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Everything they put out is " limited " its the new hot thing. Better pre order them all, as soon as you can. Order as many as you can. Gobble them up, like Baba Yaga scooping up the kids in her cottage on giant chicken legs, scour the land.

Don't miss out ! Don't ! Get ! Eliminated !

 GangstaMuffin24 wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 GangstaMuffin24 wrote:
I've never seen the starter set for an edition not be available (while that edition is current of course). I'm nearly 100% sure it's just marketing hype. You may have to wait a bit after the initial release to find a set if you don't preorder, but I can't imagine a world where they aren't essentially always available until the next edition.

They have specifically said that this is not a starter set for the edition, and this is a limited edition launch set for veterans.

They have been very clear on that. This is not a Dark Imperium equivalent that sticks around for a whole edition.

I must've missed where they mentioned that. I'll take your word for it though!

It doesn't have measuring sticks or dice.
And they can just be cheeky and put 'See Codex Necrons' for all reference to Reanimation Protocols and Living Metal, and so not spoil in any upcoming changes in the new Necron Codex.

As a 'launch box' rather than a 'starter box' it doesn't have to be completely playable with just the box contents.

At the Reveal, I'm sure it was said that there will be enough for everybody but the box won't be around for ever. That to me sounds time limited, not numbers limited. Though at the official unboxing, the Core Rules was said to be specific to that box (no text on front cover) which does smack of limited edition.

 Overread wrote:

Also don't forget some people will be getting doubles, triples etc... some will be getting it for the book alone or one army. So if you miss out DO hunt up facebook/forums/ebay as in the first weeks of release is the best time you'll get sensible deals on the price of the contents.

Are you sure/serious ? Last weekend, the preordered Sororitas book set was on eBay within 10 mins of the GW website going live with the preorder. For 300% price increases. Same with the Sisters box in November. Either separated sets of minis or the codex at ridiculous prices. You can even preorder a Necron half of the Indomitus box now on eBay UK for £80. And that's without knowing the actual price of the box. If they based it on the rumour that it would be around £120, that's a massive markup.

Ebay and to a degree FB Sales pages are a scalpers paradise now and GW are playing right along. If they limited the preorder to one box per customer, that would ensure everyone did get a chance. You'll see the same sellers on eBay with 10+ of the same items, just showcasing that GW only wants the initial sales. What happens after to their customers, they really don't care about.

My guess is that there will be another box out soon after minus some of the HQs and with a regular book for a lower price. They are bundling a lot of HQs into this box to up the price.

 Overread wrote:
they mention it several times in the Twitch Steams when they did the big reveal.

Ah. I didn't watch the twitch streams. I just read the articles on the site.

HappyMartian wrote:
At the Reveal, I'm sure it was said that there will be enough for everybody but the box won't be around for ever. That to me sounds time limited, not numbers limited. Though at the official unboxing, the Core Rules was said to be specific to that box (no text on front cover) which does smack of limited edition.

 Overread wrote:

Also don't forget some people will be getting doubles, triples etc... some will be getting it for the book alone or one army. So if you miss out DO hunt up facebook/forums/ebay as in the first weeks of release is the best time you'll get sensible deals on the price of the contents.

Are you sure/serious ? Last weekend, the preordered Sororitas book set was on eBay within 10 mins of the GW website going live with the preorder. For 300% price increases. Same with the Sisters box in November. Either separated sets of minis or the codex at ridiculous prices. You can even preorder a Necron half of the Indomitus box now on eBay UK for £80. And that's without knowing the actual price of the box. If they based it on the rumour that it would be around £120, that's a massive markup.

Ebay and to a degree FB Sales pages are a scalpers paradise now and GW are playing right along. If they limited the preorder to one box per customer, that would ensure everyone did get a chance. You'll see the same sellers on eBay with 10+ of the same items, just showcasing that GW only wants the initial sales. What happens after to their customers, they really don't care about.

