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I have a painted Khorne Bloodship somewhere....

Not starting a new thread for it, and here seems like the best place for it:

I find it really weird that ten years ago 7th edition was a thing, and that 6th edition came to pass with the hull points, etc. It'll be three more years until Primaris are a decade old, but I'm longing for the days of 3rd and 4th. I don't actively play (was always too slow to catch up before the editions sprinted away) but I miss the "complex simplicity" of the older editions. The extra year or two between editions really made it feel like it lasted longer. These days as a person approaching middle-age, I'm finding myself putting off getting back as "I can wait until 20XX for the next edition" rather than getting stuck in an having fun.

Dude, there are people willing to play those editions with you. If memory serves me correctly, I saw posts in the 3rd Edition Facebook Group from people from your country. Might be in your interest to have a look-see.

Definitely - for second edition at least there are some very active groups, some with many thousands of members. And all sorts of stuff posted, from people that collect 100% accurate renditions of the old minis (down to goblin green-rimmed bases!) through to 3d prints done in classical style and people playing old rules with new minis. I am sure there will be similar for 3rd.

A friend of mine is collecting Necrons for 2nd, which from reading around hilariously overpowered (they were a very late WD release from memory), I am collecting a mix of the new Votann, Mantic Forge Fathers and some printed stuff and using them as Squats for that ruleset.

There’s definitely a market for Oldhammer, as it’s affectionately known.

The good news is that whilst GW’s prices have of course increased over time (though in the grand scheme, taking into inflation not as much as we initially think. Still above inflation though), the older the edition? The smaller the overall scale battles tended to be.

Which means if other Old Grognards decide to dust off their old rule books? Even starting an army from scratch isn’t massively expensive.

For example? About three years ago, I started an Eldar army, rooted in the 2nd Ed Codex. Whilst some rule bending is needed (no more than 50% of Guardian Squads being able to field Shuriken Catapults is a problem, for instance), the army is pretty dinky.

I’ll need to revisit that soon. And with all my Legions Imperialis and Heresy stuff almost painted, I may resurrect that old plan in the coming weeks as a side project to my 2024 Hobby Odyssey.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Which means if other Old Grognards decide to dust off their old rule books? Even starting an army from scratch isn’t massively expensive..

This is literally what a friend and I are doing

Also thinking of using 2nd edition as a template for 30k era battles. 20-30 marines max, a tank and walker and you are good to go.

I'm doing this with 6th ed WHFB. The armies are indeed much smaller, eg a unit of 12 Chaos Warriors is useful. No big Hordes-like monsters and such either.

I'm only doing some armies now but as I own every 6th ed book, the temptation is strong to get them all.

I’m particularly fond of 2nd Ed 40K for that.

Aspect Warriors, for instance. They’re typically pretty damned good, even in tiny five model units. Fragile, yes. But when used well, they absolutely wreck face. And that’s helped as Blob Squads weren’t what they’d become, so even say, two or three Banshees getting the charge are gonna smash up the enemy squad.

Sod it. Tomorrow I break out the 2nd Ed Codex, and I’ll make a list. And I’ll check it twice. I won’t bother figuring out who’s naughty or nice as I reckon you’re all secretly heretics, and as I hold a real life inquisitorial mandate, I’m allowed to make such proclamations.

Yeah. Especially you.

And with payday next Monday, I can plan out any remaining purchases. Like Warlocks and/or a Farseer.

Will go for 2,000 points I think.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Farseer.

Make sure you get the bubble-helmet-pointing guy

Oh I’m using current models!

You can get him anyway, he's a good mini

 Cap'n Facebeard wrote:
You can get him anyway, he's a good mini

I chopped his helmet off and replaced it with a bare Guardian head from the 3rd Ed. sprue. He's currently either my Archmage or Lord with Armor of the Gods and Swordmaster Honor for my High Elf army.

Just checked the eBay prices.

Not. A. Chance. Waaaaay too expensive. I mean, is it a design classic? Absolutely. If I or a friend already had one lurking in the bitz box would I dust it off? Darn tooting.

But average price is £100, which is excessively excessive in an excessively-tastic way.

Wasn’t he even MTO not that long ago? It’s not like the supply is just 30 year old relics…

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not. A. Chance. Waaaaay too expensive.

Beginning to question your dedication to this plan

Hmmm.

Power and Internet bill just jumped by £100.

Guess I’m getting a Farseer or Warlocks this month.

"Pointy guy" can go for a lot less than £100, I just saw it go for $27 USD shipped.

It was labeled "metal warlock/Farseer" though.

One of the most annoying things about old editions is trying to find old tactics articles about factions. playing around with a mechanized guard list and have no clue what i'm doing lol

Put lads in Chimera, drive over naughty bad guys?

 Tiger9gamer wrote:
One of the most annoying things about old editions is trying to find old tactics articles about factions. playing around with a mechanized guard list and have no clue what i'm doing lol

With tanks cover the more lightly armoured sides where possible and watch for units that can cross-fire you - it helps when you only have one direction in which you need to screen/cover yourself when moving and picking your facing.

