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gak that's actually decent. I did not suspect this could be the case.

So, that Italian FB image.. in the 40k Imperium box is a Beastgrave terrain box? Is that right?

Any chance someone dropped that in there on accident?

Im fairly happy with the given items in the box, as maybe I can snag some cheap Arcoflagellants off the 'Bay

 porkuslime wrote:
So, that Italian FB image.. in the 40k Imperium box is a Beastgrave terrain box? Is that right?

Any chance someone dropped that in there on accident?

Im fairly happy with the given items in the box, as maybe I can snag some cheap Arcoflagellants off the 'Bay

Maybe on accident, or maybe they dropped it in for basing material?

It's a fairly nifty set, and it doesn't hang off like some basing stuff does.

This was certainly an interesting experiment. Imperium supply drop looks now like potential win-win-win scenario. GW makes profit, middle man either keeps the stuff or sells with small profit, giving someone else a discount. Everyone is happy (except Dakka).

Yeah, there's nothing in the Imperium box I'd've been actively annoyed by getting had I seen the post/email in time to order on. While I don't have a Salamanders ro White Scar army, the characters are nice enough sculpts, so I'd either paint them myself, or use them as a reason to get a couple of models commission painted instead.

No, no. It was clearly a bad deal and everyone saying otherwise is either a whale, a shill, or a simp. (Am I doing this right, Dakka?)

 porkuslime wrote:
So, that Italian FB image.. in the 40k Imperium box is a Beastgrave terrain box? Is that right?

Any chance someone dropped that in there on accident?

I'm guessing they also got the Underworld blind box; one of the items in that was the Beastgrave terrain. If true, that might indicate that the items in this box will be the same in other countries.

I think people who just want to pay GW some money and get some random minis to paint will be happy enough with that selection. There's some good models in there (mixed in with some junk).

It's super lame for someone trying to actually run an army, though. Literally half the box is mutually exclusive space marine characters and/or faction restricted garbage like the wolves. And then some arcos, which nobody runs anyway, and which you can't run with any of the other stuff either. The SM bikes (also kinda junk) are literally the only kit in the thing that can be run with any of the other kits. And of course if you already have any of the armies involved, you're almost certain to either (1) already have a copy of that special character if it's good, or (2) have made an active decision not to buy it because it isn't good.

tld;dr: Pretty good value for a collector, borderline useless for actually playing the game.

yukishiro1 wrote:
I think people who just want to pay GW some money and get some random minis to paint will be happy enough with that selection. There's some good models in there (mixed in with some junk).

It's super lame for someone trying to actually run an army, though. Literally half the box is mutually exclusive space marine characters and/or faction restricted garbage like the wolves. And then some arcos, which nobody runs anyway, and which you can't run with any of the other stuff either. The SM bikes (also kinda junk) are literally the only kit in the thing that can be run with any of the other kits. And of course if you already have any of the armies involved, you're almost certain to either (1) already have a copy of that special character if it's good, or (2) have made an active decision not to buy it because it isn't good.

tld;dr: Pretty good value for a collector, borderline useless for actually playing the game.

So you were expecting a 200€ start collecting bundle for 100€?

A perfectly matched set of minis, for half the price.

Yeah right. Like that was going to happen.

I saw the Spanish one and is also pretty good bargain given you know you are getting assorted models

No, I wasn't expecting that. Why would you get that from what I typed? Please don't beat down strawmen, it's a waste of everybody's time.

If that wasn't your argument, what argument were you trying to make? That the box was a good deal for what GW advertised it to be?

 EnTyme wrote:
If that wasn't your argument, what argument were you trying to make? That the box was a good deal for what GW advertised it to be?

I think it was his way of accepting that the box had much better content than he had predicted, without actually admitting as such.

That was what I inferred from his comment anyway

 EnTyme wrote:
If that wasn't your argument, what argument were you trying to make? That the box was a good deal for what GW advertised it to be?

yukishiro1 wrote:

tld;dr: Pretty good value for a collector, borderline useless for actually playing the game.

Mate, I even put a tl;dr in there for you in case you couldn't be bothered to read the rest, not sure how you missed what I was trying to say.

So, your point was the box was good value for what GW said it would be for, but bad value for something it was never billed as.

