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Now, anyway.

They were quite oppressive for the first year plus.
And they pulled 'and a new chamber opens!' card at least one too many times.

If they roll out AoS 3rd edition without them, that'd be a huge plus.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
I loved all the Slaanesh stuff, though I do kinda wish we'd also got a unit that looked like the unarmoured mortals from Underworlds.

There is still a pretty good chance we will. The article said this was just a peek, and we saw what looks to be Slaangors, a Huge chariot or something and caster in the background. I wouldn't be suprised if there is a light infantry ala the warband style available too.

I’m wondering if we’re actually seeing a Slaaneshi Minotaur? Just looks bigger than I’d expect a Beastman to be?

They do seem a lot larger, but I can't tell if that's just the perspective or not.

All the Slaanesh stuff is glorious!

As far as Slaangors,
they could be minotaur sized.

Still hoping for light infantry (bowmen)
but these warriors are superb!

Voss wrote:
Now, anyway.

They were quite oppressive for the first year plus.
And they pulled 'and a new chamber opens!' card at least one too many times.

If they roll out AoS 3rd edition without them, that'd be a huge plus.

To be fair, there are still two chambers which have yet to be opened, so we'll see some new stuff eventually!

I don't mind the Stormcasts, they are pretty cool kits (especially the recent ones for the most recent chamber), and their place in the setting I like in the lore. But, I am pretty happy seeing whatever wacky stuff comes next. I do wonder when we'll get to a point where we will have too many factions, and when we'll go back and flesh out the existing ones.

Back to 40k, I am really interested to see the Death Guard and Drukhari books, as they will be cool indicators of what we'll expect moving forward. Especially crusade stuff!

tneva82 wrote:
One reason i have started to warmup to aos is because unlike40k one faction doesn't have oppressively one sided releases.

Yeah, if you ignore chaos daemons and slaves to darkness both getting gigantic pile of models since 2017, with just one of the two side games giving StD more releases than most 40K armies got in last decade, never mind what they got in AoS proper. Both armies each comfortably dwarfing SM releases in the same period. But hey, it wouldn't be Dakka without comically wrong beating of dead SM horse at least once per thread page, eh?

 Sasori wrote:


They do seem a lot larger, but I can't tell if that's just the perspective or not.

Indeed. Kinda hope they are Minotaur sized, for reasons.

Yeah, if you ignore chaos daemons and slaves to darkness both getting gigantic pile of models since 2017

they got greater demons, some single characters and one or two kits per faction, and then StD got a bunch of stuff (a lot of it completely unusuable in AoS like all the Warcry warbands). Nowhere near close the three armies' worth of primarines with individual chapter heroes along the way.

Cronch wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
I mean, I just think it’s a pause in Stormcast, there’ll still be loads more, they just have a lot of others that are to come out.
There are still several chambers to open or whatever aren’t there?

And i would expect more with aos 3rd cometh the july. New starter set, new sculps. Or they putting new sculp of liberators there ?-)

Please, yes. I know some people will not like this opinion, but the original warrior chamber stuff, especially liberators and judicators need a desperate resculpt. They are horribly bland and undetailed and it'd be a perfect chance to incorporate more of the lady stormcast they've shown in art.

I mean, sure, I'm not a fan of the Sigmarines to begin with, but can you really, objectively justify a resculpt of those guys over the plastic zombies, saurus warriors, skaven night runners, Chaos marauders, the dozens of metal and resin kits remaining in various ranges, and expanding some of the currently very limited factions with new kits?
That said, I'm sure you will half get your wish in that new figures are almost certainly on the horizon (judging by the lightning/comet arrows in the rumour engine recently), but redoing any of the existing kits surely can't be anywhere near the top of their agenda, and neither should it be. Besides, "undetailed" is probably exactly what they are meant to be anyway, accessible to new painters the same way basic Space Marines are.

 Irbis wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One reason i have started to warmup to aos is because unlike40k one faction doesn't have oppressively one sided releases.

Yeah, if you ignore chaos daemons and slaves to darkness both getting gigantic pile of models since 2017, with just one of the two side games giving StD more releases than most 40K armies got in last decade, never mind what they got in AoS proper. Both armies each comfortably dwarfing SM releases in the same period. But hey, it wouldn't be Dakka without comically wrong beating of dead SM horse at least once per thread page, eh?

Right. Since　2017. That's 3 years. You would expect lots of models.

