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OK, so we have a roadmap for the rest of the year, and a small glimpse into January (Dark Angels and a Xenos codex). We don't know if there are any specific models coming out with these 2 codexes (although the xenos one will probably at least get a new HQ if it happens to be Drukhari or orks), but I doubt DA will get anything specific (although I'd like to see a new Sammael...but, probably not happening).

Beyond that, what are your theories?

I think next year we will see Eldar get a nice range revamp with Striking Scorpions and Warp Spiders in plastic (mentioned in PA), plus Phoenix Lords for both. They could really go to town and release all the aspects remaining in plastic. That would be a BIG release.

i also think we re going to see new Catachans for the Guard, but not another new regiment.

As for Chaos....I think we will see either Emperor's Children or World Eaters get a separate codex, and possibly another Daemon primarch. i don't think we'll get both (unless one drops right at end of 2021), but not sure which one will be up on deck.

Your predictions?

Don't forget we know Kill Team is also coming, so they may do something with it (like the various 'lieutenants' coming that way)

Eldar- they need to do a major revamp for both Craftworld and Dark, but I'm not sure if they will. They also need to decide if they're going to do _anything_ with this whole Ynnari mess or just bury it as a bad idea.

EC & WE. If it happens at all, it'll be both. And it will happen before general the Chaos Marine codex so they can strip things out and not have to deal with them in the main book

I had suspected they do a Chaos Marine Supplement line, but Death Guard codex likely means they aren't, even for the non-godsworn leftovers.

Most of the rest, I honestly expect a few bits and bobs, but nothing major.

i also think we re going to see new Catachans for the Guard, but not another new regiment.

Not sure why. Cadians and Catachans are in the exact same state when it comes to model range.
I do think they need to do new infantry squads with full options, but that's pretty easy (guard infantry is at most 3 kits, which both cadians and catachans already have). I'd also really like to see a 'standard' regiment not tied to any particular world, rather than keep the devastated remnants of the old system. Specific OOP models = rules is even worse than colors=rules.

 bullyboy wrote:
OK, so we have a roadmap for the rest of the year, and a small glimpse into January (Dark Angels and a Xenos codex). We don't know if there are any specific models coming out with these 2 codexes (although the xenos one will probably at least get a new HQ if it happens to be Drukhari or orks), but I doubt DA will get anything specific (although I'd like to see a new Sammael...but, probably not happening).

Beyond that, what are your theories?

I think next year we will see Eldar get a nice range revamp with Striking Scorpions and Warp Spiders in plastic (mentioned in PA), plus Phoenix Lords for both. They could really go to town and release all the aspects remaining in plastic. That would be a BIG release.

i also think we re going to see new Catachans for the Guard, but not another new regiment.

As for Chaos....I think we will see either Emperor's Children or World Eaters get a separate codex, and possibly another Daemon primarch. i don't think we'll get both (unless one drops right at end of 2021), but not sure which one will be up on deck.

Your predictions?

Well we know there are a lot of generic marine items that have been previewed/teased. Even if the other supplements don't get anything specific, they'll be released with something from that list of some kind. But I still think some of them will get something specific. The BA index esecpailly was very thin even compared to the other Indexes.

The BA index was thin because they're fairly codex adherent. And even with that in mind, they're quite far ahead of Chapters like Raven Guard who actually have their own supplements right now...that just have a single character.

Craftworld Eldar need that big model revamp.

When 75% of their model range isn’t even plastic yet, it’s kinda crazy.
GW need to sort them out. It’s embarrassing.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The BA index was thin because they're fairly codex adherent. And even with that in mind, they're quite far ahead of Chapters like Raven Guard who actually have their own supplements right now...that just have a single character.

yeah the index gave us what we needed. blood angels simply don't have much to distingish them from codex marines. they have Death company units, their own characters and libby dreads.. and... thats about it yeah?

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The BA index was thin because they're fairly codex adherent. And even with that in mind, they're quite far ahead of Chapters like Raven Guard who actually have their own supplements right now...that just have a single character.

yeah the index gave us what we needed. blood angels simply don't have much to distingish them from codex marines. they have Death company units, their own characters and libby dreads.. and... thats about it yeah?

Depending on edition they may also have faster Rhino-chassis vehicles, the Baal Predator (which other books can partially imitate with FW books), the Sanguinary Guard (fancier Vanguard Veterans), and Chaplain/Death Company interactions.

