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Certainly the nicest looking plastic giant in its size category.

I think that giant will go nicely with our Blacklist Games Fantasy Series 1 Giantess.

I don't like the pose. Well the pose is fine, but it's not exactly spammable.
If backers are going to end up with two or three giants all the same from various pledges it pays for them to have more generic poses.

Now if they have arm variants I will recant this statement and cheer.

Small update to all UK-based backers. Pledges above 135 GBP will be deducted by 20% VAT, which will be paid by the backer to HMRC Customs, upon receiving the parcel.

Makes sense (I hope you don't have too many backers incorrectly picking them as the look cheaper and they don't read the text properly)

it's going to make the pledge manager interesting for us in the UK too if we want multiple smaller pledges/add ons that add up to over £135 (hopefully you'll be able to code it to deal with things in the same way)

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Makes sense (I hope you don't have too many backers incorrectly picking them as they look cheaper and they don't read the text properly)

Luckily, there is an option to select "shipping pledges to specific countries", in this case, it will be locked only to UK (Northern Ireland I guess as well).
But, the pledge manager, that's a different cup of tea and it will be challenging :]

phew, that makes it easier for the KS at least

Archon Studio wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Makes sense (I hope you don't have too many backers incorrectly picking them as they look cheaper and they don't read the text properly)

Luckily, there is an option to select "shipping pledges to specific countries", in this case, it will be locked only to UK (Northern Ireland I guess as well).
But, the pledge manager, that's a different cup of tea and it will be challenging :]

Northern Ireland customers are entitled to tariff free trade with the EU.

Pre Launch show is starting now 10 minutes to launch.

https://www.facebook.com/dungeonsandlasers/videos/836200677243503/

It looks like the Sewers are now a rapid delivery option (+€17 shipping) as they are already tooled.


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Now live and funded

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/archonstudio/dungeons-and-lasers-third-edition/

Lasers and Dungeons oh my,

note the free Nubble mini is only for those pledging 85+ euros ( in the first 48 hours)

Backed. In before fulfilment, which is hard to do with D&L.

I F5'd on launch and ended up being #11, so the hype is pretty real.

And it funded in 15 minutes. First SG unlocked in 19 minutes.

That build your pledge and pick your add ons options is new. I just skipped it and put in a lump sum which I'll figure out later.

SG 2 unlocked

There are 5 Elementals planned.

I love D&L dragons and when my pledge rewards arrived I put in a second late order same day. So I pay D&L2 price for dragons plus D&L2 stretchgoals, which are super awesome and I cannot get enough of.
Glad I did because the stretchgoals already look awesome and I would be salty if I forked out for more dragons and missed out on these stretchgoals.

Pirates, furniture, elementals, orcs and elves. It looks great already and we are just beginning.

50 minutes and all the initial stretch goals are down...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
50 minutes and all the initial stretch goals are down...

and here's more

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Extra Stretch Goals are 25€ this time and they're still gonna be a steal, aren't they

Dana Howl just uploaded her D&L cursed city project. And SG 6 unlocked.

My wife and I were thinking that it feels like the buildings idea is being downplayed whilst townsfolk and sewers have become the focus.

Where are the examples of cool buildings? The current sketches are very lackluster.

Only one roof style? No thatched roofs and tiled roofs?

We can not believe that the KS does not show a complete tavern. Or completed versions of the various buildings shown in the original concept art. That is a serious missed opportunity.

One of the things we were hoping for from this KS was a tavern a lot of playable space, like a Dwarven Forge build, but at a lower price point.

There is still value in the KS and we are backing it but it is not so far delivering what we hoped for with buildings. It is exceeding our expectations with the townsfolk though. And D&L stretch goal accessories are always awesome.

A point of clarification added this morning the Giant and Ghost Dragon are max 1 per backer if/When unlocked not 1 per pledge level bought so they do not stack with multiple village pledges. Also they are not included in the €25 stretch goal pack you must get at least 1 pledge level that qualifies for SG to get them. All other SG are per pledge so they stack.

It's good that they spell these things out now.

