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Possibly. Will try it on the big telly.

It's not wowing me, but I can see how the apps, the bonus model, the hobby tutorials, the live shows of GW events, the battle reports, the White Dwarf archive, and the animations will all add up to a person finding $6 worth of value in it a month.

Also, knowing the Warhammer community, plenty of young men will take pride in being a subscriber, who buys a year of it at a time.

Wow, that's the calibre of content they want to lead with to sell their video streaming service?

It's laughably low quality animation.

Sarouan wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

Comparing it with a subscription to Miniwargaming, though? That is doing a "non relevant" comparison.

Why not ? They do produce daily content and it's mainly about Warhammer.

...are they a streaming plattform? No? That's why.

I love that story and really dig the animation.
Still not enough to get me to subscribe though. If they can put out value, I'm in. Unfortunately, I have the feeling this will be another GW bare minimum effort. Too bad, I'd love to be wrong but we'll see.

 frankelee wrote:
It's not wowing me, but I can see how the apps, the bonus model, the hobby tutorials, the live shows of GW events, the battle reports, the White Dwarf archive, and the animations will all add up to a person finding $6 worth of value in it a month.

Also, knowing the Warhammer community, plenty of young men will take pride in being a subscriber, who buys a year of it at a time.

I’m in for the first year. Rationalising it, I need that Vindicare (my well good painter mate and I have mad plans for it), so that’s already £21 of the cost taken care of, leaving me needing to “find” £29 worth of relative value from the rest.

That's what they hope will get people to subscribe? If that's the best they have, that's pretty bad.

 Albertorius wrote:


...are they a streaming plattform? No? That's why.

They do have their own website where you can only see their subscribing videos. And they do use that to do so :

Vault videos stream through Vimeo, which you can watch through our website on any device that has access to an Internet Browser.

What does streaming platform mean?

By definition, a streaming platform is an on-demand online entertainment source for TV shows, movies and other streaming media. For example, think of things like Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Vimeo, and Sundance Now.

So...yeah, they're kinda using one, actually.

Well...cheap quality one. Wouldn't subscribe for this and if i subscribe wouldn't bother watching. If i subscribe it's for model and other stuff if it's good enough. This i skip in heartbeat

Sarouan wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:


...are they a streaming plattform? No? That's why.

They do have their own website where you can only see their subscribing videos. And they do use that to do so :

Vault videos stream through Vimeo, which you can watch through our website on any device that has access to an Internet Browser.

What does streaming platform mean?

By definition, a streaming platform is an on-demand online entertainment source for TV shows, movies and other streaming media. For example, think of things like Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Vimeo, and Sundance Now.

So...yeah, they're kinda using one, actually.

'right then. Bye.

I mentally calculated the value of their lore, batreps, and painting tutorials as zero.

That content is already available, for free, on Youtube and at much higher quality than what I'm sure GW will ever be able to put out.

The same was undoubtedly true of animations, although those are at least within reach of GW's IP so it's not available any more.

Well, I started paying for the 40k app a few months ago and just unsubscribed from the AoS app as it seems to be discontinued and still has no stats for the Dominion models I got into AoS with.

I was hoping that paying a few quid extra to cover both apps and get some good bonus vids would be worth it.

Personally, I wouldn't have wasted my time watching that sample vid if it had been a youtube thing. If GW seriously want to charge near Netflix prices for a slideshow that would barely make it to an obscure kids cartoon cable/sky channel, then I'm even more gobsmacked by what GW loyalists are prepared to pay for.

With the millions GW make in profit, *that* was their best effort to persuade people to subscribe to W+ just before release. Sheesh.

 kirotheavenger wrote:
I mentally calculated the value of their lore, batreps, and painting tutorials as zero.

That content is already available, for free, on Youtube and at much higher quality than what I'm sure GW will ever be able to put out.

Yeah, sure, it's not like GW doesn't have lots of skilled painters already in their painting studio.

And it's not like Duncan's own business doesn't already propose subscribing for painting videos on his site and he's still not going bankrupt, even though there are lots of "free, higher quality videos" elsewhere.

Hyperbole again without even knowing what will be put on, anyway. Power of prejudices.


I wonder though if they'll keep using Brightcove for their Warhammer + videos.

Sarouan wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:


...are they a streaming plattform? No? That's why.

They do have their own website where you can only see their subscribing videos. And they do use that to do so :

Vault videos stream through Vimeo, which you can watch through our website on any device that has access to an Internet Browser.

What does streaming platform mean?

By definition, a streaming platform is an on-demand online entertainment source for TV shows, movies and other streaming media. For example, think of things like Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Vimeo, and Sundance Now.

So...yeah, they're kinda using one, actually.

Also, now I think about it. Is this a streaming platform? No.

It is very like MiniWargaming (what I know of it from the blurb, I don’t get it myself), the content inside etc.
People are just talking the animation like it’s the main thing - and maybe that’s GW’s fault for how they explained it.
But it’s similar in what you get for all the rest of the hobby content etc, just a free (or ‘free’ if you’re gonna start on that again) model and some animations too..


