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Orks or Dark Eldar most likely given we've seen their HQs.
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
It's a Xenos in general picture from the Main Rulebook. Placeholder.
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
There is the interesting witholdal of the DA cover art. They've essentially confirmed it's the 1st so why hide the cover? Lion?
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
I mean, I wouldn't lie that i'd be happy if the codex was orks. We have seen one model being hinted, along side the Deathguard character that we've seen the full image of.
Eldarain wrote: There is the interesting witholdal of the DA cover art. They've essentially confirmed it's the 1st so why hide the cover? Lion?
I don't think we're seeing him for a LONG time, if at all. I think the only way we see the Lion is if they expand the Fallen into a full fledged Chaos faction.
Eldarain wrote: There is the interesting witholdal of the DA cover art. They've essentially confirmed it's the 1st so why hide the cover? Lion?
I don't think we're seeing him for a LONG time, if at all. I think the only way we see the Lion is if they expand the Fallen into a full fledged Chaos faction.
I hope we do get nice new art though.
They normally release the Primarch in a summer campaign thing. It’s possible the Lion was due in PA. But I think we are due for a second loyalist Primarch sooner rather than later. Chaos has two, loyalists have 1.
KingGarland wrote: Based on the imagery I would guess:
1. Chaos Space Marines
2. Maybe Gene stealer
As already mentioned, the imagery is just a place holder and is copied from the rulebook (Imperium and Xenos respectively).
It will be Dark Angel supplement and a Xenos book, of which nothing is known at this time.
How do you know IT WILL BE Dark Angel and Xenos?
B.c GW literally say it will be.
LOL so they say it somewhere (i suppose it must be a livefeed or something) and then make it 'REDACTED' in their offical statements on Warhammer-Community... Wow...
KingGarland wrote: Based on the imagery I would guess:
1. Chaos Space Marines
2. Maybe Gene stealer
As already mentioned, the imagery is just a place holder and is copied from the rulebook (Imperium and Xenos respectively).
It will be Dark Angel supplement and a Xenos book, of which nothing is known at this time.
How do you know IT WILL BE Dark Angel and Xenos?
B.c GW literally say it will be.
LOL so they say it somewhere (i suppose it must be a livefeed or something) and then make it 'REDACTED' in their offical statements on Warhammer-Community... Wow...
"Dark Angels fans won’t have to wait much longer – your codex supplement will be on its way early next year, along with the first xenos codex of 2021."
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Eldarain wrote: There is the interesting witholdal of the DA cover art. They've essentially confirmed it's the 1st so why hide the cover? Lion?
I don't think we're seeing him for a LONG time, if at all. I think the only way we see the Lion is if they expand the Fallen into a full fledged Chaos faction.
I hope we do get nice new art though.
They normally release the Primarch in a summer campaign thing. It’s possible the Lion was due in PA. But I think we are due for a second loyalist Primarch sooner rather than later. Chaos has two, loyalists have 1.
Yeah, and....? There should be 4 daemon primarchs before we get another loyalist. Fulgrim & Angron are very much a thing in "present day" 40k, so hopefully they'll get something before any more loyalists turn up. As much as i want Vulkan or the Khan now, things should get worse before they get better.
By the Warhammer Community, it will almost certainly be Dark Angels and a Xenos.
Picture is no guide for which Xenos, but the "new HQ" video probably does allow some speculation that Orks and Dark Eldar (as well as Sisters and AdMech) will get a 9th Ed. Codex fairly early (given there's a new Death Guard guy for the Death Guard release as well and assuming the shown HQs will be releases with the new Codexes, either individually or as part of a start-collecting-box, etc..). But it could be any Xenos.
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The model right before the ork is an AdMech character, right?
Did we already see it?
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
Jidmah wrote: The model right before the ork is an AdMech character, right?
Did we already see it?
We've not gotten a reveal on it as far as I know, not only is it Admech but given the detailing on the legs, it looks like a Skitarii of some sort. I know a LOT of admech players have been wanting a Skitarii Prime.
I suspect admech'll be reasonably early in 9th edition because in addition to this they've got a huge amount of new units to put into their codex. GW USEALLY doesn't like to have a codex that has a massive amount of new units in differant sources for a prolonged period of time
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And to maintain status quo: deadlocked, they'll have to add one. Plus they need to add another Loyalist so its not All Guilliman All The Time. Magnus has been a little absent after Mortarion showed up, so having him go hit DA would give them a new story line on the other side of the world. Historically it would make more sense to hit the Wolves, but they appear to be broadening the historical rivalries. Its also possible we get 1 new one of each, Lorgar hitting Wolves or DA for example.
