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Yeah, the feedback and reviews I've seen pretty much say that they're good paints.

If you don't have any good paints, you should probably get some - whether they're AK, Vallejo, TTC, Reaper or Citadel.

 techsoldaten wrote:

 Polonius wrote:
I’ve yet to see anything about these that suggests they do anything new or different. They seem high quality and well made… just inessential.

I bought the first wave and will back the second.

Agree with the idea they are inessential. Would say the same about Vallejo, they're merely delightfully nice to have.

I think that Vallejo holds the belt for widest paint range, especially if you combine the model and game color ranges. Vallejo is certainly my go to for historically specific colors, flat/earth tones in general, and replacements from the pre 2012 citadel color range (at least until they revamp the game color line).

Army Painter is cheap and has great spray support, at the cost of being very tough to keep mixed. (personally, I tried a few AP layer paints and eventually gave up on them).

Scale 75 is designed for blending.

Pro Akryl has great coverage and vibrant pigments. They also finally nailed white, which is tough.

Reaper is designed around a triad system, and also has a pretty wide range. Avaiability outside of the US is super tough though.

An look at the 2nd wave of paints and a review as well.

I 'erez a rumourz dat deyz gonna be full of orc colours.

Well raize me a shroom brew to dat! (closest I kud find to a shroom)

Iz dat Dunky Rhodez still hidng from my challengz?

Da Ultimate Dunglingz Rainbow Belt I kan paintz a betta Battlebikez dan yuz in a shortaz timez? Tell I'm Buxxy, hez kan runz but da boyz can'tz hidez.

Evilz "Space" Makk'Knievelz

Wayniac wrote:
Personally I find Duncan completely obnoxious and grossly overrated l, little more than a meme, but I have heard good things about the paint range.

Out of curiosity - why? He's always seemed a nice enough mild mannered bloke when I've met him/seen him in stuff.



I'm a touch disappointed that this new kickstarter was an "all or nothing" sort of jig, as I liked having a smaller taster pledge for the first one.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Do we need more paint lines?

Yes if the product improves the current lines and competes in price.
Evolution..survival of da fittest.
The three tier wheel system and the 'Eadbangin' ball bearing cover both these marks.

 SpaceMcQuirk wrote:

Yes if the product improves the current lines and competes in price.

Uh... isn't it one of the most expensive lines out there?

I did what I suspect you did and read this topic from the start. Aside from the entertainment provided by dakka members getting offended multiple times over absolutely nothing (is that guy GoldenHorde still around? He's a hoot.) the impression I get is this is youtuber merch. Not a bad product (it's a step up from t-shirts with a google account avatar on them) and maybe Duncan isn't the arch-carpetbagger here, but it still feels like what you're buying is a label with a name and a meme on it.

Even so, I was a little surprised by this thread. Most of it is discussion in anticipation of the paints, then when the first wave hit there were a couple of 'yeah they're pretty good' posts and then it died a death. The second wave with a big expansion hit, but there was way less hype for it.
Is anyone using, or even excited for these paints in significant numbers?

 Vermis wrote:

 SpaceMcQuirk wrote:

Yes if the product improves the current lines and competes in price.

Uh... isn't it one of the most expensive lines out there?

I did what I suspect you did and read this topic from the start. Aside from the entertainment provided by dakka members getting offended multiple times over absolutely nothing (is that guy GoldenHorde still around? He's a hoot.) the impression I get is this is youtuber merch. Not a bad product (it's a step up from t-shirts with a google account avatar on them) and maybe Duncan isn't the arch-carpetbagger here, but it still feels like what you're buying is a label with a name and a meme on it.

Even so, I was a little surprised by this thread. Most of it is discussion in anticipation of the paints, then when the first wave hit there were a couple of 'yeah they're pretty good' posts and then it died a death. The second wave with a big expansion hit, but there was way less hype for it.
Is anyone using, or even excited for these paints in significant numbers?