Anyway. The animation.
Was alright, enjoyed watching it, would be Happy watching loads of that quality and enjoyment.
Wasn’t a waste of my time.
Whether when you apply money to see if it’s a waste still, undecided yet..

Sarouan wrote:

 kirotheavenger wrote:
I mentally calculated the value of their lore, batreps, and painting tutorials as zero.

That content is already available, for free, on Youtube and at much higher quality than what I'm sure GW will ever be able to put out.

Yeah, sure, it's not like GW doesn't have lots of skilled painters already in their painting studio.

And it's not like Duncan's own business doesn't already propose subscribing for painting videos on his site and he's still not going bankrupt, even though there are lots of "free, higher quality videos" elsewhere.

Hyperbole again without even knowing what will be put on, anyway. Power of prejudices.


I wonder though if they'll keep using Brightcove for their Warhammer + videos.

I'm not sure what you're saying.
Duncan has plenty of videos up for free, you can subscribe for more.
As do many other creators.

As do GW..

I thought it was great! So many people complaining about the animation quality, but I think it is spot on. They made a deliberate animation choice. I get mega late 80's/90's comic feel from it. I feel like it could have been a part of "Heavy Metal", and it would have fit just fine. Not everything is going to look like Astartes, or some hugely funded studio animation.

It makes me excited to see what else they have, and it seriously makes me consider a subscription.

I think half the time the animation style works really well, the other half it really doesn't.

Also it switching to a sort of grimdark painting looking style randomly at times doesn't help.

The_Real_Chris wrote:
Fairly low quality stuff, wouldn’t have me subscribe at Netflix level prices.

Ah, but Netflix doesn't come with a shiny exclusive model

Sarouan wrote:

 kirotheavenger wrote:
I mentally calculated the value of their lore, batreps, and painting tutorials as zero.

That content is already available, for free, on Youtube and at much higher quality than what I'm sure GW will ever be able to put out.

Yeah, sure, it's not like GW doesn't have lots of skilled painters already in their painting studio.

And it's not like Duncan's own business doesn't already propose subscribing for painting videos on his site and he's still not going bankrupt, even though there are lots of "free, higher quality videos" elsewhere.

Hyperbole again without even knowing what will be put on, anyway. Power of prejudices.


I wonder though if they'll keep using Brightcove for their Warhammer + videos.

The difference is Duncan Rhodes has loads of free videos, as does every other painter out there on YT. There are countless batrep channels thagt I suspect will be vastly better than anything GW can produce because they're not railroaded into being a purely marketing service. Likewise, lore videos are available on YT, not that I'm really a fan of that type of video anyway.

I agree with Kiro here. The only thing of any potential value to me in the WH+ package is the animations and the model. The assassin's fine, I guess, but I hate the big statue and I already have 2 Vindicares so it's not really providing any extra value to me. The animation they just previewed was...fine. If it was on Netflix or Disney+ I wouldn't begrudge watching an episode or two if the story was something of interest but when it's the only thing on your service it needs to be a lot better than that, IMO, to persuade me to spend money on it.

I'll also add a vote of agreement. Batreps and painting tutorials of good quality are already available online for free so they don't add any value to Warhammer+. The only value in Warhammer+ would be the free model and the animations, neither of which are enticing to me.

That said our household isn't a fan of monthly subscriptions so outside of Netflix which we've had since the late 2000s we've never really been tempted by anything else.

I was pleasantly surprised by this little preview. I rolled my eyes when it started but about the time the squigs were on screen, I was getting into it. I've always been a fan of old Ork fluff and Commissar Yarrick, so seeing the Ork POV on this was really cool. The direction and writing softened the subpar animation.

Will I get GW's channel? Hell no! Was this something I enjoyed for free today? Totally

 The Red Hobbit wrote:
I'll also add a vote of agreement. Batreps and painting tutorials of good quality are already available online for free so they don't add any value to Warhammer+. The only value in Warhammer+ would be the free model and the animations, neither of which are enticing to me.

Don't worry, I'm sure eventually GW will 'take care' of those two for you so that you can enjoy all this fantastic Warhammer(tm) content in only one place!

Wouldn't cancel fan animations for this.

The very ending was funny enough to make this a decent watch.

Well I do like the 80s styling and it would be fine if its fan animation (actually very good if that is the case!) but I have bit higher standards if its supposed to be for suscription service.

If that was supposed to be a showpiece to try and get people to think it's worth subscribing, then IMO it's failed badly. I expect my animation to have some actual animation in it and not look like a flash video I downloaded 20 years ago.

Watched it. I'm sure the people behind it poured their skills and time into the episode, but I'm afraid either GW gave them shoestring budget or their skills just aren't up to professional level animation. This would be great as a fan-project, but as something you're supposed to pay for later, not at all.

More of a slideshow than a cartoon and is there a worse framing device than "let me tell you a story"?

Hmm it was ok - had some fun bits.....did not like all the animaiton - seemed several styles mixed together.

The story was fun, covered the Yarrick books well and certainly had a 40k feel. The animation worked well enough IMO.

As for the subscription, 5$ a month is practically nothing, and that assassin mini is cool, so might try it out.

The first four minutes were insufferable, after that it was good. I was entertained, though not impressed.