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2021/09/20 11:59:33
Subject: Re:40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Grimskul wrote: Wha-Mu-077 wrote: xttz wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Should this be the case then, well, the Squigrig thingy is a pricey model: The Squigosaur seems to be the same price as a box of Beastsnagga Boyz. For anyone unable to watch the video: Kill Rig / Hunta Rig / Wurrboy £78.50 Squigosaur / Mozrog £31.50 Painboss £23.50 Spits out kompot £78.50?! The Battlewagon is £60! And they just gave it a price hike! Gotta charge those premium new kit prices, how else can they assert their dominance in the new release? I guess the BW at least beats out the Kill Rig in IRL money cost if not in-game cost efficiency lol. Didn't they recently nerf it? I believe just the harpoon/stikka ruling preventing it from immobilizing models like Flyers and how its timed between shooting and charging, but as far as points costs go and everything else, nothing much has changed. Though I do expect it to receive a price hike by the time the next Chapter Approved comes out.
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2021/09/20 12:03:14
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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They nerfed an interaction which was unlikely to actually happen during real games.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/09/20 12:03:20
7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2021/09/20 12:13:34
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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I imagine most Ork players are just gonna glue a Squig to the front of a Battlewagon.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado |
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2021/09/20 12:31:59
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:I imagine most Ork players are just gonna glue a Squig to the front of a Battlewagon.
I mean the unit isn’t even keyword squig just uncover the Howdah and put a weirdboy on top and done. I’m going to buy one Killrig but in any list I use 2 the magnetized battlewagon w weirdboy is going to be the other.
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2021/09/20 16:46:13
Subject: Re:40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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xttz wrote:
For anyone unable to watch the video:
Kill Rig / Hunta Rig / Wurrboy £78.50
Squigosaur / Mozrog £31.50
Painboss £23.50
HaHaHaHa!
What; you're serious?!
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2021/09/20 16:59:08
Subject: Re:40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Lord Damocles wrote: xttz wrote:
For anyone unable to watch the video:
Kill Rig / Hunta Rig / Wurrboy £78.50
Squigosaur / Mozrog £31.50
Painboss £23.50
HaHaHaHa!
What; you're serious?!
I'm not sure why any of those are surprising? There's a £70+ big ass model in most releases now (see monolith/silent king, belakor, birb fella for orruks), so the rig is on point there, if anything the squigasaur is a little lower than expected.
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2021/09/20 17:13:18
Subject: Re:40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Dudeface wrote: Lord Damocles wrote: xttz wrote:
For anyone unable to watch the video:
Kill Rig / Hunta Rig / Wurrboy £78.50
Squigosaur / Mozrog £31.50
Painboss £23.50
HaHaHaHa!
What; you're serious?!
I'm not sure why any of those are surprising? There's a £70+ big ass model in most releases now (see monolith/silent king, belakor, birb fella for orruks), so the rig is on point there, if anything the squigasaur is a little lower than expected.
Yep. Meaning: pants-on-head ludicrous.
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2021/09/20 18:35:17
Subject: Re:40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dudeface wrote: Lord Damocles wrote: xttz wrote:
For anyone unable to watch the video:
Kill Rig / Hunta Rig / Wurrboy £78.50
Squigosaur / Mozrog £31.50
Painboss £23.50
HaHaHaHa!
What; you're serious?!
I'm not sure why any of those are surprising? There's a £70+ big ass model in most releases now (see monolith/silent king, belakor, birb fella for orruks), so the rig is on point there, if anything the squigasaur is a little lower than expected.
Squig boss is probably cheaper since it has a named and generic, and isn't aiming for the certerpice role, so is priced to sell multiples.
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2021/09/24 22:30:04
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
Xalapa, Veracruz
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Poor New Zealand: first Kentucky Fried Chicken traffic, now the Rigs are $50 more expensive than Battlewagons.
Have to wonder what's going to happen to the 'nauts and Stompa.
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2021/09/24 22:36:50
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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CMLR wrote:Poor New Zealand: first Kentucky Fried Chicken traffic, now the Rigs are $50 more expensive than Battlewagons.
Have to wonder what's going to happen to hte 'nauts and Stompa.
$280 Stompa.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/09/25 02:11:17
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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AUD$210 for that Kill-Rig.
Yikes...
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2021/09/25 04:22:34
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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GW has an amazing ability to make me initially think "I want that" and then immediately think "Yeah, nah, no thanks" upon seeing the price.
I should probably thank them, my house would be absolutely full of their models if they didn't have insane pricing
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2021/09/25 07:57:54
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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And we thought the Black Coach was absurd when it was AUD$150 over the $98 Mortis Engine. Mortis Engine almost seems cheap by comparison.
Fun fact: Buying two Kill-Rigs will let you hit the $420 needed to get that new Primaris Marine.
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2021/09/25 13:17:58
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
Xalapa, Veracruz
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$125 Freedom bucks for Rigs.
Guess won't see them on a Snagga Battleforce.
