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Pyrosphere wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Also yes, EG, if there is just E even my swiss german german would be wierded out.

I have seen both here. E or EG (same for U and UG) but also 0. Mostly in shopping malls when there is more than one basement level. In that case the numbers for the basements simply become negative.


Meanwhile on Dakka, the lowest level of a thread is marked instead by several pages of posts about 2++ invulns.
   
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 xttz wrote:
Pyrosphere wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Also yes, EG, if there is just E even my swiss german german would be wierded out.

I have seen both here. E or EG (same for U and UG) but also 0. Mostly in shopping malls when there is more than one basement level. In that case the numbers for the basements simply become negative.


Meanwhile on Dakka, the lowest level of a thread is marked instead by several pages of posts about 2++ invulns.


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 xttz wrote:
Pyrosphere wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Also yes, EG, if there is just E even my swiss german german would be wierded out.

I have seen both here. E or EG (same for U and UG) but also 0. Mostly in shopping malls when there is more than one basement level. In that case the numbers for the basements simply become negative.


Meanwhile on Dakka, the lowest level of a thread is marked instead by several pages of posts about 2++ invulns.


Well played
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Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
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 xttz wrote:
Pyrosphere wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Also yes, EG, if there is just E even my swiss german german would be wierded out.

I have seen both here. E or EG (same for U and UG) but also 0. Mostly in shopping malls when there is more than one basement level. In that case the numbers for the basements simply become negative.


Meanwhile on Dakka, the lowest level of a thread is marked instead by several pages of posts about 2++ invulns.


I thought the lowest level was pages of nothing but complaining what Marines do/don’t get in every single thread
   
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Can't y'all stop talking about elevators and start attacking one another for liking or not liking GW products? I started to think I was somewhere else for a minute!
   
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yukishiro1 wrote:
Can't y'all stop talking about elevators and start attacking one another for liking or not liking GW products? I started to think I was somewhere else for a minute!


What's there to attack other people for, heck the lower pts bracket is veryfiably memeworthy now, to the point even dakka unified...

Others are depressed because their armies got wholesale squatted.

And others wonder why a stompa is going UP.



https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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It's very clear why the Stompa had to go up in Points.

GW was obviously enjoying the #prayforstompa

They couldn't risk it accidentally becoming playable
   
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Not Online!!! wrote:
yukishiro1 wrote:
Can't y'all stop talking about elevators and start attacking one another for liking or not liking GW products? I started to think I was somewhere else for a minute!


What's there to attack other people for, heck the lower pts bracket is veryfiably memeworthy now, to the point even dakka unified...

Spoiler:
Others are depressed because their armies got wholesale squatted.

And others wonder why a stompa is going UP.




and that is saying something

still you get the odd: "marines are ok because something...something... internal balance"
or the extra elitist one: "now that we have the rules, the points and the FAQs we still cant conclude anything because we need more games to confirm stuff"


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Ice_can wrote:
It's very clear why the Stompa had to go up in Points.

GW was obviously enjoying the #prayforstompa

They couldn't risk it accidentally becoming playable


Heck i dont even want them to balance the stupid thing... i just dont wanna auto-loose because i took a stompa

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2020/07/14 15:53:26


 
   
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Hey, GW were gracious enough to keep the stompa at 905/915 points. That means you can legally put it into your reinforcements since it's less than half your army -and- it'll only cost you 5CP to do so!
   
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At least would mean you still have it on turn 2...

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PiñaColada wrote:
Hey, GW were gracious enough to keep the stompa at 905/915 points. That means you can legally put it into your reinforcements since it's less than half your army -and- it'll only cost you 5CP to do so!


Meanwhile the imperial castellan is at 630pts laughing at the stompa....
I don’t want to sound crazy it’s almost like GW has this inherent imperial bias...
Like somehow
Marines
Custodes
Astra militarum
Ad mech

Heck to a degree knights (imperial only) as well
All got better and most other armies got curb stomped...
I play guard too so It’s likely just shelve those orks for Guard this edition or until a new codex drops.
But guard have the cheapest strongest troops and thier special weapons all dropped in price, thier artillery is better overall and they aren’t even the strongest army this edition. A nice soup filler still though. Can’t wait to see all those improved FW goodies for guard, marines and custodes...

(Necrons should be fine especially after the first 9th Ed codex drops With some extra extra rules for them tacked on)

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2020/07/14 16:08:45


 
   
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Not Online!!! wrote:
yukishiro1 wrote:
Can't y'all stop talking about elevators and start attacking one another for liking or not liking GW products? I started to think I was somewhere else for a minute!