 AnomanderRake wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The BA index was thin because they're fairly codex adherent. And even with that in mind, they're quite far ahead of Chapters like Raven Guard who actually have their own supplements right now...that just have a single character.

yeah the index gave us what we needed. blood angels simply don't have much to distingish them from codex marines. they have Death company units, their own characters and libby dreads.. and... thats about it yeah?

Depending on edition they may also have faster Rhino-chassis vehicles, the Baal Predator (which other books can partially imitate with FW books), the Sanguinary Guard (fancier Vanguard Veterans), and Chaplain/Death Company interactions.

true I'd forgotten about those,

Voss wrote:
EC & WE. If it happens at all, it'll be both. And it will happen before general the Chaos Marine codex so they can strip things out and not have to deal with them in the main book

That's a spicy take.

Considering GW have been willing to release a CSM dex multiple times after both the TS and DG dex, I wouldn't be surprised to only get either WE or EC. They could still release the CSM dex then come back around in 10e.

Though I would honestly prefer if they did just bang out both WE and EC this edition.

Voss wrote:
I had suspected they do a Chaos Marine Supplement line, but Death Guard codex likely means they aren't, even for the non-godsworn leftovers.

Those two things have absolutely no relation to one another...

The DG and TS 'dexs have almost nothing in common with the main CSM dex. It's not like SM where DA, BA, and SW where, despite their fans constant insistence, the vast majority of the units were shared and even the variant entries were just a couple of additional wargear options or an extra special rule.

It'd honestly be more nonsensical for DG and TS to become CSM supplements as they are.

Voss wrote:
Specific OOP models = rules is even worse than colors=rules.

Well good thing neither is actual rule then eh?

I could see 1K sons being folded back in, really their only unique units are some HQs, Tzangors and scarb occult termies, ohh and the vortex beast (which no one really sees as key to 1k sons identity anyway so if it was made avaliable to others no one'd care) that's 8 unique units. the space wolves got folded in and have over 3 times that many unique datasheets. but I agree death guard are waaaaay too differant

The overlap between codex CSM and DG:

Chaos Lord
Sorcerer
Daemon Prince
Cultists
Plague Marines
Rhino
Heldrake
Possessed
Spawn
Predator
Land Raider
Defiler

For TS:
Sorcerer
Cultists
Rubric Marines
Rhino
Helbrute
Spawn
Helbrute
Chaos Land Raider
Chaos Predator
Chaos Vindicator
Defiler
Forgefiend
Maulerfiend

Grey Knights have more overlap with Codex Space Marines that these two armies have with CSM, and no one would think about making a supplement out of them.

Deathwing Lieutenant in Terminator Armour. Only half-kidding. At least he might be useful. A kit for a Deathwing officer (Captain or Lieutenant) could be fun.

A Ravenwing Outrider Master with plasma talons and a sword could be spicy..

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
Deathwing Lieutenant in Terminator Armour. Only half-kidding. At least he might be useful. A kit for a Deathwing officer (Captain or Lieutenant) could be fun.

A Ravenwing Outrider Master with plasma talons and a sword could be spicy..

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Dark-Angels-Deathwing-Command-Squad
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Dark-Angels-Ravenwing-Command-Squad-2017

DA really don't need anything but plastic Azrael, Belial and Sammael.

I think 2021 NEEDS to bring out a range revamp for Eldar, it's been a joke for a while.

After that doesn't happen, probably see Guard get some new toys, add some superfluous units for Sisters or whatever is easiest.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I think 2021 NEEDS to bring out a range revamp for Eldar, it's been a joke for a while.

After that doesn't happen, probably see Guard get some new toys, add some superfluous units for Sisters or whatever is easiest.

The eldar range really needs at the very least the finecast curbed...

would also be nice to see a nod torwards corsairs and exodites but that would be just preference at this point..

guard needs it's core infantry updated but in a decent manner, (hopefully with a more common sense pricing point aswell).

GSC need more then anything new a dex.

 Jidmah wrote:
The overlap between codex CSM and DG:

Chaos Lord
Sorcerer
Cultists
Plague Marines
Rhino
Heldrake
Possessed
Spawn
Predator
Land Raider
Defiler

For TS:
Sorcerer
Cultists
Rubric Marines
Rhino
Helbrute
Spawn
Helbrute
Chaos Land Raider
Chaos Predator
Chaos Vindicator
Defiler
Forgefiend
Maulerfiend

Grey Knights have more overlap with Codex Space Marines that these two armies have with CSM, and no one would think about making a supplement out of them.

