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Oh nice!

Is that the edition that introduced Archaon? Where a Chaos Army first picked a Champion, and had to match a points spend in units?

I think that's 5th edition. 4th was where you got Arbaal the Undefeated, Aekold Helbrass, Egrimm van Horstmann and all those dudes.

I’d have to check the shelf. I recall having 2 sets of chaos rules in 5th, which was when I played the bulk of my WHFB (only a little into 6th). It might have been I started with the 4th box, which had all sorts of cards and chits and stuff. It’s been a while.

I disliked the retinue system where you picked a HQ and then an equal number of points of followers. Very fluffy, but in an era of herohammer made it real hard to get your character points settled.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Who’s a lucky Sad Old Git? I are!

Took delivery today of “White Dwarf Presents Warhammer 40,000 Battles”.

Razorbacks! Leman Russ Battle Tank! Bunker! Many battle reports!

Joy and rapture. Plus for a damned good price of £25.

That’s just Codex Space Woofs to go and I’ve a complete set.

I very, very (very!) nearly bought the Angels of Death codex the other day for what I thought was an absolutely unbelievable price of £15.. only to notice at the last moment it was for a beer coaster with the AoD cover printed on it

I will someday get Angels of Death, but it needs me to coincide being sozzled and browsing on eBay at the same time

Oh I’ve almost fallen into that very same trap. Dodgy gits on eBay.

Noticed that yesterday. I decided to stick my nose onto ebay (something I don’t normally do) looking for a copy of the 2nd ed. Ultramarine book just for completeness. Bit of a minefield. Also, way to expensive for a whim.

One of the things I learned being an infantryman in the army is to be patient he wait for your moment to take the shot. This applies to eBay as well, as I am not nearly fomo suffering enough to pull the trigger on something that costs way more than I feel I should spend for it. The minute you get past the whole fomo thing, is the minute that you will be able to wait and find something for far cheaper. Had I bid on ebay? Then I would have paid $40 for the amended 3rd Edition Dark Eldar Codex instead of the 14 I paid by being patient.

 Pacific wrote:
I very, very (very!) nearly bought the Angels of Death codex the other day for what I thought was an absolutely unbelievable price of £15.. only to notice at the last moment it was for a beer coaster with the AoD cover printed on it

Oh yes I hate those buggers, they had me thinking I'd found a reasonably priced 2nd ed Ork codex. The disappointment!

The sad thing is that back around 5th/6th edition, 2nd ed codexes were routinely selling for $5 a pop on eBay. I'm still kicking myself for not picking up the Sisters codex (the only one I'm missing, along with the Battles book) back then...

 insaniak wrote:
The sad thing is that back around 5th/6th edition, 2nd ed codexes were routinely selling for $5 a pop on eBay. I'm still kicking myself for not picking up the Sisters codex (the only one I'm missing, along with the Battles book) back then...

I caught the tail end of the Third Edition cheapness, as now all the Third Edition codices are extremely expensive.

Definitely pays to be patient, and a bit creative.

For instance, I found really reasonably priced copies of Waaaargh! The Orks and ‘Ere We Go! on eBay a few years back, well under most asking prices. But, the seller wouldn’t ship internationally.

So I got in touch and asked if he’d be happy to post to a nominated Canadian address, which he was. Member of the Loot Group also agreed, and despite paying for postage twice, I still ended up with a decent bargain.

It does help I’m happy to buy slightly tatty copies. Provided the pages are still bound, I can live with the odd tear or busted spine.

Yeah I noticed the prices for 3e stuff on ebay are really high. Tbh, I think most warhammer stuff on ebay seems extremely expensive, sometimes above retail for stuff that's actually available on retail.

I'm alright with digital copies of things that are out of print at this point. If I want it physically I'll print it out and bind it myself. Be nice to have the actual books, but not to the point I'm willing to spend big money on them, especially as I think I'm not that likely to actually play 3e these days.