What's there to attack other people for, heck the lower pts bracket is veryfiably memeworthy now, to the point even dakka unified...

Others are depressed because their armies got wholesale squatted.

And others wonder why a stompa is going UP.




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gungo wrote:
PiñaColada wrote:
Hey, GW were gracious enough to keep the stompa at 905/915 points. That means you can legally put it into your reinforcements since it's less than half your army -and- it'll only cost you 5CP to do so!


Meanwhile the imperial castellan is at 630pts laughing at the stompa....
I don’t want to sound crazy it’s almost like GW has this inherent imperial bias...
Like somehow
Marines
Custodes
Astra militarum
Ad mech

Heck to a degree knights (imperial only) as well
All got better and most other armies got curb stomped...
I play guard too so It’s likely just shelve those orks for Guard this edition or until a new codex drops.
But guard have the cheapest strongest troops and thier special weapons all dropped in price, thier artillery is better overall and they aren’t even the strongest army this edition. A nice soup filler still though. Can’t wait to see all those improved FW goodies for guard, marines and custodes...

(Necrons should be fine especially after the first 9th Ed codex drops With some extra extra rules for them tacked on)

I'm 99% sure thats a typo all be it a massive one but still a typo as aint nobody wanting 600 point castellen in the game.
   
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 zend wrote:
 xttz wrote:
Pyrosphere wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Also yes, EG, if there is just E even my swiss german german would be wierded out.

I have seen both here. E or EG (same for U and UG) but also 0. Mostly in shopping malls when there is more than one basement level. In that case the numbers for the basements simply become negative.


Meanwhile on Dakka, the lowest level of a thread is marked instead by several pages of posts about 2++ invulns.


I thought the lowest level was pages of nothing but complaining what Marines do/don’t get in every single thread


Like a 2++ armor save?

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 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
yukishiro1 wrote:
Can't y'all stop talking about elevators and start attacking one another for liking or not liking GW products? I started to think I was somewhere else for a minute!


What's there to attack other people for, heck the lower pts bracket is veryfiably memeworthy now, to the point even dakka unified...

Others are depressed because their armies got wholesale squatted.

And others wonder why a stompa is going UP.




Cultists are 6.


that's part of the joke

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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PiñaColada wrote:
Hey, GW were gracious enough to keep the stompa at 905/915 points. That means you can legally put it into your reinforcements since it's less than half your army -and- it'll only cost you 5CP to do so!

905 points you say? So with its massive 37 point buff bringing it to 880 with wargear my Fellblade is officially cheaper than a Stompa? Booyah. Anybody got a Stompa? Let's fight em.
   
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
PiñaColada wrote:
Hey, GW were gracious enough to keep the stompa at 905/915 points. That means you can legally put it into your reinforcements since it's less than half your army -and- it'll only cost you 5CP to do so!

905 points you say? So with its massive 37 point buff bringing it to 880 with wargear my Fellblade is officially cheaper than a Stompa? Booyah. Anybody got a Stompa? Let's fight em.

Oh yeah, you'll probably find them used as doorstops or garden gnomes all over the world, 'cause they sure ain't on anyone's gaming table.
   
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I'm hoping for the stompa kit to get a couple sprues added for more weapon and head options, and a rework of the datasheet. Maybe next time orks get a model pass.
   
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 xttz wrote:
Meanwhile on Dakka, the lowest level of a thread is marked instead by several pages of posts about 2++ invulns.


Nah, you would need to have it on a FW unit, so you could throw in a Forgeworld legality discusion too.

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 Sherrypie wrote:
IanVanCheese wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
I don't know if anyone else caught it, but with Engagement Range including a 5" vertical, Chaos/Imperial Knights can now kick Infantry hanging out on the second (and possibly third) floor of buildings.


Aaaaaaand now I’m imaging a Titan roundhouse kicking a building.


Running two footed kick through the window.


Never forget, this is what titan fights are about



The ugliness of those old imperial armor cast titans...to quote Cador from Helsreach, "Let me end it, it's existence offends me"


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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I'm hoping for the stompa kit to get a couple sprues added for more weapon and head options, and a rework of the datasheet. Maybe next time orks get a model pass.


Dude, you're going to enjoy the Ork update in 2033 then.


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Ice_can wrote:
gungo wrote:
PiñaColada wrote:
Hey, GW were gracious enough to keep the stompa at 905/915 points. That means you can legally put it into your reinforcements since it's less than half your army -and- it'll only cost you 5CP to do so!