This is a wonderfully incomplete picture as well:

Dg specific:
Typhus
Mortation
Lord of corruption
Malignant plague caster
Blightlord terminators
Deathshroud
Death guard daemon Prince (different options and special rules)
Noxious blightbringer
Foul blightspawn
Biologus putrifier
Tallyman
Plague surgeon
Poxwalkers
Foetid blight drone
Myphitic blight hauler
Plagueburst crawler
All the nurgle daemons

Ts specific:
Magnus
Ahriman
Exalted sorceror
Scarab occult
Tzaangor shaman
Tzaangors
Tzaangor enlightened
Mutalith
All the tzeentch daemons

They dropped the ball diversifying the tsons imo, the need more stuff. This doesn't cover the things these factions aren't allowed from the chaos marine dex, its not as simple as 2-3 units like the marines.

An entire new range for Eldar should be in the works. Would love to see a new plastic Avatar, something along the size and stats of the new C'Tan.

However, being a bit cynical I can't see it happening. We might get a generic character, maybe even one more Aspect Warrior redone, but I have a feeling we'll be more likely to see new Primaris variants no-one asked for.

Before any other range gets anything, Eldar need a big redo.

Space Marines are currently rounding off their 2nd complete plastic army.
While I just did a rough count and 17 different Eldar units and characters are still finecast.

And the basic troopers are looking kinda old too.

For one of the core 40k races, its crazy how far behind Eldar have become over the years.

 bullyboy wrote:

I think next year we will see Eldar get a nice range revamp with Striking Scorpions and Warp Spiders in plastic (mentioned in PA), plus Phoenix Lords for both. They could really go to town and release all the aspects remaining in plastic. That would be a BIG release.

I mean...

...Would it?

Warp Spiders, Swooping Hawks, Striking Scorpions, Shining Spears, Dark Reapers, Fire Dragons, Karandras, Maugan Ra, Fuegan, Asurmen, New Warp Spider Lord. So, 11 kits, 5 of which are single character clampacks, if they were to do them all at once.

Let's compare to...

Gravis Captain, Bladeguard Ancient, Judicar, Assault Intercessors, Eradicators, Heavy Intercessors, Bladeguard Veterans, Outriders, Storm Speeder, Gladiator, Hammerfall Turret, Primaris Techmarine, Spacemario Kart. 13 kits, 4 of which are character clampacks, not counting the additional sprue molds that gw had to invest in to make monopose bladeguard, monopose Assault Ints, and monopose Eradicators.

It still remains wild to me that this game seemingly unique among 'ensemble/multifaction games' of all kinds there's just a bizarre assumption that one faction should both get and deserve 5x as many releases as any other given faction. It's like if in every MTG set 1/2 the cards were specifically Blue cards, and they'd been doing that for years and eveyrone just shrugged and went "Well of course 1/2 the cards are Blue, 1/3 of the playerbase plays Blue, they're by far the most popular!"


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Not Online!!! wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:

GSC need more then anything new a dex.

Yeah if I could just use the models and options GSC have without feeling like an absolute nincompoop that'd be greeeeeeeeeeeeat.

Nothing like choosing between a D3 shot flamer and a D6 shot flamer on the same model for the same 5 points. thanks, imperial weapons update

or getting a naked TH/SS terminator with 5+ armor, no invuln, -1W and no shock assault for like 2pts less than one of those space marine ones that gets a 1+ armor save.

the_scotsman wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

I think next year we will see Eldar get a nice range revamp with Striking Scorpions and Warp Spiders in plastic (mentioned in PA), plus Phoenix Lords for both. They could really go to town and release all the aspects remaining in plastic. That would be a BIG release.

I mean...

...Would it?

Warp Spiders, Swooping Hawks, Striking Scorpions, Shining Spears, Dark Reapers, Fire Dragons, Karandras, Maugan Ra, Fuegan, Asurmen, New Warp Spider Lord. So, 11 kits, 5 of which are single character clampacks, if they were to do them all at once.

Let's compare to...

Gravis Captain, Bladeguard Ancient, Judicar, Assault Intercessors, Eradicators, Heavy Intercessors, Bladeguard Veterans, Outriders, Storm Speeder, Gladiator, Hammerfall Turret, Primaris Techmarine, Spacemario Kart. 13 kits, 4 of which are character clampacks, not counting the additional sprue molds that gw had to invest in to make monopose bladeguard, monopose Assault Ints, and monopose Eradicators.

