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 Eldarsif wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
At this point pretty optimistic to think they wouldn't. Everything is pointing at it

Well, everything but the multiple delays in releases since last year. I have a feeling 3rd was supposed to launch this summer, but I can see the delays pushing it to next year.

If they delay 3.0 for a year(if this summer was the target date) then everything but Broken Realms will be delayed for a year because they can't release anything designed for AoS 3.0 unless 3.0 gets released first and I really doubt GW will accept that.

If there is a delay it will be a month or two at best.

I never said "for a year", I said "to next year". That's a 4-6 month push at most.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
At this point pretty optimistic to think they wouldn't. Everything is pointing at it

Well, everything but the multiple delays in releases since last year. I have a feeling 3rd was supposed to launch this summer, but I can see the delays pushing it to next year.

If they delay 3.0 for a year(if this summer was the target date) then everything but Broken Realms will be delayed for a year because they can't release anything designed for AoS 3.0 unless 3.0 gets released first and I really doubt GW will accept that.

If there is a delay it will be a month or two at best.

I never said "for a year", I said "to next year". That's a 4-6 month push at most.

Which is not unreasonable tbh - they were already what 3 months behind when they hit the pre-order freeze? Probably going to lose another month to whatever caused that?

Being even 6 months behind by the end of the year is not beyond the realms of possibility...

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
I just hope that when they do release AoS 3, they make a starter box with no Stormcast. Hopefully they’ve realised that AoS players aren’t obsessed with Stormcast in the same way that the 40K crowd love space marines.

Apart from a couple of character models, it’s been like 3 years since the last big Stormcast release. I’d be perfectly fine with them being in the starter. They’re nothing like Space Marines in terms of being release hogs.

It might be worth making peace with the idea either way, I think the rumours are Stormcast vs Destruction.

I was thinking more in terms of every starter having to have marines in it. If a new AoS starter has Stormcast, then I’ll pass.

But also, this being a rumour based on nothing except that both other GA’s have been in a starter.
And we know from Fantasy and 40k that means nothing.

There's a few different rumors right now for new starters. One is Stormcast Vanguard vs Destruction, another is Lumineth vs Daemons, and I believe there's one more rumor floating around that is Kurnothi vs Beastmen.

But where are they from? No solid sources or anything right?
It’s just peoples thoughts/opinions that snowball into rumours..

Some are purportedly from retailers, some are the usual kind of "My uncle works for Nintendo!" fare, etc.

Rarely will we actually have solid stuff too far out.

Oh yeah, and there's another rumor of a Fyreslayers vs Skaven set.

Pretty much. If it's not on those magnificent shipping manifestos or GW website it's just wishlisting. I personally think it'll be SM vs Stormcast in GW's attempt to make both hammer-verses into a shared cinematic universe.

Yeah GW of today doesn't leak very much at all. Honestly I think its because staff working for GW are happier than they were under the Kirby days in terms of community interaction and marketing. I think that during the Kirby era the huge amount of leaks were a direct result of GWs massive silence to the community coupled to the slower (than today) release cycle.

So you had staff making cool things but knowing that fans, who were pained with no info, wouldn't know for months. There was more temptation to leak to the community.


Today we get a rough 3 month cycle of pre-release info plus a few wildcard long term release hints as well. We've got sneak peaks and such as well. Basically there's a lot of communication going on. Sure we always want more, but right now there's a comfortable level of information exchange.


The only time its broken is during corona

 Overread wrote:
Yeah GW of today doesn't leak very much at all. Honestly I think its because staff working for GW are happier than they were under the Kirby days in terms of community interaction and marketing. I think that during the Kirby era the huge amount of leaks were a direct result of GWs massive silence to the community coupled to the slower (than today) release cycle.

So you had staff making cool things but knowing that fans, who were pained with no info, wouldn't know for months. There was more temptation to leak to the community.


Today we get a rough 3 month cycle of pre-release info plus a few wildcard long term release hints as well. We've got sneak peaks and such as well. Basically there's a lot of communication going on. Sure we always want more, but right now there's a comfortable level of information exchange.