Tanks frequently have the range to sit out on the edges and negate a fair amount of return fire via distance, particularly when setting up second to get maximum value from defensive placement. You'll want infantry screens against deepstrike armies (particularly mid to late oldhammer drop pods and the like).


With transports depending on the edition you either want to hide in your chimera because it's a bunker or behind it because it's a death trap.

In both cases expect transports not to survive close contact with enemy units but fast movement can help, get in to position quickly and then use the vehicle like a (temporarily)mobile wall to create concealment and force oncoming units to move around it.

And don't forget tank shock as it can both break units off the board (many undersized units won't be able to recover) and also to 'shape up' squads for the shooting phase - factions like the Witch Hunters got a lot of value out of tank-shoving units into compact flamer-friendly shapes.

So I've gassed on in this thread about how I'd like to collect all the 6th ed WHFB armies. Well I'm going to ruddy do it! Turn the nostalgia all the way up!

Already have all the army books and the rulebook. What comes next is a collecting quest that may not ever be finished

Do it in epic scale, thats how i managed to build all the 40K armies i always wanted without breaking the bank. ... it helps that there are 3rd party manufacturer that still support it. same with fantasy. have my 6th ed 2,500 point beastmen army in warmaster scale.

 Pacific wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Which means if other Old Grognards decide to dust off their old rule books? Even starting an army from scratch isn’t massively expensive..

This is literally what a friend and I are doing

Also thinking of using 2nd edition as a template for 30k era battles. 20-30 marines max, a tank and walker and you are good to go.

Hey, this is exactly what I'm doing as well! Since 10th edition legended my main army big time, I am taking all my toys and making them 2nd edition compatible. My only gripe is sourcing out propa' looking Ork boyz from the modern GW model range, anything besides the Kommandos kit looks too "modern" ie not enuff flak vests and stuff, and too much blood bowl vibes.. vehicles are fine though, as are the dreads, which is a relief..

I got no idea what to use my Eldar Pirates as though.. werent they strictly a Rogue Trader affair? As in, they never got rules for 2nd ed..?

I got a move coming up, dusted the old archives and found an unopened FW Repressor kit! Did 2nd ed ever get rules for Repressors? Kind of want to make it a dedicated transport for my Arbites

Cap'n Facebeard wrote:So I've gassed on in this thread about how I'd like to collect all the 6th ed WHFB armies. Well I'm going to ruddy do it! Turn the nostalgia all the way up!

Already have all the army books and the rulebook. What comes next is a collecting quest that may not ever be finished

aphyon wrote:Do it in epic scale, thats how i managed to build all the 40K armies i always wanted without breaking the bank. ... it helps that there are 3rd party manufacturer that still support it. same with fantasy. have my 6th ed 2,500 point beastmen army in warmaster scale.

No reason to do it in Warmaster scale unless you simply want to play Warmaster. I'm pretty sure the Cap'n would have specified Warmaster if he was going that way. Besides, I've been doing this exact thing for the last few years and it's actually affordable if you're patient enough to look for deals. We're currently only missing Chaos Dwarfs and Ogre Kingdoms, have small starting forces for Tomb Kings, Wood Elves, and Vampire Counts. Everything else we have at least 2,000 if not 3,000 points of models. And yes, that includes Dogs Of War.

 tauist wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Which means if other Old Grognards decide to dust off their old rule books? Even starting an army from scratch isn’t massively expensive..

I got no idea what to use my Eldar Pirates as though.. werent they strictly a Rogue Trader affair? As in, they never got rules for 2nd ed..?

They were a unit in the 2nd Ed codex.

Some old RT era guys can fit in with aspects



But some just get to collect dust. Who needs a guy with a ML on his shoulder these days?

Aww, man. Two of my favorite RT Eldar, there. That weren't Harlequins, anyway. Pointy sword guy may have been my first GW mini.

 aphyon wrote:
Do it in epic scale

It's definitely one way to do it, but I'm determined to collect for 6th whfb in 28mm.

I am tempted by the idea of collecting epic 40k tho. I wonder if you could play epic space marine 2nd ed using 8mm models, allowing you to use all these lovely LI minis.

 youwashock wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Which means if other Old Grognards decide to dust off their old rule books? Even starting an army from scratch isn’t massively expensive..

I got no idea what to use my Eldar Pirates as though.. werent they strictly a Rogue Trader affair? As in, they never got rules for 2nd ed..?

They were a unit in the 2nd Ed codex.

Awesome, thanks for that! Time to read through that one..

Yup. Eldar Corsairs, with a pretty flexible loadout. They also have a character, but he leads the unit, so can’t act independently.

It’s an often forgotten option for 2nd Ed, due to the lack of models at the time. But, now we have a plastic kit? I’ll be looking to add a unit.