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Also even with a flash sale some things just might not shift. A Blind box that sells out they can put some good stuff in there and also a few things that might be good but just don't catch the customers eye as much.

Plus these aren't necessarily things that they are putting out of production, just things that they have too many of in the warehouse and want gone to clear space. If they went and put Gaurdsmen on a 50% sale; that 50% price becomes the "price" people expect and want to buy at. Suddenly people stop/slow buying them after the sale as they wait for the next sale. It might have knock on effects - everyone waits for "their troop turn at a sale".

Sale culture is something companies have to be careful about; on the one hand it can shift large amounts of stock; on the other if they get it wrong they can have a customerbase that is waiting for sales and expecting lower prices whilst the parent company doesn't actually want those sales.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Underworlds crate contents posted on FB. 3 warbands and a ton of crap including the carry case and playmat, just like predicted.
So barely a saving over just buying 3 warbands seperately.

Do you know which warbands? Will be interesting to see if they are the older ones, or which of them are perhaps the worse sellers.
   
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from reddit:

Godsworn Hunt £20
Champions of Dreadfane £37.50
Primal Lair £22.50
Playmat £12
Deckbox £5
Counters £12
Carry Case £32.50

£141.50

So only two warbands? I imagine if they had bundled that up and sold it for £65 it probably would have gone, but I also imagine a lot of disappointed people. buying 3 warbands they actually wanted would probably give most people more 'value'

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The imperium one is just the plastic enginseer and then 15 painting handles.
   
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The fact that the contents of the Underworlds supply box wasn’t solely miniatures was a bit of a red flag for me, I’m glad I avoided that one.

Still hopeful that the imperium one is miniatures only, as it was strongly implied in the wording that it was.
   
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Honestly I've wanted the Godsworn - if I'd known I'd have likely gone for it.

Instead I've got a scary 20 legged necron resin walker that is freaking intimidating to build!

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Might be able to get a Godsworn cheap on ebay at least!
   
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For Australian Customers, that Underworlds set comes up at a total of $375, but the value of our kit should be $450.
As stated, they vary by region, but it will be interesting to see how varied the regions are, and what makes up the difference.
   
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Also GW totaly on form here 12 run-of-the-mill infantry sized minis for £70 - hyped it up as models and kits, emphasis on painting and collecting - 4/7 aren't even plastic model kits. Nice geedubs.
   
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 Shooter wrote:
from reddit:

Godsworn Hunt £20
Champions of Dreadfane £37.50
Primal Lair £22.50
Playmat £12
Deckbox £5
Counters £12
Carry Case £32.50

£141.50

So only two warbands? I imagine if they had bundled that up and sold it for £65 it probably would have gone, but I also imagine a lot of disappointed people. buying 3 warbands they actually wanted would probably give most people more 'value


Champions is 2 warbands from the Barnes&Noble (I think) exclusive Underworlds board game spinoff, but with no new generic cards in the box, so slighlty less value than 2 normal warbands. Surprised they had overstock tho.

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 Shooter wrote:
from reddit:

Godsworn Hunt £20
Champions of Dreadfane £37.50
Primal Lair £22.50
Playmat £12
Deckbox £5
Counters £12
Carry Case £32.50

£141.50

So only two warbands? I imagine if they had bundled that up and sold it for £65 it probably would have gone, but I also imagine a lot of disappointed people. buying 3 warbands they actually wanted would probably give most people more 'value'



Thats three war bands? 2 in Champions of Dreadfane.. a box of terrain, carry case..decent enough if you are keen on Underworlds-all those are pretty handy but yeah if you wanted specific war bands you'd be better off buying them..

Seems ok- not my thing so didn't buy..
   
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Have we seen the Imperial boxes yet?

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 silverstu wrote:




Thats three war bands? 2 in Champions of Dreadfane.. a box of terrain, carry case..decent enough if you are keen on Underworlds-all those are pretty handy but yeah if you wanted specific war bands you'd be better off buying them..

Seems ok- not my thing so didn't buy..


Ah didn't realise there was two in dreadfane.
   
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 posermcbogus wrote:
The imperium one is just the plastic enginseer and then 15 painting handles.

