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2021/08/08 17:47:11
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Preorder can still be the 21st.
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2021/08/08 17:49:50
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Has gw ever had anything of note with middle of 2 week preorder? That kind of sucks away other preorders. Preorder of 21 is more kt boxes.
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2021/08/08 18:30:58
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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tneva82 wrote:They said preorder in august(alas specifically preorder). Alas nothing broken as long as preoider on last saturday.
Ah cheers, thought it was release rather than pre order. Chomping at the bit having already painted the Kruleboy half of Dominion.
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2021/08/08 18:38:48
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:tneva82 wrote:They said preorder in august(alas specifically preorder). Alas nothing broken as long as preoider on last saturday.
Ah cheers, thought it was release rather than pre order. Chomping at the bit having already painted the Kruleboy half of Dominion.
I just got about 2.4k ironjaws and kruleboy half. Wanna play!
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2021/08/09 13:28:08
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Lieutenant General
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2021/08/09 13:31:40
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The more I think about Kruleboyz, the less I like the lore.
*I'm on board for sneakier orruks, since Mork is all about being dead kunnin. But their whole introduction to AOS is seeing Kragnos and going crazy for him. Ironjawz I get. Kraggy is a god of destruction. But he isn't subtle or sneaky, so why do the Mork boyz like him so much?
*And since the orruks worship Kragnos because he's so destructive, why don't they do the same with mega garagants? Or God beasts? I feel like there needs to be more to Kragnos than just being a force of destruction. Otherwise, he's just like any of the other god-beasts that live in AOS
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2021/08/09 15:16:57
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well a lot of the God Beasts are more forces of nature, they smash things more by accident than by intention. Meanwhile your average Gargant is often not all that bright. Yes they area big and stompy, but they aren't destructive leaders. Kragnos isn't just someone powerful that smashes stuff, he's got a plan. He's got agendas and goals and objectives and general bigger thoughts going on. He's not just going to smash the biggest thing he can see, he's going to find ways to find bigger things to smash.
Makes a kind of sense that the more sneaky, smarter orruks would be drawn to a leader who is more wider thinking than just swinging a club at the biggest thing in the area.
Asides I'm sure there ARE orruks worshipping godbeasts - its just Godbeasts don't really fit on a 28-32mm scale board. I mean you CAN fit big things on- GW do sell Warlords and people have made imperators but they aren't really standard game models.
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2021/08/09 20:13:19
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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GaroRobe wrote:The more I think about Kruleboyz, the less I like the lore.
*I'm on board for sneakier orruks, since Mork is all about being dead kunnin. But their whole introduction to AOS is seeing Kragnos and going crazy for him. Ironjawz I get. Kraggy is a god of destruction. But he isn't subtle or sneaky, so why do the Mork boyz like him so much?
*And since the orruks worship Kragnos because he's so destructive, why don't they do the same with mega garagants? Or God beasts? I feel like there needs to be more to Kragnos than just being a force of destruction. Otherwise, he's just like any of the other god-beasts that live in AOS
I am hoping/assuming the battletome will go into this. Though I can certainly see an element of 'opposites attract' in a sense; Kruleboyz worshipping Kragnos because he is what they aren't. We'll see.
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2021/08/09 21:32:10
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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NinthMusketeer wrote: GaroRobe wrote:The more I think about Kruleboyz, the less I like the lore.
*I'm on board for sneakier orruks, since Mork is all about being dead kunnin. But their whole introduction to AOS is seeing Kragnos and going crazy for him. Ironjawz I get. Kraggy is a god of destruction. But he isn't subtle or sneaky, so why do the Mork boyz like him so much?
*And since the orruks worship Kragnos because he's so destructive, why don't they do the same with mega garagants? Or God beasts? I feel like there needs to be more to Kragnos than just being a force of destruction. Otherwise, he's just like any of the other god-beasts that live in AOS
I am hoping/assuming the battletome will go into this. Though I can certainly see an element of 'opposites attract' in a sense; Kruleboyz worshipping Kragnos because he is what they aren't. We'll see.
just because they're sneaky buggers also doesn't mean that they can't admire someone with the strength to do what Kragnos does. I mean at the end of the day they're Orks and they're still gonna fall in behind the toughest sonofagun they can. the differance is if a smaller Orruk kills a bigger one with a poisoned dagger the kruleboyz are going to admire the smaller Orruks cunning
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2021/08/09 22:19:26
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They are sneaky, Gobsprakk seems to be manipulating his ability to communicate with Kragnos for his own nefarious aims, at a guess once those aims are met Kragnos may be on the wrong end of a lot of poisoned blades:
"Among the many Mork-given powers exhibited by Gobsprakk, one of the strangest is his ability to speak and understand any language. This skill allowed him to parlay with Kragnos, and he used the ancient language of the Drogrukh race to form an alliance with the god of earthquakes.Â
Gobsprakk went on to become Kragnos’ faithful companion and translator. However, it’s thought that this natural schemer may have applied some creative interpretation to the edicts of his new best mate."
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2021/08/10 16:04:29
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk rules preview pg 27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2021/08/10 16:49:21
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk rules preview pg 27)
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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WHFB had spells like that too. I like concept of debuffs, I wish 40k had more abilities like that instead of just "inflict a mortal wound." or "reroll 1s"
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2021/08/11 01:52:53
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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GaroRobe wrote:The more I think about Kruleboyz, the less I like the lore.
*I'm on board for sneakier orruks, since Mork is all about being dead kunnin. But their whole introduction to AOS is seeing Kragnos and going crazy for him. Ironjawz I get. Kraggy is a god of destruction. But he isn't subtle or sneaky, so why do the Mork boyz like him so much?