Of course　sm got even more plus codexes that keep getting better and better. 8e codex better than anybody else and 9e just powered up.

But sure. Stick your head to sand. Typical marine white knight. Ignore that marines got more releases than daemons. White knights never make sense.

 Irbis wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One reason i have started to warmup to aos is because unlike40k one faction doesn't have oppressively one sided releases.

Yeah, if you ignore chaos daemons and slaves to darkness both getting gigantic pile of models since 2017, with just one of the two side games giving StD more releases than most 40K armies got in last decade, never mind what they got in AoS proper. Both armies each comfortably dwarfing SM releases in the same period. But hey, it wouldn't be Dakka without comically wrong beating of dead SM horse at least once per thread page, eh?

Wait what? I have no problems with marines and marine release, but as a Slaves to Darkness player, you clearly don’t know what you are talking about. Indomitus alone had 9 new marine units not to count the other related marine releases (gun turret, hover predator, Mario kart, heavy intercessors, and bunker)- 14 units total- not even including the multiparty kits on monopods stuff). That’s for just the Indomitus era releases and doesn’t count Vigilus Marines or the launch of the Primaris line in 2017. Slaves got 8 Warcry bands (which are specifically for another game with an after thought to AoS), three monsters in that same scenario, and a start collecting with mono build resculpts of Warriors and Knights and 1 new hero unit. That is a total of 14 kits (11 for another game) compared to 14 kits for JUST the Indomitus release- if you don’t count multipart kits of previous monopose stuff.

I don’t follow Daemons as closely but since 2017 Tzeentch had what? 4 Kits? Khorne has had nothing that I recall, and I think Nurgle got 3 or 4?

So maybe if you combine all the Chaos factions they would come close to the Primaris releases.

That’s not close to comically wrong.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Sasori wrote:


They do seem a lot larger, but I can't tell if that's just the perspective or not.

Indeed. Kinda hope they are Minotaur sized, for reasons.

Would be a nice touch with the Luminet aelves having their weird cow fetish

 Irbis wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One reason i have started to warmup to aos is because unlike40k one faction doesn't have oppressively one sided releases.

Yeah, if you ignore chaos daemons and slaves to darkness both getting gigantic pile of models since 2017, with just one of the two side games giving StD more releases than most 40K armies got in last decade, never mind what they got in AoS proper. Both armies each comfortably dwarfing SM releases in the same period. But hey, it wouldn't be Dakka without comically wrong beating of dead SM horse at least once per thread page, eh?

Chaos Demons no longer exists and is now 4 totally separate armies in AoS.

As for the last 3 years we've had several brand new armies and a spread of models being released for many - some like Skaven only got one new model. Slaves to Darkness have had a lot through Warcry, but their actual core models are very old. The Chaos Warriors and Knights got a half way update with new pushfit options in the getting started set, but the original models are still sold as individual packs. The Marauders are ancient and ugly models which is odd because the Warcrywarbans which fit the same niche, are amazing and should have replaced them, but GW has kept them just a cut below.

In general AoS has three army types. Small armies that need lots of new models; big armies that need lots of updates (skaven, seraphon) to bring models into modern plastics; and armies that are well ranged like Stormcast and Nighthaunt (both of which were the focus starter armies for the 2.0 edition).

AoS gets a decent spread of releases since 2.0 which is the best way to view AoS today since the period of time between launch and 2.0 was a mess of different policies, focuses, ideas and managers.

 Irbis wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One reason i have started to warmup to aos is because unlike40k one faction doesn't have oppressively one sided releases.

Yeah, if you ignore chaos daemons and slaves to darkness both getting gigantic pile of models since 2017, with just one of the two side games giving StD more releases than most 40K armies got in last decade, never mind what they got in AoS proper. Both armies each comfortably dwarfing SM releases in the same period. But hey, it wouldn't be Dakka without comically wrong beating of dead SM horse at least once per thread page, eh?

Yeah AoS gives Chaos a lot of releases, but it also gives every other faction plenty of them. 1.0 was stuffed to the brim with Order armies (Sigmarines, Fyreslayers, turning Witch Elves into basically a new army, Idoneth). Death was flagging behind and there was Nighthaunt and Ossiarchs. Now it's only really Destruction who're in a sore spot for releases and it's apparent they're trying to plug that gap with things like the Sons.

Slaves to Darkness only really got their Start Collecting. The War Cry warbands, despite GW trying to push them, are very obviously meant for... well, War Cry and were awkwardly stapled onto StD the same way Underworlds warbands are.

