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2021/01/15 16:29:42
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Why do I feel like there are too many situational rules being thrown together. Its like you have to remember:
in situation A, this rule applies. in situation B, another rule applies, in situation C, yet another rule applies.
There are warlord auras, contagions of nurgle, disgustingly resilient, remorseless, deathly pathogens, Inexorable advance, malicious volleys.
And there is also Core, non-core, and we haven't considered whether stuff like DTTFE and hateful assault will be in or not. Its like there are now so many rules applying in different situations.
We pay for all these in terms of the points, but I will bet a casual player is going to forget half of them because he plays only once a month...
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2021/01/15 16:35:10
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Because gamers all complain constantly if the army they play doesn't gain another shiny thing every release.
A few editions of that crap and you get to enjoy these levels of bloat.
Psychic awakening accelerated it and made it arrive even faster too.
It's kind of hilarious how many rules a bog standard unit of plague marines have now.
It's narrative though, because now YOU get to be the tallyman!
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2021/01/15 16:39:52
Subject: Re:Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Reddit leaks)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Sasori wrote:
At least this makes Mortarion have a bit of a cost.
The different font for the heading (compared to the other leaked page), the lack of capitalisation on Supreme Command Detachment, and the typo ("in you army") make me think this one may be a fake.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
 Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2021/01/15 16:45:51
Subject: Re:Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Reddit leaks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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 Dysartes wrote:
The different font for the heading (compared to the other leaked page), the lack of capitalisation on Supreme Command Detachment, and the typo ("in you army") make me think this one may be a fake.
I am now disgusted with myself for missing all those things
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2021/01/15 16:46:27
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Guys, the first rule of the internet is never believe anything that originated from 4chan, especially if it contradicts known information (pox walkers)
Eldenfirefly wrote:Why do I feel like there are too many situational rules being thrown together. Its like you have to remember:
in situation A, this rule applies. in situation B, another rule applies, in situation C, yet another rule applies.
There are warlord auras, contagions of nurgle, disgustingly resilient, remorseless, deathly pathogens, Inexorable advance, malicious volleys.
And there is also Core, non-core, and we haven't considered whether stuff like DTTFE and hateful assault will be in or not. Its like there are now so many rules applying in different situations.
We pay for all these in terms of the points, but I will bet a casual player is going to forget half of them because he plays only once a month...
A pile of small, interlocking situational rules is pretty much the army style. That's the reason why I started playing them in the first place 
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2021/01/15 16:47:23
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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See the typo makes it look real to me lol. Its the fact that it would stop people buying models that makes me think its fake
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2021/01/15 16:52:08
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Is anyone else a little surprised to see that the Tallyman didn't become a PRIEST? I would have thought our Chaplain equivalent would get his own d3 table, or something.
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Triggerbaby wrote:In summary, here's your lunch and ask Miss Creaver if she has aloe lotion because I have taken you to school and you have been burned.
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I too can prove pretty much any assertion I please if I don't count all the evidence that contradicts it.
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2021/01/15 16:53:38
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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 MinMax wrote:Is anyone else a little surprised to see that the Tallyman didn't become a PRIEST? I would have thought our Chaplain equivalent would get his own d3 table, or something.
Do we know he didn't?
My apologies if stuff has been posted for him. (For the record I assumed he hadn't)
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2021/01/15 17:00:14
Subject: Re:Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Reddit leaks)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2021/01/15 17:06:03
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2021/01/15 17:06:44
Subject: Re:Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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A pile of small, interlocking situational rules is pretty much the army style. That's the reason why I started playing them in the first place
To a point. I just hope it doesn't all come together like Command Protocols - ie - an excessive amount of conditions that must be met, in order to gain semi-random buffs that are not generally worth the trouble.
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Edit: I just googled ablutions and apparently it does not including dropping a duece. I should have looked it up early sorry for any confusion. - Baldsmug
Psiensis on the "good old days":
"Kids these days...
... I invented the 6th Ed meta back in 3rd ed.