It still remains wild to me that this game seemingly unique among 'ensemble/multifaction games' of all kinds there's just a bizarre assumption that one faction should both get and deserve 5x as many releases as any other given faction. It's like if in every MTG set 1/2 the cards were specifically Blue cards, and they'd been doing that for years and eveyrone just shrugged and went "Well of course 1/2 the cards are Blue, 1/3 of the playerbase plays Blue, they're by far the most popular!"

Slightly disingenuous argument comparing a starter set launch and faction (who get a sleep of etb kits in addition to a normal release) to a mid edition faction refresh.

Never the less, no faction deserves more or less than any other and GW will just do what they do. It's either accept that and be happy with what kits a release brings, move on or live in perpetual disgruntlement.

Dear GW,

Could we please have the rest of our codex?


Kindest Regards

Dark Eldar players

Dudeface wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

I think next year we will see Eldar get a nice range revamp with Striking Scorpions and Warp Spiders in plastic (mentioned in PA), plus Phoenix Lords for both. They could really go to town and release all the aspects remaining in plastic. That would be a BIG release.

I mean...

...Would it?

Warp Spiders, Swooping Hawks, Striking Scorpions, Shining Spears, Dark Reapers, Fire Dragons, Karandras, Maugan Ra, Fuegan, Asurmen, New Warp Spider Lord. So, 11 kits, 5 of which are single character clampacks, if they were to do them all at once.

Let's compare to...

Gravis Captain, Bladeguard Ancient, Judicar, Assault Intercessors, Eradicators, Heavy Intercessors, Bladeguard Veterans, Outriders, Storm Speeder, Gladiator, Hammerfall Turret, Primaris Techmarine, Spacemario Kart. 13 kits, 4 of which are character clampacks, not counting the additional sprue molds that gw had to invest in to make monopose bladeguard, monopose Assault Ints, and monopose Eradicators.

It still remains wild to me that this game seemingly unique among 'ensemble/multifaction games' of all kinds there's just a bizarre assumption that one faction should both get and deserve 5x as many releases as any other given faction. It's like if in every MTG set 1/2 the cards were specifically Blue cards, and they'd been doing that for years and eveyrone just shrugged and went "Well of course 1/2 the cards are Blue, 1/3 of the playerbase plays Blue, they're by far the most popular!"

Slightly disingenuous argument comparing a starter set launch and faction (who get a sleep of etb kits in addition to a normal release) to a mid edition faction refresh.

Never the less, no faction deserves more or less than any other and GW will just do what they do. It's either accept that and be happy with what kits a release brings, move on or live in perpetual disgruntlement.

I'm not sure what a "sleep" is, I assume you meant like, a lot or something. I'm only counting each of the kits once, and just mentioning that in terms of financial investment, the ETB Bladeguard and Multipart Bladeguard are only 1 unit but they cost GW twice as much investment (or if you'd rather think of it this way: The investment into the multipart bladeguard is not justified by the fact the ETB bladeguard were in the starter box/released with the launch of the edition as that was a separate sprue mold unlike for example Necron Warriors who I believe had their full sprue in the starter)

But if you want to talk about a mid edition faction refresh idk we could talk about the shadowspear marine releases+codex 2.0 character releases which were a mid-edition faction refresh. Spoiler alert that was a way bigger release.

If you have some other way to let a company know that you're unhappy wtih the service they're providing within a capitalist economic system than withdrawing financial support from those products they put out that you don't like, letting them know you don't like them on social media, and requesting an alternative product that you would like and buy, let me know.

The idea that I and others frustrated with the constant stream of marine diarrhea are 'living in perpetual disgruntlement' is pretty funny, though. I don't even spend the majority of time I spend THINKING ABOUT 40K being annoyed at marines. Actually I spent all my painting/hobbying time of the last week painting up marine bits and magnetizing my deathwatch models.

the_scotsman wrote:

I mean...

...Would it?

Warp Spiders, Swooping Hawks, Striking Scorpions, Shining Spears, Dark Reapers, Fire Dragons, Karandras, Maugan Ra, Fuegan, Asurmen, New Warp Spider Lord. So, 11 kits, 5 of which are single character clampacks, if they were to do them all at once.

Let's compare to...