Don't forget the plastic Commissar too.
   
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 Shooter wrote:
from reddit:

Godsworn Hunt £20
Champions of Dreadfane £37.50
Primal Lair £22.50
Playmat £12
Deckbox £5
Counters £12
Carry Case £32.50

£141.50

So only two warbands? I imagine if they had bundled that up and sold it for £65 it probably would have gone, but I also imagine a lot of disappointed people. buying 3 warbands they actually wanted would probably give most people more 'value'

Thanks for sharing the info!
Was briefly tempted by the Underworlds box as they're almost all nice models and I don't own too many yet, but then saw the prices of some the accessories and feared much of the "value" might be made up of those. Optimistically, there could have been another warband in there, but not surprised that there wasn't. Glad to have avoided it, the Godsworn Hunt figures and Banshees can be grabbed for less than half the price of the blind buy bundle. Not the best bundle for players new to Underworld either, if the Champions of Dreadfane lack generic cards, and with Godsworn Hunt being older and their cards being phased out before too long I guess.
   
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 ced1106 wrote:
Yeesh. Go ask grandpa what a "grab bag" was. They've been doing this long before you were invented.

I figure that, while GW's business model is to create inelastic demand by getting you to buy a specific model, there are still miniature enthusiasts who just want some GW-quality models to paint. They may not even play any GW games.

GW has so many individual products, I can see how inventory and warehousing of non-selling (and discontinued) product can become costly.


Last I checked grab bags and loot boxes didn’t cost £75 a throw. Hardly a random impulse buy for a lot of people...

But we all know GW’s whales have poor impulse control. Gotta buy those latest kits! I can exist on super noodles for the next month lol!


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 Grimtuff wrote:
 ced1106 wrote:
Yeesh. Go ask grandpa what a "grab bag" was. They've been doing this long before you were invented.

I figure that, while GW's business model is to create inelastic demand by getting you to buy a specific model, there are still miniature enthusiasts who just want some GW-quality models to paint. They may not even play any GW games.

GW has so many individual products, I can see how inventory and warehousing of non-selling (and discontinued) product can become costly.


Last I checked grab bags and loot boxes didn’t cost £75 a throw. Hardly a random impulse buy for a lot of people...


There definitely are ones that cost that or more. Mostly at conventions(mostly containing large Cosplay style items), but some of the Bluefin/Bandai ones cost upwards of $200USD and contain 5-6 figures that retail for $60-120 USD a piece.

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Apparently it still sold out in the UK. So... yeah. Good job rewarding them again.

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Gathering the Informations.

 Shooter wrote:
from reddit:

Godsworn Hunt £20
Champions of Dreadfane £37.50
Primal Lair £22.50
Playmat £12
Deckbox £5
Counters £12
Carry Case £32.50

£141.50

So only two warbands? I imagine if they had bundled that up and sold it for £65 it probably would have gone, but I also imagine a lot of disappointed people. buying 3 warbands they actually wanted would probably give most people more 'value'

Champions of Dreadfane is two warbands(Ironsoul's Condemnors: the Sequitor warband: and Lady Harrow's Mournflight: Myrmourn Banshees) in one box.


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 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Thanks for sharing the info!
Was briefly tempted by the Underworlds box as they're almost all nice models and I don't own too many yet, but then saw the prices of some the accessories and feared much of the "value" might be made up of those. Optimistically, there could have been another warband in there, but not surprised that there wasn't. Glad to have avoided it, the Godsworn Hunt figures and Banshees can be grabbed for less than half the price of the blind buy bundle. Not the best bundle for players new to Underworld either, if the Champions of Dreadfane lack generic cards, and with Godsworn Hunt being older and their cards being phased out before too long I guess.

Dreadfane lacks generic cards as it was a way to make a general release of the two warbands from 'Dreadfane', which is a regional exclusive at Barnes and Noble with a simplified playstyle.

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I was hoping Champions of Dreadfane wasn't going to be in it, given I've already got those models from Conquest and it's definitely the hardest to shift on Ebay, but the Godsworn Hunt is cool and I've not got anything from Underworlds so all the accessories are actually good?
   