It's pretty expensive but genuinely it's cracking paint, especially the metallics. I think the main issue is that Asmodee aren't selling it in the US yet. They just raised another $800k on Kickstarter so there must have been enough people sufficiently impressed by the initial launch to drop $192 minimum pledge on paint.

 Vermis wrote:


Uh... isn't it one of the most expensive lines out there?

I did what I suspect you did and read this topic from the start. Aside from the entertainment provided by dakka members getting offended multiple times over absolutely nothing (is that guy GoldenHorde still around? He's a hoot.) the impression I get is this is youtuber merch. Not a bad product (it's a step up from t-shirts with a google account avatar on them) and maybe Duncan isn't the arch-carpetbagger here, but it still feels like what you're buying is a label with a name and a meme on it.

Even so, I was a little surprised by this thread. Most of it is discussion in anticipation of the paints, then when the first wave hit there were a couple of 'yeah they're pretty good' posts and then it died a death. The second wave with a big expansion hit, but there was way less hype for it.
Is anyone using, or even excited for these paints in significant numbers?

I only just started using my Wave 1 set earlier this week. I'm really impressed by most of what I've used so far. Better coverage than any other line I have at the moment. The triad system doesn't look like it will work from the bottle colours, but works really well. There's a few colours I'll still be using from GW/AP/Vallejo to finish current projects, but after that, it's Dunc's paints for me. I'm really glad of the next wave coming as it looks like it may cover a lot of the ones I've been needing too.

Oh, and I forgot to add: the bottles are the best I've used so far for keeping the paint sealed well and keeping clean.
The only negative I've found so far were the two bone coloured paints. They seemed very thick, but were fine when the medium was added to them.

I reviewed the whole first wave a while ago and I was very positively surprised. I reviewed a fair share of paints and paint ranges over the last couple of years, but I think Two Thin Coats are the best range all around atm – very high opacity and smooth application, plus very solid metallics and washes:




Most colours are pretty close to their Citadel counterparts which makes transitioning easy. Can't wait for wave 2 to arrive. Along with new Vallejo Game Color acrylics (just the acrylics, rest is average), these are currently my favourite paints to use (plus a few AK 3rd Gen paints, and Vallejo Mecha Color and ProAcryl metallics).

Of course, at the end of the day it's only paint, but if you're serious about painting and want a paint that performs a bit better than Citadel & Army Painter, then I recommend them wholeheartedly.

I agree that the Two Thin Coats range is consistently excellent so far. Super easy to thin with water or medium too.

 winnertakesall wrote:
They just raised another $800k on Kickstarter so there must have been enough people sufficiently impressed by the initial launch

Ah. Well then. Talk about hiding your light under a bushel.

TBH I'm interested in the triad system, if they're easier to source on this side of the pond compared to Reaper. Otherwise I'm about as unserious about painting as you can imagine. Although that might recommend them to me too, if I can slap on an even coat with as little faff as possible.

Tell you what, if Duncan announces a bunch more washes and contrast-alikes (and doesn't feth about with the lineup just to keep up with GW's fething-about) I'm in.

 Vermis wrote:

 winnertakesall wrote:
They just raised another $800k on Kickstarter so there must have been enough people sufficiently impressed by the initial launch

Ah. Well then. Talk about hiding your light under a bushel.

TBH I'm interested in the triad system, if they're easier to source on this side of the pond compared to Reaper. Otherwise I'm about as unserious about painting as you can imagine. Although that might recommend them to me too, if I can slap on an even coat with as little faff as possible.

Tell you what, if Duncan announces a bunch more washes and contrast-alikes (and doesn't feth about with the lineup just to keep up with GW's fething-about) I'm in.

Yeah I'm in a very similar boat to be honest - I'm as bad of a paint in that I thin down my paint in the pots! I went for the basic basic pledge in the first wave and couldn't justify a whole £150 for everything in the second wave. One thing I will say though, I will be using the metallics exclusively

SpaceMcQuirk wrote:The three tier wheel system and the 'Eadbangin' ball bearing cover both these marks.

winnertakesall wrote: I think the main issue is that Asmodee aren't selling it in the US yet.

