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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
yup this was just posted on FB

Kirton Games - Wargames and Hobby superstore
37 mins ·
Hello everyone! We have just heard from Games Workshop that Indomitus has sold out to pre-order. This means we will now be closing our Expression of Interest scheme. If you emailed us, we secured you stock and you should have received an email from us with the details on the next steps. We will still have a few on general sale for pre-order this Saturday but they will be first come first served. Thanks for the support! This is a popular set!

so you might get lucky of your store of choice have spare, but if they don't you're going to be scrambling if you want it

So much for "We’ve made a lot of it (like, really, a lot)" lol

If its limited edition it should be restricted to 1 per-customer otherwise the scalpers are going to have a field day with this, Outpost are letting people order as many as they want which wont be helping matters

so it's sold out before the pre-order? So this is a pre-order of the pre-order? Sounds a bit weird.

I think they're saying that local stores are selling out of their pre-order allocation.

Shops received allocations of what they could order, from what I understand. Shops were taking lists of names for folks to hold boxsets. One of my local shops received an allocation of 55 boxsets and taking names to hold for purchase, as an example.

It's a bit out of order for stores to be taking pre orders of something which isn't meant to be up for pre order yet. Stores shouldn't be offering them to anyone yet.

That said I'm sure GW have plenty in their own stock.

We’re looking at 30 for our allocation here. Last I knew we were at ~18 preorders.

 Original Timmy wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
yup this was just posted on FB

Kirton Games - Wargames and Hobby superstore
37 mins ·
Hello everyone! We have just heard from Games Workshop that Indomitus has sold out to pre-order. This means we will now be closing our Expression of Interest scheme. If you emailed us, we secured you stock and you should have received an email from us with the details on the next steps. We will still have a few on general sale for pre-order this Saturday but they will be first come first served. Thanks for the support! This is a popular set!

so you might get lucky of your store of choice have spare, but if they don't you're going to be scrambling if you want it

So much for "We’ve made a lot of it (like, really, a lot)" lol

If its limited edition it should be restricted to 1 per-customer otherwise the scalpers are going to have a field day with this, Outpost are letting people order as many as they want which wont be helping matters

Stores really went nuts with their preorders on this too. My FLGS ordered 45 (for a community of maybe 20 people), I've hears others report similar numbers with on person say their FLGS put in for 300-600 of the box.

I have a feeling that we're going to see some stores parting these boxes out to help resell online to make up for being shut down this year.

Necronmaniac05 wrote:
It's a bit out of order for stores to be taking pre orders of something which isn't meant to be up for pre order yet. Stores shouldn't be offering them to anyone yet.

That said I'm sure GW have plenty in their own stock.

Eh stores have done this for years, the manager knows he's getting the box; the customers know so the loyal regular customers (ergo the mangers bread and butter customers) are simply saying. "Hey Bob put aside a box for me so I can order it on the day." And Bob will say "Sure" and puts a box aside for the pre-order date. Sometimes there will be conditions, eg they have to buy the box on the day or it goes back into the general pool which can be why some stores appear to have no stock and then suddenly get a few boxes the next day. Because even loyal customers will sometimes forget, not commit or will hedge their bets and have 5 pre-orders made at different stores like that so that on the day they get one and cancel the rest etc...

Necronmaniac05 wrote:
It's a bit out of order for stores to be taking pre orders of something which isn't meant to be up for pre order yet. Stores shouldn't be offering them to anyone yet.

Any more made up laws you got to share?

Stores are taking care of their regulars by asking if we want the thing before it sells out at 0:01 on preorder day.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

I have a feeling that we're going to see some stores parting these boxes out to help resell online to make up for being shut down this year.

Far as I recall their contract with GW forbids them from doing this. That said many have likely experimented with online ordering and something as high profile as this is worth getting because even if you normally only net your locals online, this box will attract major national attention. So they can potentially shift more than normal if they get it.

Hmm... I'm ordering all the copies for my friends. I do hope my store can do 6 copies...

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Stores really went nuts with their preorders on this too. My FLGS ordered 45 (for a community of maybe 20 people).

That isn't unusual. I've found over the years that the FLGS 'community' is significantly smaller than the number of people who come in for what they want and leave.

I remember a few times when game days and release days overlapped and there was always a steady trickle of people who never came further into the store than the cash register, but the number of boxes behind the counter steadily decreased. (and often _didn't_ decrease with the number of people playing games of warhammer/40k/warmachine in the back of the store. They somehow found reasons to go online looking for bigger discounts).

 lord_blackfang wrote:

changemod wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
I've been yoyoing about getting Indomitus or not over the past few weeks. When the price was confirmed I thought "sure why not?". But If the set is going to be so limited I'm leaning more towards "I cant really be bothered with this nonsense".

What is the price again? I've only seen it's foreign market price so far and that was about a week ago.

120 quid for britpeeps and if you haven't reserved a copy yet you're probably looking at full price through GW, if you're lucky.

I mean, I know of no means by which I could have done such a reservation. The only two non-GW sites I've used have their preorders go up at the same time, and at the moment triple helix are doing some weird email only setup where you can't even browse their store.

 Overread wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

I have a feeling that we're going to see some stores parting these boxes out to help resell online to make up for being shut down this year.