Gravis Captain, Bladeguard Ancient, Judicar, Assault Intercessors, Eradicators, Heavy Intercessors, Bladeguard Veterans, Outriders, Storm Speeder, Gladiator, Hammerfall Turret, Primaris Techmarine, Spacemario Kart. 13 kits, 4 of which are character clampacks, not counting the additional sprue molds that gw had to invest in to make monopose bladeguard, monopose Assault Ints, and monopose Eradicators.

Out of all those monoposes you mentioned, only Assault Intercessors and Outriders(and by comparison, the Necron Warriors and Skorpekh Destroyers+Plasmacyte) got their own sprues. The Captain, Overlord, Lieutenant, and Royal Wardens all have their own frames as well.
The Eradicators, Bladeguard, Bladeguard Ancient, Judicar, and Chaplain were all on one shared sprue. Same with the Necron Plasmancer, Cryptothralls, Skorpekh Lord, and Ressurector.

There's no guarantee of the Judicar getting a clamshell release, just like the Relictor for Stormcast still hasn't gotten one.

All that said:
There was a rumor going around that there's a "big release" coming for Aeldari in 2021. What that entails and if it's still on track or was even real in the first place? Who knows. There has been some talk about GW being happy with how the little 'army in a box' setups for Lumineth and Sisters have done, and I could see them using a similar method to at least make teaser samplers for Aeldari and other factions that players have felt are 'abandoned'.

Personal hope for Aeldari?
-Some dual kit Aspect Warriors. Fire Dragons and Dark Reapers have always, IMO, felt like they have enough shared parts that it could be done reasonably. Same with Warp Spiders and Scorpions.
-Rangers
-Shining Spears
-Updated Dire Avengers that dual kit with Swooping Hawks.

Exarchs/Phoenix Lords...I just don't know how to do it without it being some gigantic thing. I think that wouldn't be a terrible place to have them as part of their respective Temple boxes but that's about as much as I've got.

I'm hoping that next year will bring a big shift to the way the Guard army is setup. I harp on this all the time and I'll continue to do so until I finally just give up on Guard altogether...but without a seismic shift in the way the Guard units are organized or until modeling starts to mean something again, it's a catastrophically mismatched book.

I don't have to say Skitarii HQ as it looks like we're getting one.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I think 2021 NEEDS to bring out a range revamp for Eldar, it's been a joke for a while.

After that doesn't happen, probably see Guard get some new toys, add some superfluous units for Sisters or whatever is easiest.

The eldar range really needs at the very least the finecast curbed...

would also be nice to see a nod torwards corsairs and exodites but that would be just preference at this point..

guard needs it's core infantry updated but in a decent manner, (hopefully with a more common sense pricing point aswell).

GSC need more then anything new a dex.

The worst thing about the absence of Exodites is how little work it would be for GW to add them. If they could just dump the Daemons from AoS into 40k with almost no modification then doing the same thing with the AoS high elves seems like a no-brainer.

And yes, Eldar ... forgive me, "Aeldari" need a range-wide update more than anyone else.

 vipoid wrote:
Dear GW,

Could we please have the rest of our codex?


Kindest Regards

Dark Eldar players

Dear Dark Eldar (Drukhari TM) Players

Don't worry, your new codex is on the way, and rest assured our new intern has spent several hours working on it.

Here is a sneak peek:

KABAL OF THE FLAYED SKULL
- Re-roll hit rolls of 1 in close combat. This does not apply to Artefacts of Cruelty.

It still remains wild to me that this game seemingly unique among 'ensemble/multifaction games' of all kinds there's just a bizarre assumption that one faction should both get and deserve 5x as many releases as any other given faction. It's like if in every MTG set 1/2 the cards were specifically Blue cards, and they'd been doing that for years and eveyrone just shrugged and went "Well of course 1/2 the cards are Blue, 1/3 of the playerbase plays Blue, they're by far the most popular!"

There are a lot more marine players then eldar players. You think that a sports school is going to invest the same money in to something like gymnastics and football. And more then half the people play w40k version of blue. In fact from what people working for GW been saying about the marine sells, they out sell whole other game systems GW has.

Or to use an MtG example daddy Hasbro doesn't care as much about people playing legacy, comparing to those that buy all the vault sets .

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The BA index was thin because they're fairly codex adherent. And even with that in mind, they're quite far ahead of Chapters like Raven Guard who actually have their own supplements right now...that just have a single character.

yeah the index gave us what we needed. blood angels simply don't have much to distingish them from codex marines. they have Death company units, their own characters and libby dreads.. and... thats about it yeah?