From memory Oregano the 1M D&L2 dragon was 1 per pledge but that was a change from before, the Wolverine tank in Rampart 2 was 1 per backer.

That is not unfair. However they must include the giant and dragon for those who bought the dragon pledge. Dragons Lair pledgers don't want stretchgoals is poor thinking at the best of times, but ludicrous if it means Dragons Lair backers don't want the extra dragon. What do you think they are pledging for Archon?

Archon can and do feth up though. I ended up with six Wolverine Tanks for my late pledge, for which I am grateful as I decided to mechanise my Guard army, something I was not prepared to do until that point.
I also got several extra boxes of Rampart buildings, I emailed Archon as to whether they need be returned, they were gracious enough to let me keep them, and I kept some, but gave away the rest, including many stretch goal boxes in my local games club (what comes around, goes around). I kept all the tanks though!

Sign me up for that sort of mistake!

I agree the Dragons Lair pledge should get the Ghost Dragon if reached - it costs more a village pledge after all. The Dragons Lair pledge seems to be causing the most queries regarding SG.

They did state that giving multiple dragons cost more than expected last time so they are restricted now. I’d like multiple Giants as a Sons of Behemoth collector but if it’s 1 pose maybe not. 1 Ghost Dragon will do me. I have 2 Origon dragons I’d have been happy with 1 no idea what I’ll do with the 2nd but at least it has alt builds (with/without wings).

If you want multiple of the Giant and Ghost Dragon you could do multiple pledges under different backer accounts as shipping is charged per pledge picked it would cost the same anyway it’s just hassle to have more than 1 backer account on the go.

I might go that route, if I remember the password on my alt account I used once 8 years ago and if it turns out they roped me into getting 2x Village when I keep saying I don't even need any walls, but hear me out:

1) I want Townsfolk and probably multiples of Stretch Goals
2) It's just 30€ for +5 rooms if I take a Village pledge over 1x SG 1x Townsfolk
3) I kinda think I'd need a second Core Set to get enough walls to be useful
4) It's just 25€ for +4 rooms taking a second Village pledge over an extra Core Set and extra Stretch Goals

That's how they get you.

 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
My wife and I were thinking that it feels like the buildings idea is being downplayed whilst townsfolk and sewers have become the focus.

Where are the examples of cool buildings? The current sketches are very lackluster.

Only one roof style? No thatched roofs and tiled roofs?

We can not believe that the KS does not show a complete tavern. Or completed versions of the various buildings shown in the original concept art. That is a serious missed opportunity.

One of the things we were hoping for from this KS was a tavern a lot of playable space, like a Dwarven Forge build, but at a lower price point.

There is still value in the KS and we are backing it but it is not so far delivering what we hoped for with buildings. It is exceeding our expectations with the townsfolk though. And D&L stretch goal accessories are always awesome.

This all the way. It seems they've given up on buildings and are hanging onto their dungeon set up. It's still good, but not quite what I was expecting and not growing the range as much as they could.

My D&L2 pledge has been delayed so I don't know how good or bad this stuff is - I don't want to pledge for more until my previous pledge turns up. Which could mean I late pledge at best :(

Rampart 1 was good, but not out of the park great. The floors are complete trash, and it's a massive pain getting some parts off the sprue and cleaning up - there are way too many sprue joins for some of the walls and columns. I'm hoping they improved this with dungeon and lasers...

420k smashed

It feels like NPCs are the big draw in Woodhaven and the tiles are just a backdrop.

There is also some evidence of... shady... marketing going on, like I remember the past few weeks there was a lot of talk about how the sewers are the current big challenge and they're still working on them and then boom, campaign starts and all of a sudden there's influencer videos unboxing fully tooled Sewers with retail boxes and everything.

Wasn’t it the roofs that was the technical challenge and was taking a lot of work to figure out? The sewers have been the same design all along but the amount of the contents kept changing and then they decided to make it a core set. Influencers have had them for a week or 2 at this stage.

Pretty sure the pure water tiles with no sidewalk were just touted as a last minute addition which is funny if they're on a sprue with everything else.

Anyone going for multiple accounts to double up on giants and dragons should do so today to also get doubles of early bird Nubble.