These two are at least tangentially related. Triads and shakers have been part of Reaper colors for at close to 20 years. Reaper, of course, is extremely lightly distributed outside of the US.

And in the US, Pro Acryl is coming on strong with their own Influencer paint collections.

Vermis wrote:
Even so, I was a little surprised by this thread. Most of it is discussion in anticipation of the paints, then when the first wave hit there were a couple of 'yeah they're pretty good' posts and then it died a death. The second wave with a big expansion hit, but there was way less hype for it.
Is anyone using, or even excited for these paints in significant numbers?

I think between the cost and distribution people aren't snapping them up, and I'm guessing like a lot of kickstarter stuff more than a few sets are unopened in a closet somewhere.

I haven't used them (again, no distribution in the US), but they don't seem to have a strength to justify the cost plus difficulty buying them. It doesn't hurt that two of the bigger paint influencers on YouTube, Ninjon and Vince, created their own sets with Pro Acryl. Oddly, after typing that I checked, and Ninjon did do a positive review of the range (basically seeing GW paints in dropper bottles as enough of a selling point), while Vince (who has a super deep bench of paints) seems not to have reviewed them, but I could see him being a guy who won't accept review copies.

 stahly wrote:
I reviewed the whole first wave a while ago and I was very positively surprised. I reviewed a fair share of paints and paint ranges over the last couple of years, but I think Two Thin Coats are the best range all around atm – very high opacity and smooth application, plus very solid metallics and washes:




Most colours are pretty close to their Citadel counterparts which makes transitioning easy. Can't wait for wave 2 to arrive. Along with new Vallejo Game Color acrylics (just the acrylics, rest is average), these are currently my favourite paints to use (plus a few AK 3rd Gen paints, and Vallejo Mecha Color and ProAcryl metallics).

Of course, at the end of the day it's only paint, but if you're serious about painting and want a paint that performs a bit better than Citadel & Army Painter, then I recommend them wholeheartedly.

Just wanted to say I really appreciated the review you put together for this. I was putting together an order for paint this week and I found your review on the reds, browns and metallics extremely helpful.

 stahly wrote:
I reviewed the whole first wave a while ago and I was very positively surprised. I reviewed a fair share of paints and paint ranges over the last couple of years, but I think Two Thin Coats are the best range all around atm – very high opacity and smooth application, plus very solid metallics and washes:




Most colours are pretty close to their Citadel counterparts which makes transitioning easy. Can't wait for wave 2 to arrive. Along with new Vallejo Game Color acrylics (just the acrylics, rest is average), these are currently my favourite paints to use (plus a few AK 3rd Gen paints, and Vallejo Mecha Color and ProAcryl metallics).

Of course, at the end of the day it's only paint, but if you're serious about painting and want a paint that performs a bit better than Citadel & Army Painter, then I recommend them wholeheartedly.

Do you get paid by Duncan, Stahly? I'm uncomfortable to ask, and I'm not doing so on the strength of this glowing endorsement alone, which is about as positive as possible (in some sense literally) but I have concerns for a number of reasons.

/edit - by "Duncan" I mean "Two Thin Coats" / whoever makes it / markets it, not necessarily Duncan.

Why do you have concerns? This thread, and elsewhere have been positive above the line.

I have only used a few, but I love their metallics, probably my favorite metallic paints in my collection.

JWBS wrote:


Do you get paid by Duncan, Stahly? I'm uncomfortable to ask, and I'm not doing so on the strength of this glowing endorsement alone, which is about as positive as possible (in some sense literally) but I have concerns for a number of reasons.

That's a bit unnecessary, IMHO.

The guy prides himself on his balanced reviews. Is it not likely that he was simply very impressed by the paint range?

What are the concerns that you mention, or your reasons for your concerns?

