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RIP Astartes... You burned bright and were snuffed out too soon..

This can only encourage more fan projects, knowing there's a chance they could get picked up and canonised, so that's really great to see. Be nice if more properties did this besides 40k.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Astartes is now no longer on Youtube unfortunately as a result. Shame that they'd take down content that they're advertising.

Yes a real shame. I wanted to watch the original again because I thought there were some changes made.
Also - the reason it got so popular was because it was on Youtube and so many people were reacting to it who have never heard of Warhammer. They're not likely to subscribe to Warhammer Community.
But maybe GW will now post it to their official YouTube channel, or make a new one for animations.

You can still find it on Youtube, for now, just not on his page.

 TalonZahn wrote:
You can still find it on Youtube, for now, just not on his page.

DMCA will stop any and all attempts to rehost.. GW now owns Astares fan project.

Re: "for now" .......

There are ways around DMCA as well.

To me, the Astartes animation has had quite a negative change to it already - the music changes completely ruin the tone and feel it had. Just look at the last part where the Marine arrives on the alien world surrounded by ancient statues. Previously it had music that gave it an otherworldly, strange, mysterious yet imposing tone. Now it's generic horror music that feels out of place and has more of a forced sense of tension.

Reposted from the other thead.

Caradman Sturnn wrote:
The link to all original Astartes videos is here: https://archive.org/details/Warhammer40kFanFilmAstartes

If you want them, I'd suggest you get them ASAP, far more mainstream content has disappeared from the web (though not really, if you know where to look).

Yeah.. I dont think this is going to result in any creative improvement to the works. In fact most likely bastardised commercialized toned down version resulting in a detriment. It will most likely result in higher technical and quanittiry aspects due to budget but even thats debatable..

I think its a shame but I don't blame the guy. Its his work. Sure as hell sucks for any of his supporters and patroens.

 Argive wrote:
Yeah.. I dont think this is going to result in any creative improvement to the works. In fact most likely bastardised commercialized toned down version resulting in a detriment. It will most likely result in higher technical and quanittiry aspects due to budget but even thats debatable..

I think its a shame but I don't blame the guy. Its his work. Sure as hell sucks for any of his supporters and patroens.

Very much agreed. The orginal Astates videos where unique in tone and aesthetic from what we can expect from GW-sponsored content, I suposed we should be glad that the supercut only changed the audio.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
To me, the Astartes animation has had quite a negative change to it already - the music changes completely ruin the tone and feel it had. Just look at the last part where the Marine arrives on the alien world surrounded by ancient statues. Previously it had music that gave it an otherworldly, strange, mysterious yet imposing tone. Now it's generic horror music that feels out of place and has more of a forced sense of tension.

That's the part I was thinking of in particular. The high pitched sound leading to the drum beats was great.

Also in the original it seemed that we see other members of the squad teleported onto the far pillars as each drum beat struck - that is removed.

Actually - I just watched it again and the animations are still there but they don't sync up to the drums.

Voss wrote:
'Even more animation?' Was some of the previously previewed stuff actually released somewhere? This sounds like more of the same- snippets, but no content.

I'm gonna be honest, most of the animation we've seen looked extremely amateurish, just one step above those 3D animations using ripped in-game models you see on twitter. There's been one or two projects that looked actually competent, and they will take years to materialize.

Tau stealth suit. Nuff said.

Cronch wrote:

Voss wrote:
'Even more animation?' Was some of the previously previewed stuff actually released somewhere? This sounds like more of the same- snippets, but no content.

I'm gonna be honest, most of the animation we've seen looked extremely amateurish, just one step above those 3D animations using ripped in-game models you see on twitter. There's been one or two projects that looked actually competent, and they will take years to materialize.

Well, that's what I mean. It has been 2-3 years since the first announcement. Personally, I would've gone with talk about how near the existing projects are to completion, not announcing more for the even farther future.

And it kind of compounds the current issues with the release schedule. All sorts of things are coming 'later,' to the point that GW is talking over things that aren't even out yet- in some cases (like underworlds) they're doing sneak peaks and silhouettes of products 3-4 releases ahead of what was going to come out this month. In the case of DE, even earlier.

'Awesome things that aren't here' is pretty tired refrain.

So they changed Astartes?

I just pulled this from the Astartes patreon page.

This may feel like it's coming out of nowhere but I'm happy to announce today that from this point on I'll be working with GW to continue Astartes and transition the project to an official one with the Warhammer Animations team.