Far as I recall their contract with GW forbids them from doing this. That said many have likely experimented with online ordering and something as high profile as this is worth getting because even if you normally only net your locals online, this box will attract major national attention. So they can potentially shift more than normal if they get it.

From what I understand from the store owners I know,, their contract prevents them from selling it early. As long as no cash is changing hands, it's not breaking contract. I'm sure one of the several store owners here on the site can clarify better.

I'm just expecting some backdoor scalping of the contents to increase revenue is all.

Necronmaniac05 wrote:
It's a bit out of order for stores to be taking pre orders of something which isn't meant to be up for pre order yet. Stores shouldn't be offering them to anyone yet.

That said I'm sure GW have plenty in their own stock.

Is this first time seeing any retail product up for preorder? This happens with everything, not just GW products. It’s called betting on the hype.

I just want the points updates lol Money burning a hole in my pocket and I couldn't give a damn about Necrons or (more) marines.

A better storyline would have been Eldar vs Necrons, that's an old school conflict that would certainly justify finally updating their decrepit line of models.

The wait is killing me lol

Octovol wrote:
I just want the points updates lol Money burning a hole in my pocket and I couldn't give a damn about Necrons or (more) marines.

A better storyline would have been Eldar vs Necrons, that's an old school conflict that would certainly justify finally updating their decrepit line of models.

The wait is killing me lol

App should be out on Sat with new points.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
App should be out on Sat with new points.

How much of that has been properly confirmed? I'm half expecting some sort of half-release of the app, with all the 9th ed stuff coming at true release. Is there a quote that points will be out on sat, or is it conjecture?

They claimed it would be, but we haven't seen or heard anything since that announcement, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's a kink in the machinery.

On the same day that the Warhammer 40,000 pre-orders go live, a new app will be launched alongside it, providing several cool features to help you, including a full matched play army builder. The new app will do a number of things to assist players with their games, but one of the most useful will be the ability to build army lists using the updated points values and Detachments. We’ll have more on the Warhammer 40,000 app soon, so watch this space!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/03/warhammer-40000-matched-play-points-and-an-appgw-homepage-post-1/

Keep in mind this was over a month ago, and we have not seen "more."

yukishiro1 wrote:
They claimed it would be, but we haven't seen or heard anything since that announcement, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's a kink in the machinery.

On the same day that the Warhammer 40,000 pre-orders go live, a new app will be launched alongside it, providing several cool features to help you, including a full matched play army builder. The new app will do a number of things to assist players with their games, but one of the most useful will be the ability to build army lists using the updated points values and Detachments. We’ll have more on the Warhammer 40,000 app soon, so watch this space!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/03/warhammer-40000-matched-play-points-and-an-appgw-homepage-post-1/

Keep in mind this was over a month ago.

You know, I am very cynical when it comes to press releases. That one has just enough wiggle room for points to not be released. Yeah, the app launches on the day of pre-order. Yeah, the app can do things like army lists and points. However, they don't _specifically_ say it'll do it on launch.

I know that reading could, and maybe is likely to be, wrong. However, I like to view press releases as only stating what they _explicity_ state, which I have found often ends up being correct.

If the App doesn't include points, it won't sell. What would be the point of it if it doesn't have points? What would anyone use it for?

I fully expect a delayed app release.. the fact it hasn’t been mentioned or previewed with all the barely there hype previews means something it up.

gungo wrote:
I fully expect a delayed app release.. the fact it hasn’t been mentioned or previewed with all the barely there hype previews means something it up.

I would have thought it would get a big preview this week. I doubt it will drop with no marketing push.

The fact that we were supposed to see "more soon" and it's been more than a month strongly suggests it's behind schedule.

gungo wrote:
I fully expect a delayed app release.. the fact it hasn’t been mentioned or previewed with all the barely there hype previews means something it up.

Yes, it means that the entirety of the core rulebook got leaked last week.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
If the App doesn't include points, it won't sell. What would be the point of it if it doesn't have points? What would anyone use it for?

quick looking up datasheets. It's amazingly faster than thumbing through the book for AoS.

Also, sell? Sell for what? The AoS app is free.

ERJAK wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
If the App doesn't include points, it won't sell. What would be the point of it if it doesn't have points? What would anyone use it for?

quick looking up datasheets. It's amazingly faster than thumbing through the book for AoS.

Also, sell? Sell for what? The AoS app is free.

I thought there was a subscription fee. Something like $2 a month. Is that incorrect?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
If the App doesn't include points, it won't sell. What would be the point of it if it doesn't have points? What would anyone use it for?

quick looking up datasheets. It's amazingly faster than thumbing through the book for AoS.

Also, sell? Sell for what? The AoS app is free.

I thought there was a subscription fee. Something like $2 a month. Is that incorrect?

If you want points and the list builder yeah. $1 something.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
If the App doesn't include points, it won't sell. What would be the point of it if it doesn't have points? What would anyone use it for?

quick looking up datasheets. It's amazingly faster than thumbing through the book for AoS.

Also, sell? Sell for what? The AoS app is free.

I thought there was a subscription fee. Something like $2 a month. Is that incorrect?

If you want the army builder. The base app is free. The caveat is that you only get points if you either have the subscription or if you buy the General's handbook through the app itself. Considering the books are significantly cheaper on the app, it works out well more often than not.