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I love the extra weapon options/variants for the skorpekhs. It's great that we're finally getting a variety!

Did anyone notice that the large destroyer with the huge gun (bottom left corner) looks like it might have 3 arms? One appears to be near the ankh on the chest piece while the other is further towards the fron of the gun and looks like its attached to the gun

I'm wondering if the gun may be some kind of enmitic annihilator variation rather than a gauss weapon. The caption may indicate otherwise though.

Edited for spelling

punisher357 wrote:
I love the extra weapon options/variants for the skorpekhs. It's great that we're finally getting a variety!

Did anyone notice that the large destroyer with the huge gun (bottom left corner) looks like it might have 3 arms? One appears to be near the ankh on the chest piece while the other is further towards the fron of the gun and looks like its attached to the gun

I'm wondering if the gun may be some kind of enmitic annihilator variation rather than a gauss weapon. The caption may indicate otherwise though.

Edited for spelling

Yeah I noticed that, probably doubling down on the lore for destroyers with the whole thing of " shaping their bodies to better hunt the living" or something like that.
I doubt it'll be anything but gauss but they might have a enmitic weapon option, I'm hoping that destroyers come with a weapon option with more shots but lower strength for anti infantry as it makes sense since they would realise just how inefficient a cannon is for killing say massed guardsman

What abot the Canoptek Plasmacyte, has there been any ideas on what that might be? A scarab with a gun? And why is he together with the Skorpekhs?

The other weapons need to be much better or much cheaper to be real options agaisnt that monster of a weapon they previewed.

torblind wrote:
What abot the Canoptek Plasmacyte, has there been any ideas on what that might be? A scarab with a gun? And why is he together with the Skorpekhs?

I wonder if this might be a bit of a clue?

Definition of Plasmacyte wrote:an antibody-secreting cell, derived from B cells, that plays a major role in antibody-mediated immunity.

Plasmacytes being a kind of an 'immune system' for a Tomb World's defenders against Psykers would open up some interesting opportunities.

 Kanluwen wrote:

torblind wrote:
What abot the Canoptek Plasmacyte, has there been any ideas on what that might be? A scarab with a gun? And why is he together with the Skorpekhs?

I wonder if this might be a bit of a clue?

Definition of Plasmacyte wrote:an antibody-secreting cell, derived from B cells, that plays a major role in antibody-mediated immunity.

Plasmacytes being a kind of an 'immune system' for a Tomb World's defenders against Psykers would open up some interesting opportunities.

I like this idea

punisher357 wrote:
I love the extra weapon options/variants for the skorpekhs. It's great that we're finally getting a variety!

Did anyone notice that the large destroyer with the huge gun (bottom left corner) looks like it might have 3 arms? One appears to be near the ankh on the chest piece while the other is further towards the fron of the gun and looks like its attached to the gun

I'm wondering if the gun may be some kind of enmitic annihilator variation rather than a gauss weapon. The caption may indicate otherwise though.

Edited for spelling

Looking at it it does have 3 arms, good catch! I think the enmitic annihilator was that huge blade the Lord had, could be wrong though. I agree that it does look like another class of guass though, different from the current aesthetic for sure

 Kanluwen wrote:

torblind wrote:
What abot the Canoptek Plasmacyte, has there been any ideas on what that might be? A scarab with a gun? And why is he together with the Skorpekhs?

I wonder if this might be a bit of a clue?

Definition of Plasmacyte wrote:an antibody-secreting cell, derived from B cells, that plays a major role in antibody-mediated immunity.

Plasmacytes being a kind of an 'immune system' for a Tomb World's defenders against Psykers would open up some interesting opportunities.

Ooh that's a good thought. I thought plasmacyte sounded familiar.


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punisher357 wrote:
I love the extra weapon options/variants for the skorpekhs. It's great that we're finally getting a variety!

Did anyone notice that the large destroyer with the huge gun (bottom left corner) looks like it might have 3 arms? One appears to be near the ankh on the chest piece while the other is further towards the fron of the gun and looks like its attached to the gun

I'm wondering if the gun may be some kind of enmitic annihilator variation rather than a gauss weapon. The caption may indicate otherwise though.

Edited for spelling

Or it could be that Enmitic weapons are souped up gauss variants.