Meanwhile the imperial castellan is at 630pts laughing at the stompa....
I don’t want to sound crazy it’s almost like GW has this inherent imperial bias...
Like somehow
Marines
Custodes
Astra militarum
Ad mech

Heck to a degree knights (imperial only) as well
All got better and most other armies got curb stomped...
I play guard too so It’s likely just shelve those orks for Guard this edition or until a new codex drops.
But guard have the cheapest strongest troops and thier special weapons all dropped in price, thier artillery is better overall and they aren’t even the strongest army this edition. A nice soup filler still though. Can’t wait to see all those improved FW goodies for guard, marines and custodes...

(Necrons should be fine especially after the first 9th Ed codex drops With some extra extra rules for them tacked on)

I'm 99% sure thats a typo all be it a massive one but still a typo as aint nobody wanting 600 point castellen in the game.


Wasn't the points decided by independent play testers? If so, what's GW got to do with it?

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Rather decent of them to do the print-on-demand. It seemed a bit strange when there was no "Coming Soon" on Sunday.

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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Play testers presumably had some input but we have no way of knowing the level that they contributed, or whether GW even took their advice. At the end of the day that doesn't matter. The buck stops with GW.

   
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 Togusa wrote:

The ugliness of those old imperial armor cast titans...to quote Cador from Helsreach, "Let me end it, it's existence offends me"


you know that armor cast created them off the artwork from GW and not the other way around


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 Togusa wrote:

Wasn't the points decided by independent play testers? If so, what's GW got to do with it?

as far as we know playtesters had nothing to do with matched play points at all

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/07/14 19:08:46


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Quick question for people here.

Where is the best place to find the rules you need to play a few test games?
There has been such an info dump recently that search is almost impossible.

I have core rules (GW) and FAQs.
I also have new points.

I don't have new missions, with secondary scoring etc. Nor do I have new terrain rules etc.

Best single place to locate these?

cheers
   
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 bullyboy wrote:
Quick question for people here.

Where is the best place to find the rules you need to play a few test games?
There has been such an info dump recently that search is almost impossible.

I have core rules (GW) and FAQs.
I also have new points.

I don't have new missions, with secondary scoring etc. Nor do I have new terrain rules etc.

Best single place to locate these?

cheers


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It's literally in the title of the thread

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Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
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 Daedalus81 wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
Quick question for people here.

Where is the best place to find the rules you need to play a few test games?
There has been such an info dump recently that search is almost impossible.

I have core rules (GW) and FAQs.
I also have new points.

I don't have new missions, with secondary scoring etc. Nor do I have new terrain rules etc.

Best single place to locate these?

cheers


I'll send you a PM.


cheers!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Jidmah wrote:
It's literally in the title of the thread


except it isn't, it's spread all over the place.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/07/14 19:18:23


 
   
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 Togusa wrote:

Ice_can wrote:
gungo wrote:
PiñaColada wrote:
Hey, GW were gracious enough to keep the stompa at 905/915 points. That means you can legally put it into your reinforcements since it's less than half your army -and- it'll only cost you 5CP to do so!


Meanwhile the imperial castellan is at 630pts laughing at the stompa....
I don’t want to sound crazy it’s almost like GW has this inherent imperial bias...
Like somehow
Marines
Custodes
Astra militarum
Ad mech

Heck to a degree knights (imperial only) as well
All got better and most other armies got curb stomped...
I play guard too so It’s likely just shelve those orks for Guard this edition or until a new codex drops.
But guard have the cheapest strongest troops and thier special weapons all dropped in price, thier artillery is better overall and they aren’t even the strongest army this edition. A nice soup filler still though. Can’t wait to see all those improved FW goodies for guard, marines and custodes...

(Necrons should be fine especially after the first 9th Ed codex drops With some extra extra rules for them tacked on)

I'm 99% sure thats a typo all be it a massive one but still a typo as aint nobody wanting 600 point castellen in the game.


Wasn't the points decided by independent play testers? If so, what's GW got to do with it?

It's more the Chassis cost is the same choas to imperial however Choas has to pay for weapons while the Imperial one has weapons listed at 0 points. All the strategums and relics still exsist for the old raven castellen even GW can't be dumb enough to reintroduce that. Surely?
   
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Considering GW just yeeted 2 armies without any announcement whatsoever.
created 120 pts melta squads that gain access trhough a common reserve stratagem to deepstrike, and internally shanking AT balance of SM (not to mention external....)
Hiked the price of the stompa for reasons only God knows.
Proceded to price Brimstones, conscripts, Grots at 5 pts with the infantry squad?

and you are wondering if they would reintroduce it?

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
 
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