Oooh. In potentially exciting news, it’s annual bonus next pay day, and I’ve found out my appraisal rating is “significantly exceeding expectations”. Which should mean I get 150% of bonus.

That neatly brings Titan Legions into “possibly affordable”. I mean, it still seems to be a ridiculous £400 for a complete set. But I think I’ll be able to do the books, which are the main thing.

 Da Boss wrote:
Yeah I noticed the prices for 3e stuff on ebay are really high. Tbh, I think most warhammer stuff on ebay seems extremely expensive, sometimes above retail for stuff that's actually available on retail.

I'm alright with digital copies of things that are out of print at this point. If I want it physically I'll print it out and bind it myself. Be nice to have the actual books, but not to the point I'm willing to spend big money on them, especially as I think I'm not that likely to actually play 3e these days.

Third is all I do play, so I'm kind of required to have these books. When I got my work Army lot from a friend, I knew I was going to build a speed freaks Army so I had to chase down the Codex Armageddon which I paid more than I wanted for, but I also picked up the rest of the codexes I've gotten this year for well under. I figure it makes up the difference

Yeah, full respect to you there. If I had a similar playgroup to you I think I'd be doing the same, but I mostly play with people from my RPG group who are not wargamers and don't like crunchy rules, so OPR is easier to work with. I've found non-wargamers get it pretty fast.

Ideally I'd be playing 3e with all the trimmings.

Just received my new 4th ed High Elves book. 2 dogeared pages, otherwise nice.

These old army books are great, it includes a scenario and a batrep of the scenario.

 Just Tony wrote:
I'm simply trying to find the best way that I can accumulate a trucks that are smaller than the current truck model, which I feel is absolutely massive. I have one truck I got in a package deal that is the modern truck, and I intend to use it as a battle wagon. So my job now is to find smaller trucks that I can use for the rest of my speed freak boys

I did the same thing with the modern Ork Trukk--counted it as a battlewagon, in my case for 2nd ed 40K. I glued the rear passenger tray in backward to make more room (or at least give the feeling of more room). Was fairly simple to do. Yours might have already been glued, of course.

I found the modern Trukk fiddly and delicate to build. Not very Orky.

Wow is it difficult to get 90s 40K Orks. These are the ones with the metal body and plastic arms / weapons. On ebay they are generally ridiculously expensive and missing the arms.

Yipppe mother yay!~

Found 2nd Ed Codex Space Wolves for a reasonable price, and struck.

Pretty sure that’s now a complete set of 2nd Ed codexes.

I came in at around the very end of 7th edition just in time for 8th.

As a young white shield I wanted to play however the shiny new edition out of my grasp. Undeterred I went to a discount book store and found some 5th edition codex's for my IG and CSM along with the rulebook, maybe it's because this was my first real taste of the table top aspect as well as it was with my friends rather than a random at an LGS, but 5th is my comfort edition.

it is practically the only edition I play with my friends as 10th is eh.
5th is that sweet spot to me not just the crunch and fluff but also the art. It felt more alive compared to the newer art.

 IronRose wrote:
I came in at around the very end of 7th edition just in time for 8th.

As a young white shield I wanted to play however the shiny new edition out of my grasp. Undeterred I went to a discount book store and found some 5th edition codex's for my IG and CSM along with the rulebook, maybe it's because this was my first real taste of the table top aspect as well as it was with my friends rather than a random at an LGS, but 5th is my comfort edition.

it is practically the only edition I play with my friends as 10th is eh.
5th is that sweet spot to me not just the crunch and fluff but also the art. It felt more alive compared to the newer art.

Very fortunate, you dodged the bullet on that GW trainwreck.

My french bulldog puppy somehow figured out how to build ladders. His first act of terrorism was to push a chair up to the breakfast bar, climb up to where my third edition space marine codex was, pull it down and eat the cover off of it as well as chew off the corners of some pages. So how much is a third edition space marine codex going for nowadays?

