about the 40k one right ? Same specs for the contractor (likely the same contractor used for the AOS app)

 Jidmah wrote:
It's likely that it would need to access the internet to at least check your subscription. When having many mobile devices in one place, they tend to cause problems with limited access points. Unless a location is specifically set up to handle a large number of devices at once like a convention center or assembly hall, you will be having problems.

Doesn't 4G/5G mobile network nullifies this kind of worries? Sure, the wifi may not be able to handle all the traffic, but the mobile network should do it just fine, no?

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

If its not on a web browser usable by a standard PC its no use to me - at all.

Looks forward for yet more time wasted as people try to peer at a tiny screen and can't find gak.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

If its not on a web browser usable by a standard PC its no use to me - at all.

Looks forward for yet more time wasted as people try to peer at a tiny screen and can't find gak.

By contrast I find having to carry a desktop, monitor, mouse, keyboard and multi-socket to every gaming table even harder work.

Dudeface wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

If its not on a web browser usable by a standard PC its no use to me - at all.

Looks forward for yet more time wasted as people try to peer at a tiny screen and can't find gak.

By contrast I find having to carry a desktop, monitor, mouse, keyboard and multi-socket to every gaming table even harder work.

If only someone could condense that all down into a format that would fit on top of your lap.

 Asmodai wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

If its not on a web browser usable by a standard PC its no use to me - at all.

Looks forward for yet more time wasted as people try to peer at a tiny screen and can't find gak.

By contrast I find having to carry a desktop, monitor, mouse, keyboard and multi-socket to every gaming table even harder work.

If only someone could condense that all down into a format that would fit on top of your lap.

Oh I know, bare minimum you'd need wifi for it, probably require a charge over the course of the day, and is not a "standard pc" never mind finding room for it on the table.

 Asmodai wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

If its not on a web browser usable by a standard PC its no use to me - at all.

Looks forward for yet more time wasted as people try to peer at a tiny screen and can't find gak.

By contrast I find having to carry a desktop, monitor, mouse, keyboard and multi-socket to every gaming table even harder work.

If only someone could condense that all down into a format that would fit on top of your lap.

What kind of far flung Jetsons’ century tech you babbling about?

If its on a PC I can print off a overview page which people can actually read and check it, along with the Codex I bring.

I don't own or want a non work phone, or wish to wait around as people mess about with it and try to show you stuff on a tiny screen.

 addnid wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
That app is going to be so much fun when 60+ phones and tablets are trying to access it at a single event

I have no idea why this would cause any problem. Except maybe if the app requires internet access and everyone is on the venue's wifi and that wifi is bad. But that's a lot of "if".

It's likely that it would need to access the internet to at least check your subscription. When having many mobile devices in one place, they tend to cause problems with limited access points. Unless a location is specifically set up to handle a large number of devices at once like a convention center or assembly hall, you will be having problems.

Of course, a good design could mitigate this, but GW wouldn't be the first ones to fail at this. Especially if they hired a contractor (likely) and didn't specifically define this use case.

Des the AOS one have this issue ? Did AOS events experience such issues with the AOS app ? If not, then no need to worry about the 40k one right ? Same specs for the contractor (likely the same contractor used for the AOS app)

No, 200 people use it at adepticon at the same time and it doesn't even slow down.


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 Mr Morden wrote:

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

If its not on a web browser usable by a standard PC its no use to me - at all.

Looks forward for yet more time wasted as people try to peer at a tiny screen and can't find gak.

You should tell your friends to go see an optometrist, because normal people can see a phone screen just fine.

 Mr Morden wrote:
If its on a PC I can print off a overview page which people can actually read and check it, along with the Codex I bring.

I don't own or want a non work phone.

I assume you'd be taking chapter approved as well + any other expansion books to ensure the points etc. were up to date?

Dudeface wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
If its on a PC I can print off a overview page which people can actually read and check it, along with the Codex I bring.

I don't own or want a non work phone.

I assume you'd be taking chapter approved as well + any other expansion books to ensure the points etc. were up to date?