After 1.0 you never really hear anyone complain about Sigmarines anymore, or really any one faction being complained about their releases - save maybe Destruction, but most of those people accept they're going to get their time in the sun eventually. There's a good precedent as to why people complain about Marines and in AoS they haven't been given a reason to for Sigmarines anymore, so people don't.

 Irbis wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One reason i have started to warmup to aos is because unlike40k one faction doesn't have oppressively one sided releases.

Yeah, if you ignore chaos daemons and slaves to darkness both getting gigantic pile of models since 2017, with just one of the two side games giving StD more releases than most 40K armies got in last decade, never mind what they got in AoS proper. Both armies each comfortably dwarfing SM releases in the same period. But hey, it wouldn't be Dakka without comically wrong beating of dead SM horse at least once per thread page, eh?

So you are saying that 5 different factions along with a non-AoS game getting more releases combined than one army in 40k in a decade is somehow too much? What type of favorites are we playing here?

It also shows you don't really know Age of Sigmar if you think that Chaos Daemons are one faction like in Warhammer 40.000. HoS, BoK, DoT, and MoN are all different factions that play very differently from each other.

After seeing the new Sigvald's introduction video I cannot think of him as something else than a 90ies Anime/JRPG villain. The music is so totally Final Fantasy boss fight.

 Esmer wrote:
After seeing the new Sigvald's introduction video I cannot think of him as something else than a 90ies Anime/JRPG villain. The music is so totally Final Fantasy boss fight.

He looks a lot like the Warrior of Light, especially the FFXIV incarnation.

Am I the only one thinking that the voice over in that video sounds like Tom Baker?

 Overread wrote:
Am I the only one thinking that the voice over in that video sounds like Tom Baker?

Considering that Black Library used David Tennant and Billie Piper, it wouldn't surprise me.

If he isn't a Final Fantasy boss in his second form since the party defeated his warmup version, he's Zhang He from Dynasty Warriors.

All his talk of beauty and perfection... someone get him some claws to strap on his arms!

GW sure struggles to do faces well. Sigvald at least isn't quite as constipated as 90% of their releases are, though he's certainly not as pretty as he's supposed to be. But those Slaaneshi warriors...ooph, they're giving off a definite derpy Mutilators vibe.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 Esmer wrote:
After seeing the new Sigvald's introduction video I cannot think of him as something else than a 90ies Anime/JRPG villain. The music is so totally Final Fantasy boss fight.

He looks a lot like the Warrior of Light, especially the FFXIV incarnation.

Thats it! Since you put it that way, hes a must buy!

 Overread wrote:

In general AoS has three army types. Small armies that need lots of new models; big armies that need lots of updates (skaven, seraphon) to bring models into modern plastics; and armies that are well ranged like Stormcast and Nighthaunt (both of which were the focus starter armies for the 2.0 edition).

AoS gets a decent spread of releases since 2.0 which is the best way to view AoS today since the period of time between launch and 2.0 was a mess of different policies, focuses, ideas and managers.

Yeah this certainly seems to be the case as a new AoS player. So many factions feel either totally unfinished or totally out of date. But it is a great blessing that the game isn't as dominated by a single faction as 40k is.

yukishiro1 wrote:

 Overread wrote:

In general AoS has three army types. Small armies that need lots of new models; big armies that need lots of updates (skaven, seraphon) to bring models into modern plastics; and armies that are well ranged like Stormcast and Nighthaunt (both of which were the focus starter armies for the 2.0 edition).

AoS gets a decent spread of releases since 2.0 which is the best way to view AoS today since the period of time between launch and 2.0 was a mess of different policies, focuses, ideas and managers.

Yeah this certainly seems to be the case as a new AoS player. So many factions feel either totally unfinished or totally out of date. But it is a great blessing that the game isn't as dominated by a single faction as 40k is.

Yep. The bonuses are that the small armies do work well on the tabletop - heck Daughters of Khaine were very powerful and remain decent. So the small armies certainly work. Part of it is because AoS has far fewer niches for units, which works in its favour right now for those smaller armies. Of course as time passes I'd expect to see more niches appear. We might well see things like Cavalry become its own thing instead of what it is now, which is basically a faster troop choice.


The lore from BL is also very different. Whilst Stormcast do feature in a lot of stories, there are many many stories about and written from the perspective of the other races.