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 Eldarsif wrote:
So Death Guard just got a points updates and I get the feeling these are the same points we'll be seeing in the codex.

Plague Marines are up from 18 points to 21 for example which would be acceptable after the current changes.

poxwalkers down to 5 points.

Blightlord Terminators are now 40 points

Deathshrouds up to 50 points.

Nurgle Daemons seem to be completely gone.

When was this?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
So Death Guard just got a points updates and I get the feeling these are the same points we'll be seeing in the codex.

Plague Marines are up from 18 points to 21 for example which would be acceptable after the current changes.

poxwalkers down to 5 points.

Blightlord Terminators are now 40 points

Deathshrouds up to 50 points.

Nurgle Daemons seem to be completely gone.

When was this?

Just released on WarCom

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/76UtmPgtSCGKJAnW.pdf

Could be that they are only listing changed numbers in each codex as I am not seeing points for Heavy Slugger, Rothail Volley Gun and Plaguespitters under the PBC listing.

Eldarsif - thanks for the summary.

They also list something called Deadly Pathogens which is probably one of the new things in the codex:

Acidic Malady - 20 pts
Explosive Outbreak - 20 pts
Virulent Fever - 20 pts
Befouling Runoff - 10 pts
Unstable Sickness - 15 pts
Corrosive Filth - 20 pts
Viscous Death - 10 pts

the PBC with entropy has gone from 160 to 170
and with spitters from 170 to 165.
That seems fair considering the BS boost.

Interesting to note that chaos lord and sorcerer are 5pts more than the CSM version and defiler is a full 30pts more. Presumably they are all getting Disgustingly Resilient baked in?

DG helbrutes are 5pts more than CSM, maybe just to account for contagions?

 Eldarsif wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
So Death Guard just got a points updates and I get the feeling these are the same points we'll be seeing in the codex.

Plague Marines are up from 18 points to 21 for example which would be acceptable after the current changes.

poxwalkers down to 5 points.

Blightlord Terminators are now 40 points

Deathshrouds up to 50 points.

Nurgle Daemons seem to be completely gone.

When was this?

Just released on WarCom

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/76UtmPgtSCGKJAnW.pdf

Could be that they are only listing changed numbers in each codex as I am not seeing points for Heavy Slugger, Rothail Volley Gun and Plaguespitters under the PBC listing.

That's the new method for points. If they don't have a price then they're essentially "free" options. They don't cost extra.

Both Plague Marines and Possessed have their old price for the Undivided Legions. I guess that means they won't be getting their additional wounds in a FAQ. Also it looks like Predators are getting separate datasheets for lascannon and autocannon models in the Death Guard codex just like loyalists.

 Eldarsif wrote:
They also list something called Deadly Pathogens which is probably one of the new things in the codex:

Acidic Malady - 20 pts
Explosive Outbreak - 20 pts
Virulent Fever - 20 pts
Befouling Runoff - 10 pts
Unstable Sickness - 15 pts
Corrosive Filth - 20 pts
Viscous Death - 10 pts

Yes, these increase the effectiveness of one character model's plague weapons.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/12/08/death-guard-rules-preview-part-2-deadly-pathogens/

 Eldarsif wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
So Death Guard just got a points updates and I get the feeling these are the same points we'll be seeing in the codex.

Plague Marines are up from 18 points to 21 for example which would be acceptable after the current changes.

poxwalkers down to 5 points.

Blightlord Terminators are now 40 points

Deathshrouds up to 50 points.

Nurgle Daemons seem to be completely gone.

When was this?

Just released on WarCom

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/76UtmPgtSCGKJAnW.pdf

Could be that they are only listing changed numbers in each codex as I am not seeing points for Heavy Slugger, Rothail Volley Gun and Plaguespitters under the PBC listing.

New codex　style. Better get used to it. Base　cost　is cheapest configuration. Rest upgrades. Not neccessarily default on datasheet for some reason like necron command barge has gauss in datasheet and　can change　it　to tesla but points has it with tesla and gauss as　upgrade.

0 cost weapons not listed thus. And different units can　have different costs in this format.

Possessed max unit is 10 @ 24ppm. 240pts. for 30 T5 wounds with 4 attacks each, -1 damage and -1 T bubble? Yes please.

 puma713 wrote:
Possessed max unit is 10 @ 24ppm. 240pts. for 30 T5 wounds with 4 attacks each, -1 damage and -1 T bubble? Yes please.

They do sound awesome but I can't face buying those models.

 lare2 wrote:

 puma713 wrote:
Possessed max unit is 10 @ 24ppm. 240pts. for 30 T5 wounds with 4 attacks each, -1 damage and -1 T bubble? Yes please.