They had half the strats of the other index, which had half the strats of a supplement. They ended up with 25% of what other Codex Compliants get in their supplement. They didn't even get some sort of place holder generics that have assorted versions in multiple supplements.

the_scotsman wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

I think next year we will see Eldar get a nice range revamp with Striking Scorpions and Warp Spiders in plastic (mentioned in PA), plus Phoenix Lords for both. They could really go to town and release all the aspects remaining in plastic. That would be a BIG release.

I mean...

...Would it?

Warp Spiders, Swooping Hawks, Striking Scorpions, Shining Spears, Dark Reapers, Fire Dragons, Karandras, Maugan Ra, Fuegan, Asurmen, New Warp Spider Lord. So, 11 kits, 5 of which are single character clampacks, if they were to do them all at once.

Let's compare to...

Gravis Captain, Bladeguard Ancient, Judicar, Assault Intercessors, Eradicators, Heavy Intercessors, Bladeguard Veterans, Outriders, Storm Speeder, Gladiator, Hammerfall Turret, Primaris Techmarine, Spacemario Kart. 13 kits, 4 of which are character clampacks, not counting the additional sprue molds that gw had to invest in to make monopose bladeguard, monopose Assault Ints, and monopose Eradicators.

It still remains wild to me that this game seemingly unique among 'ensemble/multifaction games' of all kinds there's just a bizarre assumption that one faction should both get and deserve 5x as many releases as any other given faction. It's like if in every MTG set 1/2 the cards were specifically Blue cards, and they'd been doing that for years and eveyrone just shrugged and went "Well of course 1/2 the cards are Blue, 1/3 of the playerbase plays Blue, they're by far the most popular!"

Slightly disingenuous argument comparing a starter set launch and faction (who get a sleep of etb kits in addition to a normal release) to a mid edition faction refresh.

Never the less, no faction deserves more or less than any other and GW will just do what they do. It's either accept that and be happy with what kits a release brings, move on or live in perpetual disgruntlement.

I'm not sure what a "sleep" is, I assume you meant like, a lot or something. I'm only counting each of the kits once, and just mentioning that in terms of financial investment, the ETB Bladeguard and Multipart Bladeguard are only 1 unit but they cost GW twice as much investment (or if you'd rather think of it this way: The investment into the multipart bladeguard is not justified by the fact the ETB bladeguard were in the starter box/released with the launch of the edition as that was a separate sprue mold unlike for example Necron Warriors who I believe had their full sprue in the starter)

But if you want to talk about a mid edition faction refresh idk we could talk about the shadowspear marine releases+codex 2.0 character releases which were a mid-edition faction refresh. Spoiler alert that was a way bigger release.

If you have some other way to let a company know that you're unhappy wtih the service they're providing within a capitalist economic system than withdrawing financial support from those products they put out that you don't like, letting them know you don't like them on social media, and requesting an alternative product that you would like and buy, let me know.

The idea that I and others frustrated with the constant stream of marine diarrhea are 'living in perpetual disgruntlement' is pretty funny, though. I don't even spend the majority of time I spend THINKING ABOUT 40K being annoyed at marines. Actually I spent all my painting/hobbying time of the last week painting up marine bits and magnetizing my deathwatch models.

Sorry the phone autocorrected "slew" to sleep. But yes, the atv, turret, chaplain on bike and outriders are etb or new player incentive kits which are part of a new edition starter support. Same for the heavy lokhust, skorpekhs and doomstalker.

Marines 2.0 release wave:
Captain
Lieutenant
Librarian
Eliminators
Invictor
Infiltrators
Impulsor
A start collecting box

Thats 3 clampacks and 4 kits with a start collecting box. Less than the proposed eldar list above unless I missed any. I've skipped the special characters as they were tied to the supplements not the codex.

The Newman wrote:

The worst thing about the absence of Exodites is how little work it would be for GW to add them. If they could just dump the Daemons from AoS into 40k with almost no modification then doing the same thing with the AoS high elves seems like a no-brainer.

Daemons have always been a big part of 40k though. They can manifest virtually everywhere.
Exodites are limited specifically to Exodite Worlds.

It's a similar issue as exists for adding Planetary Defense Forces or Arbites, not being a 'Big Name' force but instead something that is best represented by a unit at most in the main factions.

And yes, Eldar ... forgive me, "Aeldari" need a range-wide update more than anyone else.

Orks and Guard would like a word.

Aeldari definitely need help, but there's no "more than anyone else".