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Good preview and nice to see Xenos getting some love too.

Personally, I like the new Sisters tank. Quite ironic that it looks much more intimidating than the very similar Predator tank.

 jake wrote:
But why a Predator? They could have literally done anything and they decided to recycle a boring Space Marine vehicle? Even when the army was brand new back in 2nd edition and our options were super limited I didn't want Predator. Its about the most boring choice I can imagine.

For me its the exact thing I wanted to see. Multiple launch organs and fancy razorbacks are cool and all but sometimes a nice mostly functional tank scratches the itch.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s not a Predator.

It’s closer to a Leman Russ, given its arms

You think this


looks more like this?


Then this?

Well I could think that SoB Castigator is actually way more primitive then Predator.

 Ordana wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s not a Predator.

It’s closer to a Leman Russ, given its arms

You think this


looks more like this?


Then this?

I think he meant in terms of gameplay impact and armaments.

Big cannon, 2 sponsons, hull mounted weapon.

 jake wrote:
But why a Predator? They could have literally done anything and they decided to recycle a boring Space Marine vehicle? Even when the army was brand new back in 2nd edition and our options were super limited I didn't want Predator. Its about the most boring choice I can imagine.

The simplest thing that comes to mind is that the most obvious gap in the Sisters' vehicle lineup is a tank that fulfills the MBT role. And given that Sisters use the Rhino chassis, that inevitably leads to a Predator-like tank.

It's not creative, no. One might even see it as unexpectedly conservative considering the design team's love for unconventional designs that has polluted the Marine line for a good few years now. I can't say I'm unhappy with that.

I will say, however, that the design appears somewhat flawed. I can't see from that angle if the turret can actually turn with those braziers on the sides. I like to think that's too obvious to miss, though, so I won't let that trouble me until there's proof of a problem.

What I'm more bothered with is that the turret looks jarringly plain. Not just in comparison to the other Deimos based models we already have, making it look odd beside them, but by using the same hull with the same ornamentation and then putting a turret on top with nothing but a small fence at the back. I've criticized the design of the Sisters tanks and the good taste of the designers before, but this model just confirms what I think of them when it comes to designs not based on proven classics.

That's probably easy enough to fix by throwing on some leftover bits, though, so I'm in the market for one. I wonder what else we get aside from the tank and the Nundam suits. I hope we get plastic kits for the Ecclesiarchy units that are still resin before we get any more novelty units.

T8, good save, plenty wounds, big gun. Sounds pretty mbt to me. What other this then provides? Mbt is 2 heavy bolter addition?

tneva82 wrote:
T8, good save, plenty wounds, big gun. Sounds pretty mbt to me. What other this then provides? Mbt is 2 heavy bolter addition?

In game terms I'm sure an 8th/9th ed Exorcist does fine in that regard, but outside of that a missile carrier without direct fire option can hardly be considered an MBT.

I like the Castigator. It gives sisters something we haven't seen. I mean, eventually, even the sisters of battle will have to admit when a weapon other than a bolter, melta, or flamer might be necessary to defeat a foe.

Also, 9 shots coming out of that thing just from the heavy bolters alone... whew. And remember, unlike a Leman Russ, this thing should hit regularly on a 3+ instead of a 4+.

drbored wrote:
I like the Castigator. It gives sisters something we haven't seen. I mean, eventually, even the sisters of battle will have to admit when a weapon other than a bolter, melta, or flamer might be necessary to defeat a foe.

Also, 9 shots coming out of that thing just from the heavy bolters alone... whew. And remember, unlike a Leman Russ, this thing should hit regularly on a 3+ instead of a 4+.

Sure. But unlike old books like the current Guard Codex, it seems unlikely they'll get a random Ynnari-style double shoot like the current Leman Russ tanks do. It also won't be shooting on a 2+ like the new Primaris Pred ... I mean Gladiator tanks unless Sisters also get a Chief-Techsister from Mars. And with a new Codex, it'll probably be excluded from re-rolls by not being <Core>.

And even with Tank Commanders that also shoot at 3+, double shoot because reasons, give themselves re-rolls and stuff, nobody even uses the battle cannon on those, lol.

So, ultimately, less useful (and less guns) than the Gladiator-tank, which is already a dud.

I for one welcome the move back to STC designs.

Damn the tease of all that new Ork stuff fills my heart with something.

Could this be...hope?

Dare I be positive about Eldar getting some much needed love?

 dan2026 wrote:
Damn the tease of all that new Ork stuff fills my heart with something.

Could this be...hope?

Dare I be positive about Eldar getting some much needed love?

"You'll get your codex and be happy about it!" - the modelling team busy making more Primaris, probably

Sunny Side Up wrote:
So, ultimately, less useful (and less guns) than the Gladiator-tank, which is already a dud.

The only thing holding Gladiators back is their price pointswise. Stats are fine. If the Sisters Predator will sit around 140 with a proper gun and some special rules like the 6++ it will be useful.

A bit early to call it bad.

 dan2026 wrote:
Damn the tease of all that new Ork stuff fills my heart with something.

Could this be...hope?

Dare I be positive about Eldar getting some much needed love?

Nope.

Necron love... Dark eldar nothing.
Sisters more... ad mech little.
Orks love... Eldar... Likely not.

Especially if daemons get something more with Be'lakor.

Or to put it another way, an ork release fulfills the tiny obligation GW feels to xenos as a faction (even though they aren't really one). Check back in 2022.

Voss wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Damn the tease of all that new Ork stuff fills my heart with something.

Could this be...hope?

Dare I be positive about Eldar getting some much needed love?

Nope.

Necron love... Dark eldar nothing.
Sisters more... ad mech little.
Orks love... Eldar... Likely not.

Especially if daemons get something more with Be'lakor.