The only time its broken is during corona

I think there's a few other things involved as well. They've hunted down quite a few leaks of the past. North America used to be the greatest leaker, then it was France, and all that's been pretty well locked down. GW managers are also discouraged from having YouTube channels or any social media related to GW.

A lot of leaks are also from potato-cams, quick snaps from phones of rulebooks thanks to someone visiting someone else and seeing it on a desk or a table. With fewer people meeting other people (playtesters, staff, etc) due to lockdowns, that sort of stuff naturally would dry up.

Danny76 wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
I just hope that when they do release AoS 3, they make a starter box with no Stormcast. Hopefully they’ve realised that AoS players aren’t obsessed with Stormcast in the same way that the 40K crowd love space marines.

Apart from a couple of character models, it’s been like 3 years since the last big Stormcast release. I’d be perfectly fine with them being in the starter. They’re nothing like Space Marines in terms of being release hogs.

It might be worth making peace with the idea either way, I think the rumours are Stormcast vs Destruction.

I was thinking more in terms of every starter having to have marines in it. If a new AoS starter has Stormcast, then I’ll pass.

But also, this being a rumour based on nothing except that both other GA’s have been in a starter.
And we know from Fantasy and 40k that means nothing.

There are still the odd relatively reliable ‘rumour-mongers’ and I think the Stormcast vs Destruction rumours are from one of them, but either way I just meant more, might be worth making peace with the idea so it’s not disappointing when it happens. It’s pretty likely Stormcast will be in the starter, rumours or no.

Danny76 wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
I just hope that when they do release AoS 3, they make a starter box with no Stormcast. Hopefully they’ve realised that AoS players aren’t obsessed with Stormcast in the same way that the 40K crowd love space marines.

Apart from a couple of character models, it’s been like 3 years since the last big Stormcast release. I’d be perfectly fine with them being in the starter. They’re nothing like Space Marines in terms of being release hogs.

It might be worth making peace with the idea either way, I think the rumours are Stormcast vs Destruction.

I was thinking more in terms of every starter having to have marines in it. If a new AoS starter has Stormcast, then I’ll pass.

But also, this being a rumour based on nothing except that both other GA’s have been in a starter.
And we know from Fantasy and 40k that means nothing.

Something vs soul blight starts to make sense. Soulblights are more and more looking at early 3e faction and new factions at the start of edition are often enough in starter set.


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drbored wrote:
A lot of leaks are also from potato-cams, quick snaps from phones of rulebooks thanks to someone visiting someone else and seeing it on a desk or a table. With fewer people meeting other people (playtesters, staff, etc) due to lockdowns, that sort of stuff naturally would dry up.

Those potato cams are GW leak department leaking intentionally stuff. That or every single leaker are totally incompetent photo takers who should stay away anything even remotely from resembling camera. Taking that bad photos requires serious dedication at taking bad photos.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Danny76 wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
I just hope that when they do release AoS 3, they make a starter box with no Stormcast. Hopefully they’ve realised that AoS players aren’t obsessed with Stormcast in the same way that the 40K crowd love space marines.

Apart from a couple of character models, it’s been like 3 years since the last big Stormcast release. I’d be perfectly fine with them being in the starter. They’re nothing like Space Marines in terms of being release hogs.

It might be worth making peace with the idea either way, I think the rumours are Stormcast vs Destruction.

I was thinking more in terms of every starter having to have marines in it. If a new AoS starter has Stormcast, then I’ll pass.

But also, this being a rumour based on nothing except that both other GA’s have been in a starter.
And we know from Fantasy and 40k that means nothing.

There are still the odd relatively reliable ‘rumour-mongers’ and I think the Stormcast vs Destruction rumours are from one of them, but either way I just meant more, might be worth making peace with the idea so it’s not disappointing when it happens. It’s pretty likely Stormcast will be in the starter, rumours or no.

For sure Stormcast is the bet yeah.

But we don’t see those people posting anymore. No one ever links to the source now it just gets said.
The older days of Harry and Hastings seem to be finished.

That allows everything like the above conspiracy of GW doing all their own leaks to come about.
(Though the terrible photo wualit6 tracks, as nothing should ever be that bad any more)