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Actually I'd say the GHB is well worth owning. The Spiral bound rules is a big thing that people have been asking for for AAAGES and it makes it much more practical to use at the table. Small size, easy to move through the pages - its an all round win. The only loss is that the text size is on the small side - yes its readable, but they could have bumped it up a little and still had it at the same size.


It's a very practical product.
The Big Rule Book is fantastic and I'd never want it to go away, but more than half is lore and artwork. It's great material to get you into the setting, but its a lot of size and weight you don't need in a game. The GHB fits that role perfectly.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
As a new player who just bought into AoS with the Domion box set, a few etb extras for sce and the generals handbook for points - does this mean the generals handbook is now out of date? There'll be new units in the orruk/sce battletomes with no entry in the general's handbook. I kinda feel that ghb thing was a waste of money - not to mention flicking through the rules with a spiral bound sucks.

Also point costs off.

But you don't buy GHB for points(those are in warscroll builder anyway). Rather it's the scenarios and more convenient way for rulebook than The Brick.

If you didn't want the scenarios GHB was 100% waste to begin with. If you wanted then those are still there. Points? Warscroll builder. GW's official site. Valid. No need for book flipping for points

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
As a new player who just bought into AoS with the Domion box set, a few etb extras for sce and the generals handbook for points - does this mean the generals handbook is now out of date? There'll be new units in the orruk/sce battletomes with no entry in the general's handbook. I kinda feel that ghb thing was a waste of money - not to mention flicking through the rules with a spiral bound sucks.

Buying any printed GW materials is generally poor investment, the points, the rules or both will be changed within months. Unless you're really desperate for the lore.

Cronch wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
As a new player who just bought into AoS with the Domion box set, a few etb extras for sce and the generals handbook for points - does this mean the generals handbook is now out of date? There'll be new units in the orruk/sce battletomes with no entry in the general's handbook. I kinda feel that ghb thing was a waste of money - not to mention flicking through the rules with a spiral bound sucks.

Buying any printed GW materials is generally poor investment, the points, the rules or both will be changed within months. Unless you're really desperate for the lore.

Not all of them! Some armies can go YEARS without an update!

Even they will have FAQs/point cost updates regularly these days, meaning the printed book is basically pointless as source of rules.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
As a new player who just bought into AoS with the Domion box set, a few etb extras for sce and the generals handbook for points - does this mean the generals handbook is now out of date? There'll be new units in the orruk/sce battletomes with no entry in the general's handbook. I kinda feel that ghb thing was a waste of money - not to mention flicking through the rules with a spiral bound sucks.

Previously mentioned, but you don't want the General's Handbook for the army/ies, you want it for are now battleplans, grand strategies, and others, since the GHB NEVER HAD the warscrolls of the entire game in it.

And the GHB is out of date every year anyway, that's why you want to get one printed from your LGS.

What you want are the Battletomes because they have the rules to play your actual army. And their FAQs on hand. Points are always for free on their Warscroll Builder, under the List Building Tools of Warhammer-Community.

Well, at least until GW decides to shut down warscroll builder too (yeah yeah, I know, it's not even GW that makes it, just some random guy, but that doesn't mean they couldn't twist his arm if they felt like it) or bring it into W+ as another "free bonus!"

Full steam ahead for the Kruleboyz next week with everything but the Boltboyz on pre order next Saturday.

Also the open beta for the new AOS app and individual scenery kits from the starter set release

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/12/sunday-preview-bolster-your-kruleboyz-collection-and-discover-whats-new-on-warhammer/

Gutrippaz are fully customisable with heads and arms. Neat.

I swear, if AoS Boyz are gonna be more less monopose than 40k Boyz.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Gutrippaz are fully customisable with heads and arms. Neat.

I wonder if even the hooded heads work with every body? The guy with the banner, for example, is completely shirtless

 AduroT wrote:

Cronch wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
As a new player who just bought into AoS with the Domion box set, a few etb extras for sce and the generals handbook for points - does this mean the generals handbook is now out of date? There'll be new units in the orruk/sce battletomes with no entry in the general's handbook. I kinda feel that ghb thing was a waste of money - not to mention flicking through the rules with a spiral bound sucks.

Buying any printed GW materials is generally poor investment, the points, the rules or both will be changed within months. Unless you're really desperate for the lore.

Not all of them! Some armies can go YEARS without an update!

True, but it is a gamble.

I'd be feeling pretty good if I'd bought a Idoneth and/or Maggotkin Battletome, even if the pages would be getting a bit frayed.

On the other hand, if I'd bought a Lumineth or Space Marine 'dex I'd not be very happy.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

Cronch wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
As a new player who just bought into AoS with the Domion box set, a few etb extras for sce and the generals handbook for points - does this mean the generals handbook is now out of date? There'll be new units in the orruk/sce battletomes with no entry in the general's handbook. I kinda feel that ghb thing was a waste of money - not to mention flicking through the rules with a spiral bound sucks.

Buying any printed GW materials is generally poor investment, the points, the rules or both will be changed within months. Unless you're really desperate for the lore.

Not all of them! Some armies can go YEARS without an update!

True, but it is a gamble.