The plasmacyte has a little needle tentacle above its head, maybe it'll have a bonus to attack psykers? Maybe it'll liquefy opponents for research, super excited to see what it is

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

punisher357 wrote:
I love the extra weapon options/variants for the skorpekhs. It's great that we're finally getting a variety!

Did anyone notice that the large destroyer with the huge gun (bottom left corner) looks like it might have 3 arms? One appears to be near the ankh on the chest piece while the other is further towards the fron of the gun and looks like its attached to the gun

I'm wondering if the gun may be some kind of enmitic annihilator variation rather than a gauss weapon. The caption may indicate otherwise though.

Edited for spelling

Looking at it it does have 3 arms, good catch! I think the enmitic annihilator was that huge blade the Lord had, could be wrong though. I agree that it does look like another class of guass though, different from the current aesthetic for sure

I'm pretty sure that the enmitic annihilator is the gun. I've read so much stuff I couldn't possibly remember where I read it, so maybe I'm wrong.
However, if you look at the gun on the skorpekh destroyer lord and on the "heavy destroyer" they look to be of the same type. They look different from the gauss weapons on the warriors. there's also a unit/model on the box set towards the bottom left that kind of looks like an immortal with a deathmark head, but it has the new body with the large shoulder spines. It appears to be carrying a gauss blaster.
The only reason I bring it up is it appears gauss is keeping the look we already know and the enmitic guns have a different look.

So far we have:
1: 2 or 3 (depends on your opinion) bladed weapons on the skorpekhs
2: the reaper gun for the warriors
3: the mini deathray on the monolith (if that's what it is)
4. the gun on the back of the quadruped (it looks more like a gauss exterminator than a doomsday cannon to me)
5. A flensing claw on skorpekhs destroyer lord
6. An enmitic annihilator also on skorpekh DL
7. Whatever the glowing orbs are on the "smaller" quadruped (look kind of like seraptek weapons)
8. The gauntlet on the new overlord on the right of the pic of the box set

I'd say we're getting some goodies!

punisher357 wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

punisher357 wrote:
I love the extra weapon options/variants for the skorpekhs. It's great that we're finally getting a variety!

Did anyone notice that the large destroyer with the huge gun (bottom left corner) looks like it might have 3 arms? One appears to be near the ankh on the chest piece while the other is further towards the fron of the gun and looks like its attached to the gun

I'm wondering if the gun may be some kind of enmitic annihilator variation rather than a gauss weapon. The caption may indicate otherwise though.

Edited for spelling

Looking at it it does have 3 arms, good catch! I think the enmitic annihilator was that huge blade the Lord had, could be wrong though. I agree that it does look like another class of guass though, different from the current aesthetic for sure

I'm pretty sure that the enmitic annihilator is the gun. I've read so much stuff I couldn't possibly remember where I read it, so maybe I'm wrong.
However, if you look at the gun on the skorpekh destroyer lord and on the "heavy destroyer" they look to be of the same type. They look different from the gauss weapons on the warriors. there's also a unit/model on the box set towards the bottom left that kind of looks like an immortal with a deathmark head, but it has the new body with the large shoulder spines. It appears to be carrying a gauss blaster.
The only reason I bring it up is it appears gauss is keeping the look we already know and the enmitic guns have a different look.

So far we have:
1: 2 or 3 (depends on your opinion) bladed weapons on the skorpekhs
2: the reaper gun for the warriors
3: the mini deathray on the monolith (if that's what it is)
4. the gun on the back of the quadruped (it looks more like a gauss exterminator than a doomsday cannon to me)
5. A flensing claw on skorpekhs destroyer lord
6. An enmitic annihilator also on skorpekh DL
7. Whatever the glowing orbs are on the "smaller" quadruped (look kind of like seraptek weapons)
8. The gauntlet on the new overlord on the right of the pic of the box set

I'd say we're getting some goodies!

Do you think the model on the left is a new destroyer? His guns quite chunky and I dont think he has any legs from what i can tell. Of course the picture isn't the best either

It really looks just like an ornate immortal to me, and that weapon looks like a standard Gauss Blaster.