Look around, most old codexes for 3rd-5th are about $10

Think 4th-5th edition is in the sweet spot (Playstation 2-3) level of retro collecting at the moment, fairly cheap for the rules and army books. 2nd edition has reached 'boxed NES game in fairly good condition' price range now unfortunately. A lot of the books I got for around £10 2-3 years ago are now 4 or 5 times that amount, even more for the rare ones (Sisters of battle etc)

Bear in mind, if you just want the rules there is a 'rules bible' community version which has everything (all expansions, WD extras etc) available online.

 Cap'n Facebeard wrote:
Wow is it difficult to get 90s 40K Orks. These are the ones with the metal body and plastic arms / weapons. On ebay they are generally ridiculously expensive and missing the arms.

Like the plastic Marine arms these are now really hard to find for a sensible price - perhaps even worse as I don't think the Orks sold anything like in the same numbers, so are much more rare. I think your best bet might be to join one of the 2nd edition 40k FB groups and ask on there - there were some fan-made 3D prints which are apparently almost identical to the originals.

Yes I think I'm just going to shelve my impulse for a 90s Ork army. I find it very annoying with modern ebay how people post things that will obviously never sell for the price they list.

Guys.

I’ve done it. I’ve only gone and done it.

I now have complete collections of 1st and 2nd Ed 40K books.

So…what now? What will become of this hoarder of hobby lore now my horde is complete?

Will it be saving up for a copy of the Titan Legions Books? The long, slow hunt for a complete, era relevant, collection of White Dwarf magazines in good nick?

Given the frankly desultory state of modern 40K I'm looking at getting into 4E/3.5E. I feel it's probably the best edition with the right mix of 3rd and 4th edition books (though IIRC the only truly dreadful 4E book was the Chaos Codex, even the ones that were downgrades relative to their 3.5 counterparts were still perfectly serviceable; the Ork 4E Codex was a bit lacklustre compared to its predecessor but not dreadful by any stretch) and also the books tend to be surprisingly affordable on the aftermarket, assuming you don't just Yarr Harr them.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So…what now? What will become of this hoarder of hobby lore now my horde is complete?

Will it be saving up for a copy of the Titan Legions Books? The long, slow hunt for a complete, era relevant, collection of White Dwarf magazines in good nick?

Collect them all in other languages. I think Italians used to be a big fan of Warhammer.

Here's a question for old ed appreciators - in your opinion do you think the original Realm of Chaos books will ever be reprinted for international market? Or should I splurge and buy the cheapest ones on ebay (which when buying from here is Aus are still quite a high price)

 GreycapTheUnwise wrote:
Given the frankly desultory state of modern 40K I'm looking at getting into 4E/3.5E. I feel it's probably the best edition with the right mix of 3rd and 4th edition books (though IIRC the only truly dreadful 4E book was the Chaos Codex, even the ones that were downgrades relative to their 3.5 counterparts were still perfectly serviceable; the Ork 4E Codex was a bit lacklustre compared to its predecessor but not dreadful by any stretch) and also the books tend to be surprisingly affordable on the aftermarket, assuming you don't just Yarr Harr them.

Many of the 3.5 and 4th ed codexes are some of the best(since the original crew was still at the helm of game development), however the core rules were overall better in 5th. thats why our group uses core 5th ed rules with a few minor tweaks but allows any codex from 3rd-7th to be used within those rules. our focus is more on classic thematic play as such with a few exceptions those codexes 3rd/4th/index astartes/forge world etc..) have the best feel to them. i absolutely love the 4th ed codexes for eldar, orks, tau, tyranids and black templar.
3.5 has some of the best stuff for power armor-chaos, witch hunters, demon hunters and a smattering of the more unique loyalist chapters like scars, iron hands, and dark angels. core space marines and guard is a toss up both the 4th and 5th ed books are really good. but 5th has more unit options so it tends to win out. aside from that in 5th the ones that really stand out as great codexes are space wolves, blood angels, dark eldar and necrons.