 Aenar wrote:
40K Imperium supply box in Italy (don't know if it's identical to other countries):
- Sallies Adrax Agatone
- DA Master Lazarus
- BA Mephiston
- SoB Arco-flagellants
- WS Korsarro Khan
- SW Fenrisian Wolves
- SM Bikes

Pics not mine, from a fb group

Spoiler:

If this is the case, it pretty closely matches my expectation (in terms of value at least).

Great discount off MSRP, but completely and utterly pointless for many "Imperium" players. If you're playing Space Marines, especially multiple chapters or are heavy into conversions, awesome, but not a single thing I'd have been interested to actually get for my part, and I'd have been stuck trying to resell a bunch of stuff and be lucky to make back what I paid if I spent the time and effort to resell it all myself in any timely fashion.

As a collector and painter those 2 reports of whats in the box are promising and i certainly wouldnt be complaining about them if thats what i got. yeah a couple of items id have no use for, but even if i sold them at 50% of retail id still be "breaking even" and wont be out of pocket.

Has anyone seen anymore reports of whats inside the boxes?

 Grimtuff wrote:
Oof! Wounded!

Look at all those characters and units you cannot use together. Don't worry though, there might be something good in the next one! For realsies! Just gotta not tell the wife and eat only super noodles for the next month, then I can get that kit I just have to get! Because FOMO!

You spelt 'conversion fodder' wrong...


Even with my general aversion to Primaris, I wouldn't have been too unhappy with that box.

Also by what stretch of the imagination does this qualify as "FOMO"? Everything in these boxes is readily available on the webstore.

The only part you miss out on is the discount price. Which if you're not inclined to get blind boxes (eg because you want to build a specific army with specific models) then you're not the target market; but heck who knows if GW sold enough yo ucould pick up parted ones on ebay fairly easily.

 EnTyme wrote:
So, your point was the box was good value for what GW said it would be for, but bad value for something it was never billed as.

My point was what I wrote. Why do you keep trying to ascribe "points" to me that aren't what I said? Can't you just stick to making your own points? Not everybody has some big agenda to push with every comment they make. Why not just read what people write instead of making stuff up and pretending they said that instead?

I said exactly what I meant: it's pretty good value for someone who doesn't care about playing the game with the models they get, and pretty terrible value for someone who was hoping to start a new army (to whom, incidentally and contrary to what you wrote, they did specifically market it), or otherwise use the models they got to play the game the models are for.

It sounds like you agree with that, so I'm not sure why it's provoking such controversy or confusion?

 porkuslime wrote:
So, that Italian FB image.. in the 40k Imperium box is a Beastgrave terrain box? Is that right?

Any chance someone dropped that in there on accident?

They got the Underworlds Supply Drop as well.

 EnTyme wrote:
Also by what stretch of the imagination does this qualify as "FOMO"? Everything in these boxes is readily available on the webstore.

Fear of missing out the only chance to get GW minis from GW for 50% off?

I don't think it was a particularly effective FOMO appeal, but the literal title of the post on Warhammer Community is "Mystery Models. Unmissable Prices," and then the article goes on to say:

The answer is simple – mysterious models at a price you can’t miss.

And then:

While we may do more Supply Drops in the future, these two won’t be around forever. Make sure to order yours right now!

These are all explicit attempts to leverage FOMO. Like I said, I'm not sure it was a very effective FOMO pitch. But EnTyme might want to tell GW themselves that nothing about this was FOMO, because GW's own marketing department clearly thought otherwise.

Are all discounts going to be labelled as FOMO now? Is that the point we're at?

It's almost as if you don't know how limited time offers are supposed to work.

 EnTyme wrote:
Are all discounts going to be labelled as FOMO now? Is that the point we're at?

Depends how it’s done.

Even if its FOMO surely gw has the right to do it, I have no opinion either way , but it appears to have been effective, and there business is to sell plastic models.

 EnTyme wrote:
Are all discounts going to be labelled as FOMO now? Is that the point we're at?

Speaking for myself, no, just the ones that explicitly market themselves using FOMO. No less than three times in the single PR release, in this case.

If explicitly saying "unmissable! supplies won't last! order yours your right now!" isn't FOMO, what on earth is?

So at no point are people responsible for their own actions and self control?
Just blame everything around them because they are unable to control themselves?

Evil corporations tempting poor people into spending their own money.


If you can not control your own spending then miniatures are the least of your worries.

Marxist artist wrote:
Even if its FOMO surely gw has the right to do it, I have no opinion either way , but it appears to have been effective, and there business is to sell plastic models.

Having the right to do something and something being right to do can be very different things.