I'd be feeling pretty good if I'd bought a Lumineth and/or Maggotkin Battletome, even if the pages would be getting a bit frayed.

On the other hand, if I'd bought a Lumineth or Space Marine 'dex I'd not be very happy.

You said Lumineth twice

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

Cronch wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
As a new player who just bought into AoS with the Domion box set, a few etb extras for sce and the generals handbook for points - does this mean the generals handbook is now out of date? There'll be new units in the orruk/sce battletomes with no entry in the general's handbook. I kinda feel that ghb thing was a waste of money - not to mention flicking through the rules with a spiral bound sucks.

Buying any printed GW materials is generally poor investment, the points, the rules or both will be changed within months. Unless you're really desperate for the lore.

Not all of them! Some armies can go YEARS without an update!

True, but it is a gamble.

I'd be feeling pretty good if I'd bought a Lumineth and/or Maggotkin Battletome, even if the pages would be getting a bit frayed.

On the other hand, if I'd bought a Lumineth or Space Marine 'dex I'd not be very happy.

You said Lumineth twice

I meant Idoneth.

Can't keep up with all these effin' -neth elves.

I'm wondering if the heads and arms on the Gutripperz are similar to the Zombies, in that the arms and shoulder are one piece, with the weapon, shield and head separate. Its the only way some of the arms can be flexible, the champion is in a very different pose to everyone else.

Anyone have prices yet?

Those are revelaed on monday

I wonder if there will be enough heads to give every Boy a helmet. Would be nice

*record scratch*

Wait a second. What does that say?

Games Workshop wrote:Raise your own Dawnbringer Crusade settlements or raze them to the ground with these four boxes, including two Domicile Shells, a Guardian Idol, and a Nexus Syphon.

Four boxes? Four? Each of these items are a single sprue.

They're really going to justify releasing each of these as a separate release:


That'd be like releasing both of these ruined corners, these pipes, and this fuel tank all as separate boxes.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

That'd be like releasing both of these ruined corners, these pipes, and this fuel tank all as separate boxes.

No, stop, you're just giving them ideas!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
*record scratch*

Wait a second. What does that say?

Games Workshop wrote:Raise your own Dawnbringer Crusade settlements or raze them to the ground with these four boxes, including two Domicile Shells, a Guardian Idol, and a Nexus Syphon.

Four boxes? Four? Each of these items are a single sprue.

They're really going to justify releasing each of these as a separate release:


That'd be like releasing both of these ruined corners, these pipes, and this fuel tank all as separate boxes.

TTBH if it means a price reduction vs what we'd get for getting all in one box that might not be ALL bad, course as this is GW the price reduction won't be all that much if anything.

"Price reduction".

There's optimism, and then there's delusion.

Maybe it’s four different collections of those sprues? Like a set of walls, a bigger set of walls, a statue and some walls, and the ball/dome thing and a wall.

This is GW. Is gonna be the worst possible scenario. We all know that, lets just stop pretending otherwise.

As someone that came back to the hobby with 8th in 2018 is sad to see how that splash of gw goodness only lasted 2 years.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Price reduction".

There's optimism, and then there's delusion.

never said they'd give us one. just if they kept it cheap eneugh it'd be worthwhile. I expect it'll just be cheaper to buy the bloody starter box for the terrain. given the cost of the extremis starter set is 165 USDs, I'd expect this terrain to go for 50 bucks a piece.
In short packed seperately it'll be a trap for someone who "just wants the terrain" or "just wants one piece"

I wonder how much are the Gutrippaz gonna cost, since the Starter Box with 10 of them and a bunch of stuff costs 32£, and the new 40k Ork Boyz cost 31.50£ for 10. We gonna get another Necron Warrior situation on our hands?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I wonder how much are the Gutrippaz gonna cost, since the Starter Box with 10 of them and a bunch of stuff costs 32£, and the new 40k Ork Boyz cost 31.50£ for 10. We gonna get another Necron Warrior situation on our hands?

Gutrippaz have some options on them (differant weapons, a banner and a musician) so it's POSSIABLE those goodies will make it worthwhile to buy the box, although I doubt it,

Hope they don't end up making multipart Gutrippaz having only 1" weapons.

Man, I really want to know which colors they used for the scenery's swirly effect. Seems like Baharroth and some whites.

 CMLR wrote:
Hope they don't end up making multipart Gutrippaz having only 1" weapons.

Man, I really want to know which colors they used for the scenery's swirly effect. Seems like Baharroth and some whites.

nah we know for a fact they have spears or... whatever. I imagine no one will use anything but spears..... and then AOS 4.0 will make weapons with reach 2' not that great

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
*record scratch*

Wait a second. What does that say?

Games Workshop wrote:Raise your own Dawnbringer Crusade settlements or raze them to the ground with these four boxes, including two Domicile Shells, a Guardian Idol, and a Nexus Syphon.

Four boxes? Four? Each of these items are a single sprue.

They're really going to justify releasing each of these as a separate release:


That'd be like releasing both of these ruined corners, these pipes, and this fuel tank all as separate boxes.

Likewise when they announced the core terrain expansion people were annoyed they couldn't buy these individually, so someone complains either way.