I really like these but they have only been available in my part of the US since about a month ago and no sign of wave two yet also not seeing any online stores in the states with them, so while I really like them I have not been impressed with asmodia's role out of them

Edit: was just reading the kick starter page and It seems that wave 2 is still finishing shipping to backers so its not surprising that they haven't had a general release of it, rest of the point still stands

Angel Giraldez seems to like them for the most part.

 lurch wrote:
I really like these but they have only been available in my part of the US since about a month ago and no sign of wave two yet also not seeing any online stores in the states with them, so while I really like them I have not been impressed with asmodia's role out of them.

One of my FLGS is going to stock the Two Thin Coats and Pro Acryl paint lines, along with Citadel, Formula P3, Reaper and Army Painter paints that they already stock (they don't do online sales however).

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

JWBS wrote:


Do you get paid by Duncan, Stahly? I'm uncomfortable to ask, and I'm not doing so on the strength of this glowing endorsement alone, which is about as positive as possible (in some sense literally) but I have concerns for a number of reasons.

That's a bit unnecessary, IMHO.

The guy prides himself on his balanced reviews. Is it not likely that he was simply very impressed by the paint range?

What are the concerns that you mention, or your reasons for your concerns?

The video has the "Includes Paid Promotion" tag. So I think it's legit to ask what that is. Someone paid for the video. May have been another sponsor but I don't think it's out of order to ask.

and that is said at the very beginning of the video, that he got send the colours to review and did not purchased them

I'm going to add my experience here.

I backed all of Wave 1 and the rack. Great products. My only gripe was that some of the paints are a little thick and have to be diluted. The beige type colours came out of my bottles like toothpaste but they dilute and cover really smoothly. As I really liked the paints, I backed wave 2.

I just received them and the rack but haven't had a chance to use many of the wave 2 paints. The only one I've tried so far is the green glaze which is a little darker and stronger than the old GW green glaze I was hoping it would replace - seeing as though GW always discontinue paints when I'm mid way through projects.

Anyway, my biggest gripe is the Wave 2 paint rack. As I was building it, it seemed to be as good as the first, same build, same size etc. That was until I tried putting paints on it.

They just don't fit properly. They have to be wedged in, scraping and knocking the whole shelf as you do it.
I've put a photo below showing the difference between the fantastic wave 1 rack (on the right) and the slightly different designed wave 2 rack on the left. I know on the photo it looks like a simple tilt of the bottle will get it out, but because of the dividers between bottles, it doesn't tilt enough. The only way is to jam it, wedge and scrape it in/out.
Meh.

I might send an email off to Sarissa Precision as well asking why the hell it wasn't tested first.

I'm certainly going to give them a try.

By the way, I did a review for wave 2 of the Two Thin Coats range, and I'm pleased to say that the new Glaze paints are pretty exact matches for the OOP Citadel Glaze paints, especially the Yellow Glaze & red Glaze are spot on for Lamenters Yellow and Bloodletter:




I also have a hand-painted comparison sheet of all colours and their Citadel counterparts here: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/08/review-two-thin-coats-wave-2-by-duncan-rhodes/

And for those wondering: No, I don't accept payment for my reviews. I usually get the products for free, but that doesn't stop me from sharing my honest opinion (and I criticized a fair few things in the past).

It's just that Two Thin Coats does a lot of things right that I'm looking for in a paint range. But I like other paint ranges as well, in fact I just compiled a list of my favourite paints and paint ranges sorted by categories: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/08/stahlys-best-acrylic-paints-for-painting-warhammer-miniatures-2023/

I bought white, red, bone color and the muddy wash. Coverage is great on all the colors. The wash is definitely not an exact agrax match and really needs to be thinned. The white did that little clog and puke thing that I have had vallejo and army painter bottles do. So that’s annoying but manageable with extra effort to clean the top afterwards. I think I have gotten my money’s worth.

Some cool looking stuff in there. I've got the first range but didn't have the money for the second. Was majorly impressed with the first wave, some of the best paint I've used. Exceptionally smooth with great colour coverage, especially the metallics which are *very* good.

Will probably get at least some of this - the metallics look great, particularly that metallic black which would be great for chaos warrior armour

Man, wave 3 before US even gets wave 2, lame.