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Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

Not likely. I've been on the fence about getting a tablet again for ebooks and if the app is halfway decent I'll likely make the plunge.

 Eldarain wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
If the App doesn't include points, it won't sell. What would be the point of it if it doesn't have points? What would anyone use it for?

quick looking up datasheets. It's amazingly faster than thumbing through the book for AoS.

Also, sell? Sell for what? The AoS app is free.

I thought there was a subscription fee. Something like $2 a month. Is that incorrect?

If you want points and the list builder yeah. $1 something.

That's what I thought. Does it work well on android devices? I've heard that the gw ebooks are optimized for iOS and don't work well with android. Is the AoS app the same?

AoS app runs perfectly fine on Android. The only difference is I've heard the list builder sub is $.50 USD cheaper through Apple.

 Platuan4th wrote:
AoS app runs perfectly fine on Android. The only difference is I've heard the list builder sub is $.50 USD cheaper through Apple.

Excellent. Thanks for the info.

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

nope.

I'll wait for Battlescribe to get updated with a 9th Ed datafile set.

In the meantime, I know how to use Excel.

I think a lot of people are going to be subscribing for a month then dropping it once Battlescribe gets updated.

It all depends on the quality of the app. if I can just click on the unit in my list and pull up an up to date dataslate for that unit. That convenience is well worth using the GW app. And battkescribe can’t legally do that.

But we honestly got nothing to go on and GW more to come later preview of it never came... sooo

yukishiro1 wrote:
I think a lot of people are going to be subscribing for a month then dropping it once Battlescribe gets updated.

Digital copies of the rules with updates for FAQs would be a good reason to keep it. Especially with the "free digital copy with hardcopy purcharse" thing they said they'll be doing for 9th.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

yukishiro1 wrote:
I think a lot of people are going to be subscribing for a month then dropping it once Battlescribe gets updated.

Digital copies of the rules with updates for FAQs would be a good reason to keep it. Especially with the "free digital copy with hardcopy purcharse" thing they said they'll be doing for 9th.

As far as I'm aware, you don't need the subscription for that though. Isn't the subscription is just for the list builder?

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

yukishiro1 wrote:
I think a lot of people are going to be subscribing for a month then dropping it once Battlescribe gets updated.

Digital copies of the rules with updates for FAQs would be a good reason to keep it. Especially with the "free digital copy with hardcopy purcharse" thing they said they'll be doing for 9th.

As far as I'm aware, you don't need the subscription for that though. Isn't the subscription is just for the list builder?

It might be, and if it's easier to use than Battlescribe I'll gladly pay a buck a month.

Is Battlescribe hard to use?

No, gotta admit it's a big buggy and unresponsive sometimes, though.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is Battlescribe hard to use?

I hate using on my phone. It's okay on PC.

ERJAK wrote:

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

nope.

That's a shame if it's the case. That alone would probably make me stick to Battlescribe.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I hate using on my phone. It's okay on PC.

Ah I see. I've never used it on phone... nor would I, come to think about it.

It's fine on PC though.

I’ve been using Battlescribe without issue on my phone.

 -Loki- wrote:
I’ve been using Battlescribe without issue on my phone.

I'm not saying it doesn't work. I'm saying I don't enjoy using it. It feels clunky on a mobile device.

I tried using BattleScribe on my phone a couple times but couldn’t figure out how it worked. Tend to pen and paper my lists instead. I’m looking forward to the 40k app because I do quite like the AoS one.

I own every book needed for my armies.

However, I exclusively use BattleScribe on iPad and Android for list building, and I pay for premium to support the coder.

If the official Warhammer app does what the hype suggests, I’ll probably be switching.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
I’ve been using Battlescribe without issue on my phone.

I'm not saying it doesn't work. I'm saying I don't enjoy using it. It feels clunky on a mobile device.

Exactly this. Trying to make a list from scratch on my phone is an exercise in tedium and frustration - so many clicks and sub-menus to sort out equipment and all the various options, many of which are really counter-intuitively set up. It's great once you have your list as you can easily reference everything you need, and modifying lists is pretty simple but the initial set up is a huge hassle. It'll be interesting to see if GW manage to create a useable app. My gut says no.

I don't own a smartphone / tablet and have no use for one. An app I can't use on my laptop might as well not exist.

 Duskweaver wrote:
I don't own a smartphone / tablet and have no use for one. An app I can't use on my laptop might as well not exist.

That would make you a niche that is not worth developing an app for. In this age not having a phone or tablet is the exception, and tends to be ignored by most companies, as every additional platform to support with an app costs tons of money.

 Platuan4th wrote:
AoS app runs perfectly fine on Android. The only difference is I've heard the list builder sub is $.50 USD cheaper through Apple.

Prices might not be same though. 40k is gw's cash cow. Seeing they mention buying codex gives digital codex expect to have to pay codex price to unlock one army. Then wouldn't surprise army builder to be 5 pounds as minimum per month.

Well if app is good could still be worth it. We'll see. As long as you don't need app to play fine.

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
Is it possible to use the app in a normal web browser? Trying to build army lists on my phone sounds like a hassle.

There are things like BlueStacks for PCs that will emulate a phone.
I have not tried to run the AoS app through that yet, but it might get the phone app onto your PC.

The AoS app gives you everything the GW store page gives you, namely the unit cards. To get the points, you sign up to Ayr, which is 99p through Google.
I have whinged at GW a few times about having to buy their books 3 times. Once is hardback (I wanted paperback), ePub for the PC, and also on the app. The app purchase unlocks sections of the contents, like scenarios and such from the battletome. None of the answers have been of any use.
But, if a physical book unlocks digital access, we'll see how that goes.

I expect the 40k app gets you the unit datacards, but not the points, until you buy the Chapter Approved.

tneva82 wrote:
As long as you don't need app to play fine.

FFG messed up with X-Wing by doing that. They have trouble keeping the app updated, and left out huge ships and epic play when they arrived. Also, it is online-only, with no offline mode. Not good in a tourament location with no phone signal or Wifi.

I have fairly good hopes for the 40k app. It just need to be as good as the AoS one. I doubt it’ll cost more, it’d already Make more just from having a larger player base. Definitely hype for details though.

I can see people sticking with the app due to the fact that it'll update at the same time as the books. Battlescribe usually has some lag, espcially around big releases like chapter approved. Sure, it's usually only a few days but for people for whom the cost is negligiable it may be good.

I usually just memorise the points after like a month of list building though, and use paper and pen.

That app is going to be so much fun when 60+ phones and tablets are trying to access it at a single event

what I expect from the App:

Default:
simplified (as shown in the rulebook) unit Datasheets with Powerlevel for all factions

if you by a Codex:
full unit Datasheets with Powerlevel, maybe with Codex Matched Play Points (if they are there), for the pruchased factions

if you buy CA:
latest Matched Play Points for all factions

a monthly fee:
latest Matched Play Points for all factions