Yes I'm serious

First up a limited edition book to only 1500 copies worldwide is clearly not going to appear on ebay on launch day by anyone but scalpers. It's a single product where the extras are what makes it worth buying over other editions. So there's nothing to "split" as such.

Meanwhile Indomitus has two different armies and a big rulebook. I would wager a fair large number only want one of the two armies and there will be some who only want the rulebook. Plus anyone getting more than one copy will not likely want two rulebooks. So there is going to very quickly be a bounty of normal gamers selling off their excess content right from the very beginning. That's the market that will typically have a more "sane" price in the FB/Forum/Ebay groups.

OF course scalpers will still be doing expensive options, and those will typically be the last to sell and might stick around for ages and ages.

Most of the duel army boxed sets in the weeks following their launch had affordable/sane priced options on the market. There were a few outliers, eg the Feast of Bones was easy to get hold of Ogor content at cheaper prices, but much harder to get hold of Ossiarch content, mostly because the Ossiarch was all new, whilst the Ogor only had the new leader; so there was a pool of Ogor players who didn't "need" the regular stuff.

This being an entirely new set I'd wager more people want the majority of both halves - even Necron players will want the new warriors for the new weapons.

For what it's worth, I bought Drazhar and the new Incubi off a bits website before PA came out, for less than the models are selling now (including discounters).

 Overread wrote:

This being an entirely new set I'd wager more people want the majority of both halves - even Necron players will want the new warriors for the new weapons.

The rodless flayers, maybe. The awful new gun? Doubtful.

One of my local shops posted they have secured 55 boxes and has a list of names who want a box held for them. We have 4 shops in town and all are ordering/taking names for a boxset.

Voss wrote:

 Overread wrote:

This being an entirely new set I'd wager more people want the majority of both halves - even Necron players will want the new warriors for the new weapons.

The rodless flayers, maybe. The awful new gun? Doubtful.

It's a different gun. For that alone colllectors and fluff players will want them. Most Necron players will have 40 Warriors with the old gun already, their only reason to buy new Warriors will be the new gun and slightly different Warrior Design.
Just like with Plague Marines - I had about 50 before 8 th edition started, with the new edition I bought the 20 new ones' anyway and equipped them with all the new CC weapons, mostly.

Dubious as I am about the new Warrior guns? I’m willing to give them a try once I’ve got used to the basics.

Given the new terrain rules will probably need experience of the game, they might yet have a place in my list for ambushes.

"This new release is so limited that we printed enough for everyone!" - Games Workshop

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Dubious as I am about the new Warrior guns? I’m willing to give them a try once I’ve got used to the basics.

You're not wrong to be dubious. A Rapid Fire weapon with that short a range isn't going to be benefiting from said Rapid Fire all that often. Still, they look cool.

 GangstaMuffin24 wrote:
I've never seen the starter set for an edition not be available (while that edition is current of course). I'm nearly 100% sure it's just marketing hype. You may have to wait a bit after the initial release to find a set if you don't preorder, but I can't imagine a world where they aren't essentially always available until the next edition.

Here's your mistake. This is NOT starter set. This is launch set. Actual starter set comes later with non-limited edition rulebook, measure tape and dices(note how this doesn't have those...Standard items in STARTER sets). Possibly less models. And cheaper price.

This selling out within 5 minutes doesn't matter in terms of "starter set not being available" since this isn't the starter set.

tneva82 wrote:

 GangstaMuffin24 wrote:
I've never seen the starter set for an edition not be available (while that edition is current of course). I'm nearly 100% sure it's just marketing hype. You may have to wait a bit after the initial release to find a set if you don't preorder, but I can't imagine a world where they aren't essentially always available until the next edition.

Here's your mistake. This is NOT starter set. This is launch set. Actual starter set comes later with non-limited edition rulebook, measure tape and dices(note how this doesn't have those...Standard items in STARTER sets). Possibly less models. And cheaper price.

This selling out within 5 minutes doesn't matter in terms of "starter set not being available" since this isn't the starter set.

