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Man, life for a Death Guard cultist must suck.
You either catch the plague and become a Poxwalker, or you sit on a shelf because hot damn GW doesn't want anyone to use you.

That multiple elites I would imagine will mean bioligous, tallyman, plague surgeon, foul blightspawn will all be included.

Love leaks - bring on more!

 Sasori wrote:

Where did these leaks come from??

At least this makes Mortarion have a bit of a cost.

Where are you finding these photos?

broxus wrote:
Where are you finding these photos?

Various Discords.

Thanks a lot for posting Sasori.

Morarion's rules make him odd to play. Not only does he have to be your warlord, you cannot field battalions any more because you can only have one lord and not daemon princes, plague casters or sorcerers.

If the Biologus is Core the detachment would be legal, right? 1 PM unit, 1 Biologus would allow for two poxwalker units.

All of this is from 4chan and mostly not confirmed:

A Virion is just a virus really
It lets you take a combination of three:
Tallyman, Plague Surgeon, Blightbringer, Blightspawn and Putrifier

Poxwalkers
m4", ws4+, bs-, s3, t4, w1, a2, ld4, sv7+
Special rules:
+1 to hit in units of 10x or more.
Weapons have plague weapon rule.
Immune to morale.

Typhus already been leaked, but his buff to Poxwalkers is +1 WS, +1 S, within 6".

No core on MBH. And sorry, Helbrutes also core.
Lord of contagion does not have a re-roll 1 aura.

Disgustingly Resiliant, Revoltingly Resiliant and Monstrously Resiliant all give -1 damage and all can stack.

FNP not that I am seeing, but buffed invuns are still a thing like from last PA book.
Plague sprayers are also now a set strength (5) and re roll 1s to wound. Buffed range too.

Mortarion gets 3 warlord traits and can pick a fourth.
One of those traits is "This model cannot be wounded on better than a 4+"

Foul Blightspawns hasn't really changed, Plague Surgeon has changed a lot, I will try get a picture as its a mouthfull. Biologus Putrifier now has his own strat linked to him allowing a unit to throw all its blight grenades at once

Lord of Virulance has the exact same statline as lord of Contagion. Difference is he has the already previewed plague spewer, a power fist with plague weapon rule, and the special rules already previewed. Nothing more.

Cataphractii still a 4++.

Hateful assault still exists.

I love the way it says if battle forged the force gains these 3 abilities. 2 of which are actually limitations haha

I really hope not all Lords are Lords of Destruction otherwise we are VERY limited on HQ choices.

We have Chaos Lord, Terminator Chaos Lord, LoC, LoV
Sorcerer, Terminator Sorcerer, Malignant Plaguecaster
Daemon Prince

I think that's them all??

Combinging Morty's rule of No psyker units, it means they can't all have that rule otherwise anything above a patrol detatchment is impossible to fill HQ slots.

If we have Morty, only HQs allowed are the various Chaos Lords.

Edit: Ninja'd by Jidmah there!

Doohicky wrote:
I love the way it says if battle forged the force gains these 3 abilities. 2 of which are actually limitations haha

I really hope not all Lords are Lords of Destruction otherwise we are VERY limited on HQ choices.

We have Chaos Lord, Terminator Chaos Lord, LoC, LoV
Sorcerer, Terminator Sorcerer, Malignant Plaguecaster
Daemon Prince

I think that's them all??

Combinging Morty's rule of No psyker units, it means they can't all have that rule otherwise anything above a patrol detatchment is impossible to fill HQ slots.

If we have Morty, only HQs allowed are the various Chaos Lords.

Edit: Ninja'd by Jidmah there!

You would have to take chaos lord and a LoC to make the battalion

broxus wrote:


Cataphractii still a 4++.

Hateful assault still exists.

If true then the one time in my life I was optimistic I have been vindicated! Maybe I should try this positivity stuff more often!

broxus wrote:

All of this is from 4chan and mostly not confirmed:

A Virion is just a virus really
It lets you take a combination of three:
Tallyman, Plague Surgeon, Blightbringer, Blightspawn and Putrifier

Poxwalkers
m4", ws4+, bs-, s3, t4, w1, a2, ld4, sv7+
Special rules:
+1 to hit in units of 10x or more.
Weapons have plague weapon rule.
Immune to morale.