Or to put it another way, an ork release fulfills the tiny obligation GW feels to xenos as a faction (even though they aren't really one). Check back in 2022.

No you won't ruin my glimmer of hope damn it.

Eldar will get their redo.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I for one welcome the move back to STC designs.

Seconded. Cawl is a heretic.

New Blood Knights are horrible. Guess it’s like with the movie remakes where 9/10 tend to be far more worse. I’m not even counting the now- mandatory- politically-correct inclusion of a female char as a Knight. It’s just that these are just boring high fantasy atrocities with no spirit on them. The old ones had this nobility aura, something that just made you think they are extra special just by looking at them.
Zombies, on the other had, I like. 1/10 where remake is better than original.
Ork squig rider looks like the guy from Mad Max 2, who drove a motorcycle and had a love boy at the backseat.

 CragHack wrote:
New Blood Knights are horrible. Guess it’s like with the movie remakes where 9/10 tend to be far more worse. I’m not even counting the now- mandatory- politically-correct inclusion of a female char as a Knight. It’s just that these are just boring high fantasy atrocities with no spirit on them. The old ones had this nobility aura, something that just made you think they are extra special just by looking at them.
Zombies, on the other had, I like. 1/10 where remake is better than original.
Ork squig rider looks like the guy from Mad Max 2, who drove a motorcycle and had a love boy at the backseat.

Oh no, Games Workshop is gonna give you cooties.

 dan2026 wrote:
Damn the tease of all that new Ork stuff fills my heart with something.

Could this be...hope?

Dare I be positive about Eldar getting some much needed love?

*examines user's recent posting history*

*shakes magic 8-ball*

Our sources say... no.

a_typical_hero wrote:

Sunny Side Up wrote:
So, ultimately, less useful (and less guns) than the Gladiator-tank, which is already a dud.

The only thing holding Gladiators back is their price pointswise. Stats are fine. If the Sisters Predator will sit around 140 with a proper gun and some special rules like the 6++ it will be useful.

A bit early to call is bad.

6++ is kinda given...its army wide special rule! You even get to deny(albeit with 1d6) as a side bonus

 Laughing Man wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
New Blood Knights are horrible. Guess it’s like with the movie remakes where 9/10 tend to be far more worse. I’m not even counting the now- mandatory- politically-correct inclusion of a female char as a Knight. It’s just that these are just boring high fantasy atrocities with no spirit on them. The old ones had this nobility aura, something that just made you think they are extra special just by looking at them.
Zombies, on the other had, I like. 1/10 where remake is better than original.
Ork squig rider looks like the guy from Mad Max 2, who drove a motorcycle and had a love boy at the backseat.

Oh no, Games Workshop is gonna give you cooties.

Thankfully, they won’t. I would not take it if they handed over for free Though I can see resin Blood Knights going for 300ish hundred euros on ebay now.

I'm pretty excited about those Zone Mortalis blocks!

 Dysartes wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Damn the tease of all that new Ork stuff fills my heart with something.

Could this be...hope?

Dare I be positive about Eldar getting some much needed love?

*examines user's recent posting history*

*shakes magic 8-ball*

Our sources say... no.

Oh magic 8-ball, why you got to do me like this?

Nurglitch wrote:
I'm pretty excited about those Zone Mortalis blocks!

Are they new, Nurglitch?

 CragHack wrote:
New Blood Knights are horrible. Guess it’s like with the movie remakes where 9/10 tend to be far more worse. I’m not even counting the now- mandatory- politically-correct inclusion of a female char as a Knight. It’s just that these are just boring high fantasy atrocities with no spirit on them. The old ones had this nobility aura, something that just made you think they are extra special just by looking at them.
Zombies, on the other had, I like. 1/10 where remake is better than original.
Ork squig rider looks like the guy from Mad Max 2, who drove a motorcycle and had a love boy at the backseat.

Female Blood Knights are quite prominent in the lore actually and given that vampires are superhumanly strong, fast and deadly regardless of gender why wouldn't they be!?

https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adhema
https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Velaza_Bentessas

*Clears throat*

PLASTIC BLOOD KNIGHTS



PLASTIC BLOOD KNIGHTS

 Dysartes wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:
I'm pretty excited about those Zone Mortalis blocks!

Are they new, Nurglitch?

They aren't.
It looks like 2x the column sprue and 3x the wall sprue that's in Dark Uprising. Or from the Necro 'Zone Mortalis Columns and Walls' (which means there are two different wall sprues, but they didn't include the door sprues).

Similarly the other 'terrain' is out of the 'Barricades and Objectives' kit.

Its an interesting box... if the price isn't absurd and you want (or know others who want) those specific gangs.

 CMLR wrote:
*Clears throat*

Are they riding undead unicorns? Cause that's awesome (tm)

 CragHack wrote:

 Laughing Man wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
New Blood Knights are horrible. Guess it’s like with the movie remakes where 9/10 tend to be far more worse. I’m not even counting the now- mandatory- politically-correct inclusion of a female char as a Knight. It’s just that these are just boring high fantasy atrocities with no spirit on them. The old ones had this nobility aura, something that just made you think they are extra special just by looking at them.
Zombies, on the other had, I like. 1/10 where remake is better than original.
Ork squig rider looks like the guy from Mad Max 2, who drove a motorcycle and had a love boy at the backseat.

Oh no, Games Workshop is gonna give you cooties.

Thankfully, they won’t. I would not take it if they handed over for free Though I can see resin Blood Knights going for 300ish hundred euros on ebay now.

"Oh ey! Boys! Theres a guy here that has called us... noble!"

"The feth you talking about Angus. I'm here just to stab people and get drunk on their blood"

"Shut up you two! Less talking, more raiding' the wallets of the poor fellas that paid retail price for us!"