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And to maintain status quo: deadlocked, they'll have to add one. Plus they need to add another Loyalist so its not All Guilliman All The Time. Magnus has been a little absent after Mortarion showed up, so having him go hit DA would give them a new story line on the other side of the world. Historically it would make more sense to hit the Wolves, but they appear to be broadening the historical rivalries. Its also possible we get 1 new one of each, Lorgar hitting Wolves or DA for example.
except the deamon primarchs have never gone away. so their appering as mini's doesn't shake up the status quo. meanwhile a loyalist primarch returning has HUUUGE implications for the status quo.
Look at it this way, if Fulgrim's mini pops up, it's big news for the fans sure, but for the setting it's less so as it's not going to, nesscarily have much narrative impact. A loyalist Primarch returning would change EVERYTHING.
if the Lion returned, for example, it'd COMPLETELY change the equation for dark angels. suddenly the whole "keeping secrets, secretly being a legion and hunting the chosen" could be upended. as obviously the dark angels are going to be more openly cordinating with their sucessors, and what if the Lion suddenly declared "we have no reason to keep this secret. this is a shame for the entire Imperium to share in and to work at crushing" or simply was like "yeah whatever feth the chosen, new priorities guys"
and of course another primarch could completely change the Political calculas of the IoM (which is still shaking from the return of Gulliman) in short a loyalist primarch's return would alter FAR more because they're really GONE
so yeah if GW is intreasted in maintaining the status quo they'll be less inclined to have another loyalist primarch return then a deamon primarch
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Nor have they been present. They've been offscreen McGuffins.
so their appering as mini's doesn't shake up the status quo. meanwhile a loyalist primarch returning has HUUUGE implications for the status quo.
Look at it this way, if Fulgrim's mini pops up, it's big news for the fans sure, but for the setting it's less so as it's not going to, nesscarily have much narrative impact. A loyalist Primarch returning would change EVERYTHING.
if the Lion returned, for example, it'd COMPLETELY change the equation for dark angels. suddenly the whole "keeping secrets, secretly being a legion and hunting the chosen"
Or double it down. The interesting take is if they tell the Lion, the Lion already knows all (he already knows some), the Lion figures it out(most likely), or they keep it a secret from him and now have to keep it a secret from him AND the IoM at large which would be far fetched but entertaining for a Black Library book or two. Also the Status Quo I was talking about was a combination of power quotiient - 3 Daemon Primarchs vs 1 Loyalist should be a very short lived face roll, and leaves one side screaming about Smurfs being the favorite while the rest are the red headed step children etc. They get far more by adding one of each, or evening both sides up - especially if they take a rival or other drama source for Gulliman.
could be upended. as obviously the dark angels are going to be more openly cordinating with their sucessors, and what if the Lion suddenly declared "we have no reason to keep this secret. this is a shame for the entire Imperium to share in and to work at crushing" or simply was like "yeah whatever feth the chosen, new priorities guys"
and of course another primarch could completely change the Political calculas of the IoM (which is still shaking from the return of Gulliman) in short a loyalist primarch's return would alter FAR more because they're really GONE
That's another Fluff reason to do it, and make it the Lion. Lion and Bobby G do not get along. For marketing/tabletop they need to keep the Loyalist/Daemon Primarchs pretty close to even. For drama they need to carefully balance rivalries as well.
so yeah if GW is intreasted in maintaining the status quo they'll be less inclined to have another loyalist primarch return then a deamon primarch
3 deamon primarchs vs one loyalist primarch is IRRELEVANT because they're not all in the same theatre of war. Also chaos isn't exactly united. I mean of the two deamon primarchs we have with plastic models right now one is a servant of the god of change, the other of the god of stagnation.
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KingGarland wrote: Based on the imagery I would guess:
1. Chaos Space Marines
2. Maybe Gene stealer
As already mentioned, the imagery is just a place holder and is copied from the rulebook (Imperium and Xenos respectively).
It will be Dark Angel supplement and a Xenos book, of which nothing is known at this time.
How do you know IT WILL BE Dark Angel and Xenos?
Let's see. GW said so? While GW might not tell everything when they do say something they aren't lying about it if it's not subjective thing(unit X is awesome! That's subjective thing and you can ignore it).
What you need to convince you if straight from company is not enough?
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