Wait, what were we talking about again? Did I ever tell you about the time I gave you five bees for a quarter? That's what you'd say in those days, "give me five bees for a quarter", is what you'd say in those days. And you'd go down to the D&D shop, with an onion in your belt, 'cause that was the style of the time. So there I was in the D&D shop..." |
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2021/01/15 17:07:54
Subject: Re:Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
Alabama
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/01/15 17:08:10
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2021/01/15 17:09:59
Subject: Re:Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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The images I posted above put the nail in the coffin for the 4chan leak.
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2021/01/15 17:11:27
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Those 4chan leaks confirmed fake now, can see mention of the Lord of Contagion re-rolling 1s, etc
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The Circle of Iniquity 
The Fourth Seal 
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2021/01/15 17:21:45
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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This is actually looking pretty good.
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Chaos | Tau | Space Wolves
NH | SCE | Nurgle
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2021/01/15 17:26:26
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Man if that strat to turn melee weapons into flails is legit I want to use it on my Deathshroud at least once just to see the looks on my friends' faces.
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2021/01/15 17:26:52
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Also no hateful assault and Mortarion gets the 5+++
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2021/01/15 17:28:22
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Eternal Hatred seems to be replacement for VotLW. Double the CP and only on Bubonic infantry.
I see Cloud of flies more expensive too.
Not a surprise, any strats that were auto take were bound to go up
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2021/01/15 17:31:11
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Doohicky wrote:Eternal Hatred seems to be replacement for VotLW. Double the CP and only on Bubonic infantry.
I see Cloud of flies more expensive too.
Not a surprise, any strats that were auto take were bound to go up
And they gave us a ton more CP to start with. Remember when we would start with like 5??
Where are people seeing the LoC gives a reroll 1 aura.
This should be only about 1/2 our strategems.
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2021/01/15 17:34:51
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Been Around the Block
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The Eternal Hatred cost and restrictions probably make sense, but still sting a bit when compared to the Salamanders Betterans of the Long War strat.
Im not sure overwhelmed. I like that the army strats and rules really lean into the close range focus though. Things like the arch contaminator change are well thought out. No more AC lord sitting next to PBCs.
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2021/01/15 17:35:02
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Diseased effluents looks brilliant. Risk vs reward, but I like that
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2021/01/15 17:36:00
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Rotten Constitution for Morty as his 4th should help keep him alive.
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Chaos | Tau | Space Wolves
NH | SCE | Nurgle
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2021/01/15 17:37:26
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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 lare2 wrote:Rotten Constitution for Morty as his 4th should help keep him alive.
He cannot take that one. Check his WarCom datasheet.
I thought the same thing, but alas.
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Clocks for the clockmaker! Cogs for the cog throne! |
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2021/01/15 18:02:38
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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 JNAProductions wrote: lare2 wrote:Rotten Constitution for Morty as his 4th should help keep him alive.
He cannot take that one. Check his WarCom datasheet.
I thought the same thing, but alas.
That makes me cry a little  Thanks for pointing it out though.
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Chaos | Tau | Space Wolves
NH | SCE | Nurgle
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2021/01/15 18:03:14
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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As far as I can see we are just missing the wargear strats (And maybe some strategic ploys)
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2021/01/15 18:30:48
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Some DG expert enlighten me on it all, but to me they look insanely powerful.
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2021/01/15 18:31:04
Subject: Re:Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I know it is not really about DG, but seeing VotlW renamed "Eternal Hatred" makes me hopeful that in the future CSM Codex, VotlW/Eternal Hatred will also be accessible to Renegades Chapters.
Because yes, as insane as it might be, some people do enjoy the renegades (such as me  ).
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2021/01/15 18:53:08
Subject: Re:Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Deathguard are looking insane right now.
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2021/01/15 18:55:07
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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So much for a Poxwalker focused army.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
 jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
 vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
 MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
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2021/01/15 18:55:10
Subject: Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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I think its less that any particular stratagem is crazy OP and more like DG have an enormous toolkit to pull from now.
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2021/01/15 18:58:36
Subject: Re:Codex:Death Guard pre-orders on January 16th (Jan15th: Many leaks)
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
Alabama
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I love the thought of Heroically Intervening with a Fleshmower drone.
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