*And since the orruks worship Kragnos because he's so destructive, why don't they do the same with mega garagants? Or God beasts? I feel like there needs to be more to Kragnos than just being a force of destruction. Otherwise, he's just like any of the other god-beasts that live in AOS
Because orks like good scrap. Gargants are dumb (plus not really that much stronger than a warboss), so not worth respecting, ork or ogre tribe is more likely to enslave a gargant (there are even bits in kit for this) than to worship it. Kragnos can actually think/lead/beat even biggest warbosses, plus isn't a fan of civilization like other gods, all traits orks like. Even a sneaky ork would follow him as it's much easier to attack in the wake of chaos he leaves behind than intact defences/armies.
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2021/08/12 14:12:46
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/12/the-sons-of-behemat-receive-a-gargantuan-battletome-update-in-this-months-white-dwarf/
So factions getting own grand strategies(so power balance between old and new ones grows), battletactics(hopefully you replace standard ones with new ones in list creaion or old book vs new book gap increases even more)and fction specific battallion)
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2021/08/12 14:21:33
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Stormdrake Guard, Knight Draconis pg 19)
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Pious Palatine
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tneva82 wrote:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/12/the-sons-of-behemat-receive-a-gargantuan-battletome-update-in-this-months-white-dwarf/
So factions getting own grand strategies(so power balance between old and new ones grows), battletactics(hopefully you replace standard ones with new ones in list creaion or old book vs new book gap increases even more)and fction specific battallion)
faction specific battalions again are stupid. We just got rid of those goddammit.
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2021/08/12 14:24:09
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Sons of Behemat might be the only ones getting any of those things, because they work so weird compared to the rest of AoS.
Like, can they even use any core battalions?
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2021/08/12 14:28:51
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Rihgu wrote:Sons of Behemat might be the only ones getting any of those things, because they work so weird compared to the rest of AoS.
Like, can they even use any core battalions?
Monster hunters and battle regiment at least . Only things they can't do are ones that require subcommanders, behemoths and artillery. Commanders and troops are fine(well ghb matched play. Core book matched play has differences).
And very much doubt that. This was predictable. Just like 40k factions got own secondaries so will aos, Automatically Appended Next Post: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/12/build-all-dragon-armies-and-other-fierce-forces-with-the-new-stormcast-eternals-battletome/
Also stormcast gets battleline changes by subfaction(and units that couldn't before can be battleline now) as well as by general to a degree
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2021/08/12 16:25:03
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Battleline by sub faction and general has been around for ages, it's nothing new. Automatically Appended Next Post: ERJAK wrote:tneva82 wrote:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/12/the-sons-of-behemat-receive-a-gargantuan-battletome-update-in-this-months-white-dwarf/
So factions getting own grand strategies(so power balance between old and new ones grows), battletactics(hopefully you replace standard ones with new ones in list creaion or old book vs new book gap increases even more)and fction specific battallion)
faction specific battalions again are stupid. We just got rid of those goddammit.
Hold off jumping to conclusions here. SoB are a unique case where due to the nature of the army they can't take most of the core battalions. New grand strategies will not be a power boost; there is already one that is achieved by having a battleline unit alive at the end of the game and everything in SoB is battleline. New battle tactics again do not mean they are better, nor does it mean they will be available in matched play to begin with.
And fleshing out PtG options via WD instead of waiting until a battletome update is a fantastic idea. If they had been doing that for Crusade this whole time I'd still be playing 40k.
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2021/08/12 16:31:27
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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For stormcast it is. Or what units for stormcast got battleline by subfaction?
Or did you even bother to read what i said? I said stormcast. Not game.
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2021/08/12 16:33:28
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Yeah my point is that is a standard feature; we knew SCE were going to get it before the battletome was even announced.
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2021/08/12 16:45:56
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Lieutenant General
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tneva82 wrote:For stormcast it is. Or what units for stormcast got battleline by subfaction?
Or did you even bother to read what i said? I said stormcast. Not game.
https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battletome#2nd_Edition
Stormcast Eternals are working with a three year old battletome that was the first release of second edition. That's plenty of time for GW to bring battleline by subfaction into the game using newer battletomes (e.g., Soulblight Gravelords, Hedonites of Slaanesh, Lumineth Realmlords, etc.).
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2021/08/13 06:00:20
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They never said that the new battalions or whatever would be available for use in Matched Play, did they? It's a lot easier for the WD team to write rules for Narrative/Open play, which might be what that is.
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2021/08/13 06:03:41
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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It's possible... I doubt it though.
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Chaos | Tau | Space Wolves
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2021/08/13 12:07:32
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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They are core battalions
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2021/08/13 12:17:57
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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For Sons of Behemat, yes.
They haven't said anything beyond "battalions" for Stormcast, so could go either way.
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2021/08/13 21:33:25
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Anyone else notice we've got a preview of a (to me at least) previously unknown unit?
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2021/08/13 21:55:20
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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BrianDavion wrote:Anyone else notice we've got a preview of a (to me at least) previously unknown unit?
It's the Thing-Skewer Whatever-Bow, it was previewed ages ago
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2021/08/14 05:29:01
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:BrianDavion wrote:Anyone else notice we've got a preview of a (to me at least) previously unknown unit?
It's the Thing-Skewer Whatever-Bow, it was previewed ages ago
musta missed it
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2021/08/14 05:49:10
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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What base do you think that is. Cavalry or the larger one Karkadraks/Gore Gruntas are on?
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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2021/08/14 06:31:39
Subject: Age of Sigmar 3.0 News & Rumors (Gobsprakk, Krondys + Karazai rules preview pg 27)
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Eldarain wrote:What base do you think that is. Cavalry or the larger one Karkadraks/Gore Gruntas are on?
about the size of a marine bike maybe? that'd be a cavalry base yeah?
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