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2021/12/06 09:13:07
Subject: Re:40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Fixture of Dakka
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The combat patrol gets separate releases on the 8th of January (UK, Euro confirmed US based on current GW prices)
Warboss Mega Armour £23.50, €30, $35
Deffkoptas £36.50, €45, $60
Ork Boyz £29, €35, $45
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2021/12/06 09:34:54
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Crazy prices
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2021/12/06 09:36:38
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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Guess that's it for the old Boyz?
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/12/06 09:43:39
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Very weird that they went to the bother of repackaging them then. Ah well, GW gonna GW.
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2021/12/06 10:01:59
Subject: Re:40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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It's sad that people told me I was too negative on what GW would do when they were asking for a new boyz kit up to the point of some throwing about enough insults to get banned for it...
... and then GW went and made a box that proved me correct on price being the same as necron warriors, mono pose, removal of all additional bits, 'ard boyz, extra heads and lower model count.
But wait, there is more - not even I envisioned GW also cutting 7 shootas and 5 choppa/sluggas from the kit.
I hope everyone wishing for new boyz is happy now. Let's hope they keep the old kit around, I'm definitely ordering some to make sure I have enough of them for future conversions.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2021/12/06 10:24:03
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Of the three, and given GW character pricing, the Mega-Boss looks almost reasonable, as he does seem fairly chunky.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2021/12/06 10:36:14
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
Italy
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Dysartes wrote:Of the three, and given GW character pricing, the Mega-Boss looks almost reasonable, as he does seem fairly chunky.
Deffkoptas will be good as well. Before this plastic trio, three metal models were much more expensive. And buying from 2nd hand market, three plastic AOBR koptas in perfect conditions didn't and don't really cost less than what the deffkoptas kit will cost. It may even be cheaper than buying three 2nd had koptas actually.
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2021/12/06 12:30:42
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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And so we reach the point where £12 for a plastic mono-pose no-options 'kopta is 'good'...
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2021/12/06 12:36:53
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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A few years ago those new Boyz would be sold as EtB and be half the price of a proper kit.
Alas those days are long gone already.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado |
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2021/12/06 12:40:47
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Lord Damocles wrote:And so we reach the point where £12 for a plastic mono-pose no-options 'kopta is 'good'... Considering that it's cheaper than the previous metal mono-pose model without options as well as the second hand price for mono-pose out-of-print pushfit models without options... yes? Mono-pose also hardly matters on a unit like koptas, and players really were just asking for them to bring back AOBR koptas - which they did, but better.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/12/06 12:41:06
7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2021/12/06 12:50:50
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
Denmark
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I'm glad that they are releasing plastic Koptas and Megaboss as stand-alone kits. The new Boyz they can keep.
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2021/12/06 13:09:48
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
Italy
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Lord Damocles wrote:And so we reach the point where £12 for a plastic mono-pose no-options 'kopta is 'good'...
Yes, it is actually. Before the new kit you would have need to pay an higher price for a mono-pose no-option metal metal with awful weapon or pay the same price (if not more) for a mono-pose no-option OOP plastic model off ebay.
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2021/12/06 13:15:10
Subject: Re:40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Uh-oh... Jidmah wrote:I hope everyone wishing for new boyz is happy now. Let's hope they keep the old kit around, I'm definitely ordering some to make sure I have enough of them for future conversions.
Yeah I really hope everyone who said Orks 'needed' (or 'deserved') a new Boyz kit enjoy their mono-pose optionless crap.
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2021/12/06 13:26:29
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Blackie wrote: Lord Damocles wrote:And so we reach the point where £12 for a plastic mono-pose no-options 'kopta is 'good'...
Yes, it is actually. Before the new kit you would have need to pay an higher price for a mono-pose no-option metal metal with awful weapon or pay the same price (if not more) for a mono-pose no-option OOP plastic model off ebay.
'It's cheaper than finding out of production models from a third party, or buying a model made in a much more expensive material' isn't the best line of argument to my mind.
Neither is 'well the decades-old model and starter set models had no options, so it's fine that the new kit has none either'.
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2021/12/06 13:29:09
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Be thankful that the new Deffkopta entry didn't render the old starterbox versions invalid by insisting that 1 in ever 3 Deffkoptaz had to have the new weapon.
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2021/12/06 13:38:53
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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Lord Damocles wrote: Blackie wrote: Lord Damocles wrote:And so we reach the point where £12 for a plastic mono-pose no-options 'kopta is 'good'...
Yes, it is actually. Before the new kit you would have need to pay an higher price for a mono-pose no-option metal metal with awful weapon or pay the same price (if not more) for a mono-pose no-option OOP plastic model off ebay.
'It's cheaper than finding out of production models from a third party, or buying a model made in a much more expensive material' isn't the best line of argument to my mind.
Neither is 'well the decades-old model and starter set models had no options, so it's fine that the new kit has none either'.
I mean.
Compared to other options it's still better.
Of course it would've been preferable to be like £20 for three, but at least it's not worse than it used to be.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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