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Every other marine unit in the indomatus box has gotten threads devoted to why they're OP and how GW makes everything OP. Let's discuss assault intercessors!


Seriously though, I'm curious what everyone thinks of this unit because I'm not seeing them being all that great.

It's better than any other faction's troops, but is eclipsed in power by almost any other marine unit.

I can't imagine they're that good. They seem kinda tanky in CC for a troop but that's about it.

It might just be I’ve been playing low point crusade games, but it seems like a quick trip to the assault doctrine. Turn 4-5 these guys would do a great job batting clean up. They should put out a ton of ap -2 attacks.

I still think they are a little “meh” but not without their merits.

To me, their biggest issue is that they're kitted out for getting up close and personal, but as Troops, you also kinda want them sitting on objectives.
Of course, in a vacuum that makes them look bad but in reality, you can take them alongside other Intercessors or Tacs and have your Assault Intercessors push for further objectives, for instance those missions where you've got some in the enemy deployment zone or damn near to it.

I take 6x5 in my white scars. They're great. They become absolute beasts in T3 and before that I advance them every turn to hold the board and bog the board down with bodies.

I'm thinking of getting some intercessors with auto bolt rifles, but for now I think they're fine. (Fine, unlike the other things in indomitus. They don't need adjusting)

They're definitely a great option for the veteran intersessors stratagem to give them extra punch.

I'm still holding off on making and painting mine until the codex comes out. I want to make sure the veterans strat stays and also see if the sergeants get the full list of melee options which will really give them a lot more punch in CC.

I think they'll be a fun unit, but not exactly OP. Rushing to the assault doctrine will give them a boost, but by the time you get there, they'll either have already reached combat and have lost impetus, or they'll have been held back, at which point you'd have been better with shooty intersessors anyway.

Sadly the vetern intercessors strat actually doesn't work on them. they don't have the intercessor squad keyword

Hey look, another "intercessors are OP thread" *takes shot* (Sorry Brian, had to say it)

They don't really impress me. Once the stat changes for csm infantry and chainswords come into effect Chosen will make them look kind of sad, unless gw prices them through the roof. Same number of wounds and attacks, full selection of every melee weapon in the csm arsenal, plus whatever special weapons you're willing to pay for and better leadership. The only thing assault intercessors will have going on for them will be being troops. If gw had given them the option to take jump packs they could have been a little more impressive, but they didn't.

Oh that's a shame! I hadn't realised that at all. I wonder will that change with the codex release...

 Sentineil wrote:

I'm still holding off on making and painting mine until the codex comes out. I want to make sure the veterans strat stays and also see if the sergeants get the full list of melee options which will really give them a lot more punch in CC..

I built half of mine, but didn’t glue the arms on. For once, the push fit nature worked for me. If there are better options, it would be a simple job to retrofit magnets

The other half are waiting for next time I grab a normal Intercessor box to make them running with the autobolters.

They would be great in any other codex. In the Space Marine codex, they suffer from the fact that Intercessors are better all-rounders, and there are about a bajillion choices that are better for actually killing stuff. So it has to be a pretty particular list for them to be better than taking normal intercessors or specialists.

So basically it's another case of "a good unit in a book full of ridiculous units doesn't look so good any more."

Overpowered, underpowered.

Doesn't matter to me. I'm just glad they gave me a reason to start my Black Templars again.

 Eonfuzz wrote:
It's better than any other faction's troops, but is eclipsed in power by almost any other marine unit.

Stop this whiny hyperbole my man. For one easy example Nurglings are better than they are.

I really really really want to know what adjustments will be made to Tyranid Warriors, if any. At the moment they can get 4 S4 AP-2 Attacks with Boneswords.

Wouldn't a 3+ save be nice...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wouldn't a 3+ save be nice...

Don't do that to me. . .

I'm at least hoping for the Deathspitter to go to D2, but I doubt it. Additional wounds/toughness would be much appreciated.

I haven't really considered Assault Intercessors nor any lists I want them in yet. That said...

My Space Marines are (almost) exclusively Primaris. I noticed when applying the transfers to my marines in a pretty huge batch that I have a lot of Close Support units. Like more than half the infantry models in my collection. I doesn't help that I have 23 Reivers (12 knife, 11 carbine) in my marine collection. Elite slots aren't that much of an issue for me either in that I have some Aggressors, a Redemptor and an Apothecary. What my collection does have is a lot of Troop slot models. I don't really want to create more than a single Battalion at least initially when crafting my army lists. I am struggling much more with Heavy Support and even Fast Attack slots than I am Elites slots right now.

I'm having a hard time giving up my Auto Bolt Rifle Intercessors, Bolt Rifle Intercessors or my Infiltrators to squeeze in Assault Intercessors. I also only have a single Impulsor so I don't really have good movement options compared to Reivers. I also really like Reiver models and don't like loading up to heavy on any one role type. I like balance, although; I do lean toward infantry and being able to counter infantry with my armies in general. I just don't see what Assault Intercessors bring to the table (pun intended) that can't get out of my favorite 40k model beyond doubling down on lots of med Strength, Low AP/Damage melee weapons.