 Aza'Gorod wrote:


Do you think the model on the left is a new destroyer? His guns quite chunky and I dont think he has any legs from what i can tell. Of course the picture isn't the best either

The fact it appears to be just a single model in the box suggests it's either some sort of Destroyer Lord or maybe just a new Heavy Destroyer. Given that GW are phasing out (harr harr) the old green rods Destroyers are likely getting new models and some kind of kit with the two weapon options in seems likely. I wouldn't be surprised if this is some kind of quick build version of a new Destroyer kit.


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 Sasori wrote:
It really looks just like an ornate immortal to me, and that weapon looks like a standard Gauss Blaster.

It definitely looks like it's on a Destroyer-style repulsor platform. There are some pictures circulating that show what's basically a Destroyer in the bigger image with the Silent King and this guy looks similar.

 Sasori wrote:
It really looks just like an ornate immortal to me, and that weapon looks like a standard Gauss Blaster.

Correct. We've seen the new Heavy Destroyer, it seems, in that potato camera shot. No sign of the standard Destroyers just yet though!

Slipspace wrote:

 Aza'Gorod wrote:


Do you think the model on the left is a new destroyer? His guns quite chunky and I dont think he has any legs from what i can tell. Of course the picture isn't the best either

The fact it appears to be just a single model in the box suggests it's either some sort of Destroyer Lord or maybe just a new Heavy Destroyer. Given that GW are phasing out (harr harr) the old green rods Destroyers are likely getting new models and some kind of kit with the two weapon options in seems likely. I wouldn't be surprised if this is some kind of quick build version of a new Destroyer kit.


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 Sasori wrote:
It really looks just like an ornate immortal to me, and that weapon looks like a standard Gauss Blaster.

It definitely looks like it's on a Destroyer-style repulsor platform. There are some pictures circulating that show what's basically a Destroyer in the bigger image with the Silent King and this guy looks similar.

If you look under the tube on the gun, it looks like a foot to me.

 Sasori wrote:

Slipspace wrote:

 Aza'Gorod wrote:


Do you think the model on the left is a new destroyer? His guns quite chunky and I dont think he has any legs from what i can tell. Of course the picture isn't the best either

The fact it appears to be just a single model in the box suggests it's either some sort of Destroyer Lord or maybe just a new Heavy Destroyer. Given that GW are phasing out (harr harr) the old green rods Destroyers are likely getting new models and some kind of kit with the two weapon options in seems likely. I wouldn't be surprised if this is some kind of quick build version of a new Destroyer kit.


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 Sasori wrote:
It really looks just like an ornate immortal to me, and that weapon looks like a standard Gauss Blaster.

It definitely looks like it's on a Destroyer-style repulsor platform. There are some pictures circulating that show what's basically a Destroyer in the bigger image with the Silent King and this guy looks similar.

If you look under the tube on the gun, it looks like a foot to me.

Y'know, I think you're right. In which case it's presumably some kind of character since there seems to only be one in the box. Maybe Necrons are finally getting some characters with half-decent guns.

Slipspace wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

Slipspace wrote:

 Aza'Gorod wrote:


Do you think the model on the left is a new destroyer? His guns quite chunky and I dont think he has any legs from what i can tell. Of course the picture isn't the best either

The fact it appears to be just a single model in the box suggests it's either some sort of Destroyer Lord or maybe just a new Heavy Destroyer. Given that GW are phasing out (harr harr) the old green rods Destroyers are likely getting new models and some kind of kit with the two weapon options in seems likely. I wouldn't be surprised if this is some kind of quick build version of a new Destroyer kit.


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 Sasori wrote:
It really looks just like an ornate immortal to me, and that weapon looks like a standard Gauss Blaster.

It definitely looks like it's on a Destroyer-style repulsor platform. There are some pictures circulating that show what's basically a Destroyer in the bigger image with the Silent King and this guy looks similar.

If you look under the tube on the gun, it looks like a foot to me.

It looks like there are at least 3 (Speculated) characters in the box, not counting this. The Skorpekh Lord, The Overlord looking character by the Walker, and the Cryptek Character in the center. This would be the 4th one if it is a character.

Which is why it's such a mystery. It has the ornate character to imply a character, but it looks just like an immortal with a Gauss Blaster. Maybe this is supposed to be a new Lord?

Y'know, I think you're right. In which case it's presumably some kind of character since there seems to only be one in the box. Maybe Necrons are finally getting some characters with half-decent guns.