Many of you have no doubt been wondering what the status of the project is lately, but work on it has never stopped and now it's at a very exciting place, with everything I've been able to create and develop up to this point now transitioning to an official project where I hope to take it to new heights.

I can't thank you all enough for the support and opportunity to pursue both my 40k and animation dreams. When I threw that first episode up on the internet I had no idea it would take me here, and it wouldn't have without your amazing support and encouragement to keep going and so I'm truly grateful.

I just hope I can make you all proud with my future contributions to the 40k universe we all love.

Astartes will have a new home over at the Warhammer Community website so head over there to watch the existing series and for more news and exciting updates.

This Patreon page will cut ties with Warhammer and the Astartes project. It will be overhauled to represent me personally as an artist and it will be put into an 'inactive' mode and perhaps re-awoken in the future, if I get the chance I'd love to let some original ideas that are bouncing around in my head out into the world...but right now it's time to animate the Emperor's Chosen!

Has the creator responded to the musical changes in the astartes stuff on warhammer community?

He should have asked his patreons their opinion.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Astartes is canonised and officialificared. The talented chap behind it is now working on a follow up.

A litmus test of how much GW corporate has changed since Damnatus.

Was that the German one? If so, if memory serves there were unique legal issues there, whereby the creator couldn’t sign it over to GW, even if both parties agreed on it?

I mean, Do Not Quote Me On That. It’s a hazy memory, and based on the opinions of armchair lawyers. I could be incredibly wrong.

So, he's ditching his Patreon, which we have established as giving him, at minimum, $11k a month.

This makes me think that, either:

1. GW put the screws on him (ie. sign a contract with us or find we start claiming copyright).
2. They offered him a lot of money, enough to be worth giving up the above mentioned $11k a month.
3. He was blinded by being made 'official' that he's giving up a major source of income.


Also, how long before Astartes gets rebranded to 'Primaris'.

It’s possible they’ve offered him other appealing things - such as the standard employee package, which is pretty decent if memory serves, and it’s not changed any since my day.

It might not even be a lot of money, it might be the potential for regular income and the loss of potential future legal challenge by GW for him clearly profiting from using their IP. A fan made thing shifts gears when it starts raising money and the whole legal situation changes.

Also nothing stops him restarting the Patreon for other projects outside of GW's work. He's already made a big name for himself and could easily do his own styles of animation and get it going again if done the right way and soon enough.

More likely that this was the "offer you can't refuse" variety.

GW: Hey. Nice animation you made there. Shame if something happened to it.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
To me, the Astartes animation has had quite a negative change to it already - the music changes completely ruin the tone and feel it had. Just look at the last part where the Marine arrives on the alien world surrounded by ancient statues. Previously it had music that gave it an otherworldly, strange, mysterious yet imposing tone. Now it's generic horror music that feels out of place and has more of a forced sense of tension.

I think this has to do with copyright issues. There was some music from third parties on there. I preferred the original, but I do think this is less GW suits meddling and more legal IP issues. But, I could be wrong of course.

If it was under something like creative commons non-profit or such it might well no longer count now that the video is formally endorsed by the commercial firm that is GW.


This isn't unheard of, the Yes song Homeworld isn't in the Homeworld 1 remaster by Gearbox because when they did the remaster even though the song is in the original game, the new owners mean that a totally new contract is needed and they couldn't reach an agreement with the Yes managers so it was cut.

I think some people are over-estimating the amount of money involved here. Animation and related talent is an expensive game. A significant salary, a cash sum for work done so far, and bonus related targets, stock options, security, and a chance to work with an entire team, I don't think GW would have had to try hard.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
More likely that this was the "offer you can't refuse" variety.

GW: Hey. Nice animation you made there. Shame if something happened to it.

*places a space marine on the table and smashes it with a hammer for effect*

 Hollow wrote:
I think some people are over-estimating the amount of money involved here. Animation and related talent is an expensive game. A significant salary, a cash sum for work done so far, and bonus related targets, stock options, security, and a chance to work with an entire team, I don't think GW would have had to try hard.

wouldn't that be Under-estimating the amount of money involved?

 Argive wrote:
*places a space marine on the table and smashes it with a hammer for effect*

GW: So, when are you going to start working on the second series of Primaris.
Animator: You mean... Astartes?
GW: That's what I said. Primaris.

(In the example above, GW is a 1920's gangster )

Monty python for all occasions... from about 1:30 in...


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