Typhus already been leaked, but his buff to Poxwalkers is +1 WS, +1 S, within 6".

No core on MBH. And sorry, Helbrutes also core.
Lord of contagion does not have a re-roll 1 aura.

Disgustingly Resiliant, Revoltingly Resiliant and Monstrously Resiliant all give -1 damage and all can stack.

FNP not that I am seeing, but buffed invuns are still a thing like from last PA book.
Plague sprayers are also now a set strength (5) and re roll 1s to wound. Buffed range too.

Mortarion gets 3 warlord traits and can pick a fourth.
One of those traits is "This model cannot be wounded on better than a 4+"

Foul Blightspawns hasn't really changed, Plague Surgeon has changed a lot, I will try get a picture as its a mouthfull. Biologus Putrifier now has his own strat linked to him allowing a unit to throw all its blight grenades at once

Lord of Virulance has the exact same statline as lord of Contagion. Difference is he has the already previewed plague spewer, a power fist with plague weapon rule, and the special rules already previewed. Nothing more.

Cataphractii still a 4++.

Hateful assault still exists.

Glad were finally putting that to bed.

PRetty sure that 4chan is bunk. The stuff about morty earlier in the thread came from the source that leaked the images.

EDIT: I even posted the deatchment rules that don't show hateful assault.

Wait, so 11 poxies hitting on 2s with typhus near. Nah...

According to that a large squad of poxwalkesr with typhus nearby hits on 2+!

 Sasori wrote:
PRetty sure that 4chan is bunk. The stuff about morty earlier in the thread came from the source that leaked the images.

EDIT: I even posted the deatchment rules that don't show hateful assault.

The detachment rules also don't show malicious volleys, right?

Wow... no psychers if you run Morty. I mean, I love Lords and all but not being able to run a Prince is a hefty cost

So, no malicious volley, hateful assault and DTTFE?

That last list is pretty garbage. I wouldn't trust much of that.

Yea meaning it is likely hateful Assault is still around. Maybe on the data sheets of core units.

They previewed malicious volleys. They showed the rule.

There is a missing page and dollars to donuts its "Bubonic Astartes gain ..."

PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
They previewed malicious volleys. They showed the rule.

There is a missing page and dollars to donuts its "Bubonic Astartes gain ..."

You are likely right!

Notice that 4chan leak repeats a bunch of stuff off warhammer community articles we have seen weeks ago, sprinkles in some of the confirmed leaked images and then focuses on unconfirmed crap that people were concerned about.

Oh look, it says hateful assault, cataphractii and grenading all still exist!

I'd wait for more pics before I believed any of that.

Especially pox walkers that hit on 2's and wound marines on 4's rerolling.

 lare2 wrote:
Wow... no psychers if you run Morty. I mean, I love Lords and all but not being able to run a Prince is a hefty cost

Word is going around that that rule is fake. Guess we'll see.

That 4chan list is clearly a poor troll.

The only full statline is the Poxwalkers, the Virion rule is self-evident, and the rest is unsubstantiated tripe that frequently contradicts what we already know.

Nah.

If Morty is as busted as all the data is adding up to, I actually hope thats true. He really doesn't need to be warp timed into the enemy lines turn 1.

Anyone else think explosive outbreak on a deathshroud champ or a LoC assuming they get same sweeping blow could be an idea?
Would be like getting DTTFE again, albeit on only a single model.

Now it is a guaranteed full 6" radius and guaranteed hits on non character infantry and anything else on a 2+. Plus it's a 1/6 chance of D6 MWs.

That's a pretty massive increase in consistency and damage caused.

But like I said, it's not just about the damage its the disruption.

The new marine one is straight up awful. The new DG one is a little better but with both the new Marine one and the new DG one - the damage output just isn't high enough to make any sense. I can't think of too many units that are going to be scared enough of it to try to move out of the way. Especially not with so many 2+w models hitting the table now. I can't think of a single unit in any of my armies that I wouldn't happily just sit there and take the damage from. Yeah, rolling a 6 could hurt some units, but even then, I'll take that tradeoff given how much CP it costs. It feels like they should all just be removed.

I used to use the marine one for no other reason than because it was fun, but in 9th? Having to wait a full turn? Nah. Will likely be the same with the DG one even though it's a little better. It's just not worth the price imo.