It looks like there are at least 3 (Speculated) characters in the box, not counting this. The Skorpekh Lord, The Overlord looking character by the Walker, and the Cryptek Character in the center. This would be the 4th one if it is a character.

Which is why it's such a mystery. It has the ornate character to imply a character, but it looks just like an immortal with a Gauss Blaster. Maybe this is supposed to be a new Lord?

Could be a Lord. We don't really have a proper Lord character - it's just a sort-of repurposed Overlord model IIRC. Most Necron characters will be getting replaced I suspect since all but a few are plastic.

Best speculation, at the moment, is to consider it a new 'type' of character. There are two of them and both have the upper bodies of the Skorpekh Lord with the flared shoulders and only two legs.

I really hope they're going to flesh out the necron hierarchy and nobility beyond Overlord/Lord/Cryptek. Asuuming that all the characters in the box are different from any current character that gives us

-Skorpekh DL
-Technomandrite-looking-guy
-Greater Overlord
-Greater/Lesser/Normal(?) Lord

Still nowhere near the number of characters some armies have, and if we're really luck, we might get non-HQ characters too

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I really hope they're going to flesh out the necron hierarchy and nobility beyond Overlord/Lord/Cryptek. Asuuming that all the characters in the box are different from any current character that gives us

-Skorpekh DL
-Technomandrite-looking-guy
-Greater Overlord
-Greater/Lesser/Normal(?) Lord

Still nowhere near the number of characters some armies have, and if we're really luck, we might get non-HQ characters too

I don't really think we need more options for the Hierarchy, I just want more options for what we already have.

 Sasori wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I really hope they're going to flesh out the necron hierarchy and nobility beyond Overlord/Lord/Cryptek. Asuuming that all the characters in the box are different from any current character that gives us

-Skorpekh DL
-Technomandrite-looking-guy
-Greater Overlord
-Greater/Lesser/Normal(?) Lord

Still nowhere near the number of characters some armies have, and if we're really luck, we might get non-HQ characters too

I don't really think we need more options for the Hierarchy, I just want more options for what we already have.

I'm just spitballing, options of any kind will welcome. Curious as to what shape they might take.

New WarHamCom article up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/03/warhammer-40000-matched-play-points-and-an-appgw-homepage-post-1/

Very interesting, I like this style of mission much better than the current set.

Being able to pick secondary objectives should help Necrons quite a bit. Especially if the monolith gets some decent new rules then I figure we'll have some great board control

It will definitely be interesting to see what GW does with the Monolith, it has felt largely forgotten for the most part since the faction got rebooted, as if they wrote the codex and then remembered it still existed afterward

 Vaktathi wrote:
It will definitely be interesting to see what GW does with the Monolith, it has felt largely forgotten for the most part since the faction got rebooted, as if they wrote the codex and then remembered it still existed afterward

Very true, Necrons are my first, largest, and favorite army, and I couldnt tell you any of the stats related to the Spyder

Here's to hoping that we dont just get some new models but also some internal balance too

 Vaktathi wrote:
It will definitely be interesting to see what GW does with the Monolith, it has felt largely forgotten for the most part since the faction got rebooted, as if they wrote the codex and then remembered it still existed afterward

It looks like it's at least going to have some of the same functionality with the portal and focal point. The real thing I'm wondering about is what role (If any) the Blackstone is going to play.

They also need to make it tougher, it really needs some kind of invulnerable save.

Would giving the Monolith Quantum Shielding be a fix?

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Would giving the Monolith Quantum Shielding be a fix?

Eh. . . I would really hope they revisit the Monolith in it's near entirety. Th 3rd-4th ed incarnation was so iconic, and incredibly useful for it's various abilities, in particular being able to pull units out of close combat and providing resurrection boosts at the same time. It's high level of defense against bonus Penetration dice. The ability to Deep Strike without mishap, and immediately use it's portal to teleport models around. It provided amazing utility that the current incarnation just doesn't seem to do. Adding some defensive bonus would be nice, but stronger supporting abilities would be most welcome.

The Monolith in 3rd-4th could make Necrons move like no other army.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Would giving the Monolith Quantum Shielding be a fix?

The monoliths problem is it's too many things, it deep strikes, acts as a transport, has an impressive array of weapons, flys, and is a fantastic LoS blocker. It can't be competitively pointed for any of those roles because it does all of those roles. Adding more stuff to it just makes the problem worse.