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I think one issue is that on the frigates some of the alien weapons don't really appear like conventional weapons or aura generators and such.

So it can be sometimes tricky to see the "functionality" on them compared to a human ship that's much more basic "here's a big railgun; here's some big broadside guns"

I'll be interested to see what other kits they are planning on launching with and how much of the fleet we'll see at launch for the Bioficers.

We’ve already seen another sprue of plastic Bioficer ships, probably monitors, destroyers and corvettes.

I think some of these are ships built from that sprue.

Yep, though just because its done doesn't mean it comes with the release wave, but I hope it does.

I'm hoping we'll see a frigate/cruiser boxed set and perhaps see individual frigate/cruiser boxes go away to cut down on the boxstock across all the factions.

Then a monitor/escort kit.

Then a battlecruiser/battleship kit in resin/plasticresin hybrid.


That's what I'd hope we'll see as that will give a good core to work from. I wouldn't expect a dreadnought nor leviathan class at launch, but hopefully at least one or both within 6months or so. Fast, but it brings them up to count with the other major factions

I dig D through I and L. Don't like any of the other.

I think they've made a mistake releasing new UCM ships. The game doesn't have the player base dedicated enough to replace their current range and I think this will put people off getting back into the game as their ships won't match the new ones. I have no idea why they've decided to replace their perfectly fine older plastic sprues with these newer ones.

I think its part of them refreshing their range so that a lot more of their ships are in plastic plus hopefully improvements from years of making plastics and refinements. They don't need existing customers to replace them, they likely need new customers to pick them up

Preorders for this still going live today? I've never played DFC but have played DZC and really like it. Looking for something current to scratch the fleet battles itch

Preorders should be going live at some point today.

Hopefully its for more than just the starter box - at the very least we should see the boxes for the other factions as well go live since they are all down now.

Stuff coming up now - https://ttcombat.com/collections/dropfleet-commander

Starter box is £80 and the rulebook is a tenner.

Those Light Ship boxes are random...

beast_gts wrote:
Stuff coming up now - https://ttcombat.com/collections/dropfleet-commander

Starter box is £80 and the rulebook is a tenner.

Those Light Ship boxes are random...

If you mean the "2 Destroyers or 1 Heavy Destroyer"
Part of the contents I think that just means that you get enough parts to build either 2 destroyers or 1 heavy destroyer


Battlecruisers are now sold two to a pack

I meant I don't think there's min-sized squadrons in them (but I've not checked!).

Could be they shifted around squad sizes. I also noticed there's a bunch of "direct only" products on show too


The single cruiser and frigate options though appear a little random - then again I guess they do get requests from people that just want one to fill in a gap

 Overread wrote:
I also noticed there's a bunch of "direct only" products on show too

It looks like that's all the resin stuff

Yeah I can see why that might be logical - helps save having to produce loads for stocking 3rd party stores and means that if they shift those resin models to plastic in the future they can just do it internally rather than having mixed products on the highstreet.

Bit of a shame as that means no more discounts on them (although I do note that they run an ebay store and I have had discount offers from it in the past when viewing things so you might get a discount through that)


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Also bioficer Battlecruisers look ace

This one is basically one massive forward firing cannon!


This kind of weapon I'm guessing is a frontal and side arcing weapon. Since their ships don't have any side guns at all this one is likely good for strafing runs



This one is listed as a carrier

 Overread wrote:
Also bioficer Battlecruisers look ace

They're also listed as resin - I thought new stuff was plastic?

beast_gts wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Also bioficer Battlecruisers look ace

They're also listed as resin - I thought new stuff was plastic?

I think they've done a big pass on making core ships plastic. So monitors, escorts, frigates, cruisers and so forth. But all the limited quantity specialist and larger ships are still resin.

Check out the new scourge core ships box. That looks like the old KS exclusive crest/mast for their battlecruisers. I don't know the PHR and Shaltari well enough to tell if they got the same new/old bits.


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Didn't they say they were going to post about the rules this week? They've got, what, like 2 business hours left. Real hard not to read the old political/reporting Friday Afternoon News Dump policy into it.

beast_gts wrote:
I meant I don't think there's min-sized squadrons in them (but I've not checked!).

They either will change the min squad sizes or they expect everyone to buy two small ships boxes, which is a savings over buying everything in resin but massively less convenient than say, just buying destroyers because you just want destroyers.


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 slyphic wrote:
Check out the new scourge core ships box. That looks like the old KS exclusive crest/mast for their battlecruisers. I don't know the PHR and Shaltari well enough to tell if they got the same new/old bits.


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Didn't they say they were going to post about the rules this week? They've got, what, like 2 business hours left. Real hard not to read the old political/reporting Friday Afternoon News Dump policy into it.

Those Scourge ships look identical to the old KS ships to me. The only crest I see is the plastic Heavy Cruiser half-cloak crest included on the plastic sprues.

As for rules, word on Facebook is they’re releasing something tomorrow to discuss 5 big rule changes. (Number 4 might surprise you!)

Considering they won't be shipping till the 18th of October there's a pretty long window for them to tease out details on the new rules, new sprues and so forth.

Heck I'm keen but I'll likely hold off actually ordering until October

You'd have to be a rube to buy a game rules-unseen given TTC's history, doubly so with no bonus, discount, or early shipping (store says nothing goes out until release date), triply so given the rules will probably be fully up by that date and you can just read them and then decide and get your stuff if you still want it on the same day.

Well they'll be doing rules previews and all over the next month. So plenty of time to get a feel for the new game. Personally I'm in for the ships so unless things appear to be insanely bonkers dire I'd be down for some of those ships in October.

But like I said I likely won't order until October as there's no boon to ordering early

For the UK people - Goblin Gaming have the pre-order stuff up at 15% off.

I don’t care much about the rules. I’m lucky to play a handful of games a year. I’m all about the minis and the lore, so this has me well served.

That's kind of not saying much at all. I can see the first point falling either side of a good change. The second I like in theory, but a poor implementation could still be far worse than the cards.

The change to activations I immediately hate. They deliberately moved from planning to reacting which is literally dumbing down the game. The exact kind of bad change I was dreading. Also, this feels like it's going to slow the game down a smidge as well.

Random scenarios like the abilities above is going to depend on what exactly is on the cards. The original game's scenario design wasn't exactly stellar, so there's more room to improve.

Ground game is a given change, and the most interesting one they've still said nothing about. This is the make or break I think for the whole edition.

And post some battle reports you cowards! Never buy a game the designer doesn't enjoy playing enough to write up.

Well, I think I’m going to save some of the PDFs off their site now just in case. The new vocabulary makes it sound like I might have to relearn the basics for my two-three games a year, which is more work than I was expecting for this new edition.

From a quick glance, at least it looks like they're keeping the original sculpts for UCM available, which is nice whenever I pick the game up more readily.

Bioficer ships though are still definitely high on the weird axis for visual design and I'm still not sure what to think of their core frigates/cruisers

Bioficers are growing on me. Something about them reminds me of very classic scofi, like Dr who sonic screwdriver type weirdness with the weapons and tech

chaos0xomega wrote:
Bioficers are growing on me. Something about them reminds me of very classic scofi, like Dr who sonic screwdriver type weirdness with the weapons and tech

For me its the mix of that, plus the fact that you can pick out the key functional elements of the ships (often weapons). A few benefit from the artwork (eg the lightning weapons) to help sell the idea of them; but in general you can see the functionality buried within the totally alien elements. It means you can engage with the totally alien elements; whilst also having a grip on what does what.