They do sound awesome but I can't face buying those models.

My plan later in the year is to make some more Nurgly Possessed conversions. The current Possessed models look totally wrong for a DG army (even if you liked the models, though I don’t).

 lare2 wrote:

 puma713 wrote:
Possessed max unit is 10 @ 24ppm. 240pts. for 30 T5 wounds with 4 attacks each, -1 damage and -1 T bubble? Yes please.

They do sound awesome but I can't face buying those models.

I'm kitbashing Plague Marines, Possessed and Putrid Blightkings for mine. Expensive, yes, but should be worth it.

Biasn wrote:
Damn i hope Thousand Sons get atleast half the love DG gets.

Unlikely, since GW generally treats Tzeentch like a red-headed stepchild.

 lare2 wrote:

 puma713 wrote:
Possessed max unit is 10 @ 24ppm. 240pts. for 30 T5 wounds with 4 attacks each, -1 damage and -1 T bubble? Yes please.

They do sound awesome but I can't face buying those models.

Replacing possessed with some awesome third party model is probably the easiest thing to do. Especially if you only need 10 now.

Also, death guard cultists are only 5ppm, compared to regular csm cultists which are 6ppm.. really looking forward for the new codex..

 Jidmah wrote:

 lare2 wrote:

 puma713 wrote:
Possessed max unit is 10 @ 24ppm. 240pts. for 30 T5 wounds with 4 attacks each, -1 damage and -1 T bubble? Yes please.

They do sound awesome but I can't face buying those models.

Replacing possessed with some awesome third party model is probably the easiest thing to do. Especially if you only need 10 now.

Please suggest some? I am using older Chaos bits and modern Plague Marines, and adding some tentacles from various places, and trying out some wierd heads, so.. I am needing 2 more guys.. (not running 10, but 7, as it should be, lol)

Has anything been released about what the orb of dessication is on LoC?

Also, Chimes of contagion on Deathshroud
Sigil of Decay on PMs

Are DG possessed definitely 3 wounds?

Abaddon303 wrote:
Are DG possessed definitely 3 wounds?

Yes, it said so in one of the articles.

I thought that was just T5 and disgustingly resilient

 puma713 wrote:

 lare2 wrote:

 puma713 wrote:
Possessed max unit is 10 @ 24ppm. 240pts. for 30 T5 wounds with 4 attacks each, -1 damage and -1 T bubble? Yes please.

They do sound awesome but I can't face buying those models.

I'm kitbashing Plague Marines, Possessed and Putrid Blightkings for mine. Expensive, yes, but should be worth it.

Now that you've mentioned it, I am going to make mine out of Putrid Blightkings. Anything but the current sculpts.

Abaddon303 wrote:
I thought that was just T5 and disgustingly resilient

Nope:

When you consider that Plague Marines, Death Guard Possessed, Blightlord Terminators, and Deathshroud Terminators also gain an additional Wound in the new codex,

So we can assume that blightlords lost their 4++ they went down in points and gained a wound and more movement. That doesn’t seem right. Who knows about the deathshroud who went up in points they may still have the 4++

broxus wrote:
So we can assume that blightlords lost their 4++ they went down in points and gained a wound and more movement. That doesn’t seem right. Who knows about the deathshroud who went up in points they may still have the 4++

I would like that on deathshroud but doubt it. They have historically been overpriced and their ws went to 2+. TBF they only went up by a few points and most of that is the new cost of their flamers (Used to be free and now 5pts)

broxus wrote:
So we can assume that blightlords lost their 4++ they went down in points and gained a wound and more movement. That doesn’t seem right. Who knows about the deathshroud who went up in points they may still have the 4++

I would assume they are 5++ now.

Yea I’m tracking that with the baby flamers they now cost 170pts so a 29pt increase almost 10pts each.

broxus wrote:
Yea I’m tracking that with the baby flamers they now cost 170pts so a 29pt increase almost 10pts each.

No, they are 50pts per terminator. That includes all wargear.
The Champion can take an additional flamer for +5 points.

So 150 for 3 or 155 if champ takes second flamer.

170 is only if they bring the new toy Chimes of contagion which we have no idea what it does

Fingers crossed the Chimes of Contagion gives a bonus to/re-roll for charging

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Fingers crossed the Chimes of Contagion gives a bonus to/re-roll for charging

That would be nice, but considering the name I'm guessing it gives some extra range to our contagions. Making them true heralds of Mortarion like they are in the lore.

LOC didn’t go up in points if you took the Plagurdeaper, he is still 120pts with a 5pt optional upgrade.