Yeah, someone else already pointed that out.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

Voss wrote:

 Overread wrote:

This being an entirely new set I'd wager more people want the majority of both halves - even Necron players will want the new warriors for the new weapons.

The rodless flayers, maybe. The awful new gun? Doubtful.

It's a different gun. For that alone colllectors and fluff players will want them. Most Necron players will have 40 Warriors with the old gun already, their only reason to buy new Warriors will be the new gun and slightly different Warrior Design.
Just like with Plague Marines - I had about 50 before 8 th edition started, with the new edition I bought the 20 new ones' anyway and equipped them with all the new CC weapons, mostly.

I'm replacing all my green rod stuff, so I'm building the warriors with flayers and reapers.

Plastic molds are expensive as hell. They aren't going to discontinue the models until they have made their money back.

And honestly this is where I expect shenanigans. I expect once the "limited" launch box is finished some new Necron boxes and Primaris Veteran boxes will be on the shelves.

For any Kiwis or Aussies ( probably? ) mightyape has the preorder going live 10am ( NZ ) Saturday morning. Due to the size I'm not sure if they'll send it overseas.
I'm trying to convince myself that buying two just for the Necron side of it is overkill.

My guess is not very limited.

Like you can probably get 6 of these if you want, It's not selling out before it ships and will likely be available to anyone who wants one for a month after release.

They made a certain number of boxes, thats how limited it is. Its not a limited edition where you get a certificate saying something like 150/1000. There must be plenty when you can order 6 boxes.

It'll be limited in the same way as Shadow Spear. But a larger print run. Then there'll be a start collecting box without some of the characters.

This just in.

I was just in my flgs and they are expecting 45 box's. It's the only game store in my town.

Given the two week pre-order window, I would guess there will be plenty to meet initial demand. I would have a hard time thinking that the logisticians (bean counters) at GW would decide on a 2 week pre-order window for what everyone except them is calling the 9th ed. starter box and not have enough to meet orders during that time. I think it would be a bit of a customer relations fiasco to have it sell out the first day of a two week pre-order period

But what about the 3 box per order limit that was just announced, which has been reduced from the 6 box limit previously announced? Isn't that a sign that supply is really limited? IMHO this is really a marketing and seemingly face saving effort by GW to both drive the impression of higher scarcity to drive sales while at the same time trying to be seen as combating the evils of speculators and scalpers.

Btw but what is to keep someone from placing multiple 3 box orders? Pretty sure they only have it set to go off login info and not by ship to or payment info.

On a somewhat of a segway, now that we now the US price, $199 USD, and the core book price, $65 USD, we can draw some conclusions on value, which is to say pretty consistent with the value we have seen out of these starter/launch boxes historically. In short, the box is worth the deal if you want the minis in it and a hard copy core rule book.

In fairness, Lord of Deeds, I think they were similarly confident when it came to the initial release of the SoB box - needless to say GW isn't always the best at reading the room in that regard

Honestly few genuine gamers would need 6 copies. It's more likely that they could potentially afford 6 per customer, until scalpers get in on the deal. Cutting it to 3 is a more sensible number for those who want to double/triple up on content whilst being honest customers and not just scalpers up to resell.


Keeping in mind if you swapped 6 copies would give you potentially 12 sets of the same models. For either force that's a very big number!

Tinfoil hat tells me its fake scarcity boswellox

or that theres a non-portional hike in postage over 10kg (intertube suggests box is around 3kg)

I'd say somewhere between the 2 minute Sisters of Battle Army Box... and Dreadfleet limited.

Someone suggested that the limit move could be a reaction to how many boxes stores have put in for their preorders.

The scenario of it being a market plot, or just higher than expected demand both seem plausible.

I would normally err on the side of caution with this and just ensure mine is pre-ordered, but you gotta do what you feel is best for your wallet.

I really believe theres a enormous demand.

I mean, my store had 15 copies assigned to it and just from 4 friends they are gonna order 12 boxes. Not one to resell later.

Sold out to trade in Uk now.