Yes - why would I not? plus the printed FAQs - had enough bad expereinces with people claiming BS or misreading things on phones - and yeah its on here somewhere. I sometimes bring the codex for my opponents army as well.

 Mr Morden wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
If its on a PC I can print off a overview page which people can actually read and check it, along with the Codex I bring.

I don't own or want a non work phone.

I assume you'd be taking chapter approved as well + any other expansion books to ensure the points etc. were up to date?

Yes - why would I not? plus the printed FAQs

Then I applaud you and all is right with the world.

 Mr Morden wrote:
If its on a PC I can print off a overview page which people can actually read and check it, along with the Codex I bring.

I don't own or want a non work phone, or wish to wait around as people mess about with it and try to show you stuff on a tiny screen.

That's stupid. You'd rather faff about with a bunch of random sheets of paper with information scattered about haphazardly, flapping in the wind than just look it up on a screen designed for you to look stuff up on? It's not technology that's the problem. It's you, guy who still prints off his mapquests for some reason

ERJAK wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
If its on a PC I can print off a overview page which people can actually read and check it, along with the Codex I bring.

I don't own or want a non work phone, or wish to wait around as people mess about with it and try to show you stuff on a tiny screen.

That's stupid. You'd rather faff about with a bunch of random sheets of paper with information scattered about haphazardly, flapping in the wind than just look it up on a screen designed for you to look stuff up on? It's not technology that's the problem. It's you, guy who still prints off his mapquests for some reason

Odd - its always the guy at our games pissing about with his phone who can't find gak

What is a mapquest?

Thats my local FLGS informing us that after the stuff he has ordered for his shop that will go on pre order on saturday morning, he can add no more to the order.

All third party stockists are now completely closed to any further allocations of the Indomitus box.

This is going to be scalpers paradise all over again. What is GW's hard on for FOMO style ltd runs of what is essentialy the starter set everyone wants and no news about what the ACTUAL starter set is going to be for 9th.

So its sat at my PC 9:50 am and spam F5 and hope my 8 month old doesnt have a meltdown and needs both me and my wifes attention at that exact moment.

 Mr Morden wrote:
What is a mapquest?

Mapquest is a pre-Google maps website where you'd put in a departure and destination, and it would give you a list of directions to print out for you to reach that destination. "Go 400 yards then turn left. Take the I45 for 4 miles", etc.

One problem with the app: no way would I hand my phone over to a random opponent to look at something. Small problem I know, but I have no problem giving books to people.

Yeaaa people who think scrolling through endless 4" screens is faster than flipping paper pages have never timed it.

 Mr Morden wrote:


What is a mapquest?

It's official. I'm old

 EnTyme wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:


What is a mapquest?

It's official. I'm old

Cheer yourself up with a game of MindMaze.

iPad or iPad mini size tablets are the easiest way to carry all 50x books needed for your army.

If this app gives you an army list with hyperlinks to each units Up to date datasheet then it’s already better then battle scribe.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yeaaa people who think scrolling through endless 4" screens is faster than flipping paper pages have never timed it.

Yeah when I first got back into Warhammer in 7th edition, I decided I’d get the digital codexes to save carrying books everywhere. But the amount of time it took to find a rule in one book, close it, open another, find a relevant unit etc was ridiculous. If the app manages to speed this up I will be tempted by it though, simply to save on lugging books everywhere.

I just prefer printed rules myself.

For useful things in a given book, I can use sticky labels to create semi-permanent bookmarks, annotated for each section.

That’s not to say there anything wrong with digital rules, they’re just not really for little old me.

FAQs and stuff? Well, they’re typically only a few pages, so happy to have digital copies of those on my iPad. And if/when I get to the level where I wouldn’t be a drag to play in a tournament? I can actually go and download the very latest FAQ there and then, for both my opponent and I’s convenience.

 Jidmah wrote:
That app is going to be so much fun when 60+ phones and tablets are trying to access it at a single event

It shouldnt pose any problem. For their servers were the connections come from doesnt make any difference. The only thing is the broadband of where the event is taking place, and GW can do zilch about that.