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 Arbitrator wrote:
 posermcbogus wrote:
The imperium one is just the plastic enginseer and then 15 painting handles.

Don't forget the plastic Commissar too.



I forgot about that fething awful commissar.

The three metal commissars preceding it were awesome models, it’s genuinely depressing when a timeless metal model gets replaced by a gakky plastic version. See also: Daemon Prince
   
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 gorgon wrote:
 kodos wrote:
 gorgon wrote:

Yeah, at PAX Unplugged they sell board game mystery boxes and they sell like crazy. That's even more of a crapshoot than anything GW is doing here, since you have no idea what kind of board game you're getting.
But carry on with the outrage, folks.


they are selling random collections for 100€?
or random games?


Random games. Different publishers, types, genres. People buy 'em right up. Think this is them, if you're interested:

https://www.boardgameboosterbox.com/

It's almost like some people don't loathe their hobby and find it fun to throw some bucks at something and see what they get.


It is worth pointing out that for each of those boxes you buy, 4 games get given to a charity which donates games to children in poverty.

You get 4 games which you may enjoy and 4 kids get something to play with come Christmas.

So it is a charity thing.

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 Grimtuff wrote:

But we all know GW’s whales have poor impulse control. Gotta buy those latest kits! I can exist on super noodles for the next month lol!

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diepotato47 wrote:
If there’s a carry case in the Imperium Drop I’ll be stoked.



Extremely unlikely. I dont believe there is a 40k branded carry case, just the generic GW ones and theyre a standard regular seller so I wouldn't expect to see them in a drop box.

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I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
 
   
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 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
diepotato47 wrote:
If there’s a carry case in the Imperium Drop I’ll be stoked.



Extremely unlikely. I dont believe there is a 40k branded carry case, just the generic GW ones and theyre a standard regular seller so I wouldn't expect to see them in a drop box.


There actually is one, but it's on the small side and brand new.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
diepotato47 wrote:
If there’s a carry case in the Imperium Drop I’ll be stoked.



Extremely unlikely. I dont believe there is a 40k branded carry case, just the generic GW ones and theyre a standard regular seller so I wouldn't expect to see them in a drop box.


There actually is one, but it's on the small side and brand new.


That could be in it then, in fact id say pretty much guaranteed. I imagine it wouldnt sell much and would eat up some of the £150 value of the drop box. People seem to really disappointed by the Underworlds Drop box contents, I forsee similar with the Imperium one. It will be interesting to see what it contains and whether or not its contents will make people think twice about purchasing another blind box in the future

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I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
 
   
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Christ, the plastic commissar would be bad enough, that case would be a kick in the balls
   
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I’m in a good position tbh. So far, I’ve narrowed down the possible inclusions a bit, based on the webstore categories:

Great (stuff I’ll definitely keep, value to me is full rrp)
Anything Blood Angels
Anything Primaris (Including any ETB stuff)
Terrain
Gaming aids (Combat Gauge, dice, carry case)
Admech
Sisters

Good (stuff I’ll either keep or sell at 50% rrp)
Firstborn Marines
Non-Blood Angel Chapter Specific Marines
Guard
Talons
Inquisition (Plastics only)
Knights (not likely)

Bad (Stuff I can’t sell and don’t want, no value)
Codex and rulebooks
Finecast and metal (except Blood Angels)

I’m pretty sure with these criteria I’ve covered all bases, and should get my $225 worth. Can’t wait to see what I get.
   
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I'm glad that the inclusion of Beastgrave counters implies that these things didn't sell well. They are enormously overpriced - much more so in GW's overseas markets - and I don't remember seeing anybody with a set. If they'd been half price I would certainly have bought them.

The rest of that box isn't bad at all. I don't think there's anything to be upset about with that haul of stuff. The biggest problem really is that there a couple of warbands that don't fit well in those carry cases.
   
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 Arbitrator wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:

But we all know GW’s whales have poor impulse control. Gotta buy those latest kits! I can exist on super noodles for the next month lol!

"Haha don't tell the wife haha XD"

I always wonder if they're joking or just horrible husbands.
   
 
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