I mean I like the models and glad they were made. They just don't offer me anything I don't already have covered right now. I suppose it will be up to the new codex any stratagems that might have me changing my tune.

For context, the spoiler has my most current photo of my Space Marines. It's not everything, but it is like 95% of my current collection.

They kind of want mobility they don't have. Or they're White Scars, which helps.

They're good at killing light infantry if they get there, but... the other Intercessors don't have to chase infantry around to kill them. And if close combat does around, the others are.. down an attack, which doesn't matter so much if they've whittled the enemy down with bolter fire.

McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:I take 6x5 in my white scars. They're great. They become absolute beasts in T3 and before that I advance them every turn to hold the board and bog the board down with bodies.

I'm thinking of getting some intercessors with auto bolt rifles, but for now I think they're fine. (Fine, unlike the other things in indomitus. They don't need adjusting)

My Salamanders will be running 2x10(or 4x5) Assaults with 1x10(2x5) Auto Bolt Intercessors in my all Primaris list. I prob wont use any in my mixed(I love rhinos)instead full squads of Tacs or vets mobbing up the board supported by hellblasters & aggressors.

I really like the Assault Intercessor models tho and they give a good variety of poses when mixed into hellblasters or regular intercessors. My goal is to have 30 in total so at least one multipart box to build half and another to sprinkle poses into my hellblasters/intercessors.

I'm a fan of them. As troops that are good in assault with an absolute gak-ton of attacks, they're really good at playing the mission to take or at least deny enemy objectives. Any troop grade unit short of Custodians fears a charge by them, and even like a block of IG or Tyranid infantry can pretty trivially be removed from a point by them.

However, they're mostly targeting troops, not big fancy stuff, so their offensive output isn't raising any red flags, and they're playing the objectives making them pretty "boring but practical".


Also, as of now, regular intercessors can take a thunder hammer sergeant, which assault intercessors can't do [yet] so as an actual general-purpose offensive melee unit regular intercessors are a little better.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
I'm a fan of them. As troops that are good in assault with an absolute gak-ton of attacks, they're really good at playing the mission to take or at least deny enemy objectives. Any troop grade unit short of Custodians fears a charge by them, and even like a block of IG or Tyranid infantry can pretty trivially be removed from a point by them.

However, they're mostly targeting troops, not big fancy stuff, so their offensive output isn't raising any red flags, and they're playing the objectives making them pretty "boring but practical".


Also, as of now, regular intercessors can take a thunder hammer sergeant, which assault intercessors can't do [yet] so as an actual general-purpose offensive melee unit regular intercessors are a little better.

The issue I see is that Auto Bolt Rifle Intercessors still seem like a better option for capturing objectives save the times they would have to make long charges to get there. It is easy enough to hose down the defenders with Primaris BARs (like the WWII weapon) then get into melee with them. The big issue being the opponent pulling the closest models making the charge far more difficult/impossible. Even then, nothing saying they have to fire with the rifles when they could switch to pistols or split fire if it is of concern. The defending unit should be crippled and the BAR Intercessors still hit well enough to bully GEQ and out Obsec MEQ Troops. And once defending they can still threaten anything they can see within 24". The only thing that might be of interest is it the extra points cost is worth all that.

But that could all be down to how I field my space marine army.

 Super Ready wrote:
To me, their biggest issue is that they're kitted out for getting up close and personal, but as Troops, you also kinda want them sitting on objectives.
Of course, in a vacuum that makes them look bad but in reality, you can take them alongside other Intercessors or Tacs and have your Assault Intercessors push for further objectives, for instance those missions where you've got some in the enemy deployment zone or damn near to it.

Midfield objectives are forward and where enemy will come. 9th is about fighting over midfield objectives. go there and if opponent DOESN'T come there(where your assault infiltrators are) he's basically giving up the game.

Feels like UM Fall-Back-And-Shoot is going to be extra helpful this edition.

They die nicely to Battlecannons and can’t range me from the off. I’d love people to take more of these.

It's a cqc unit that kinda needs prolonged Engagements.

Both are things that atleast in 8th were worse then shooting.
That said if you play a subfactions with no fallback then they actually could be interesting if you got movement shenanigans.

Unless they get the option to take vet sgts with TH or other power weapons, they seem to be weaker and less well rounded an option then regular intercessors with auto boltguns.

Nice models though.

Overpowered? I don't know, not much experience against them so far to say so. Definitely extremely solid though.

 Blackie wrote:
Overpowered? I don't know, not much experience against them so far to say so. Definitely extremely solid though.

aye, they are certainly no khorne berzerkers, but they are a threat, especially against better armored units, what with ap-1 /-2 depending on game plan.

I'll admit it I did not have "unable to sate their oppression narrative with existing threads, marine players create their own marine salt thread in order to complain about how people are complaining about marines" on my dakka bingo card.