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I agree, Cadians are meh and this is mostly meh. This would be moderately exciting if the fortification datasheets and Inquisition mini-codex was going to be an actual update to the rules for those units/terrain pieces, etc. - but they won't be, they'll most likely be a copypaste of the existing with a few minor and unexciting tweaks.

The one plus of this is that the Fortress of Redemption having a datasheet included in the book hints that they might bring it back into production, in which case I'm buying 2 or 3 of them. The downside of that though is that this was clearly a missed opportunity to bring the rest of the wall of martyrs range out of retirement (I want Firestorm Redoubts and Aquila Strongpoints damnit).

Hmm - did the last printing of the =][= stuff include the Ordo Malleus =][= in Terminator Armour, who appears to be missing here?

 bullyboy wrote:
Yeah, even though I'm interested in the Deathwatch list, I'm not rebuying this material.
Also, with nids and guard getting crusade rules in here, that pretty much pushes their respective codexes way down the line.

I'm sure it does push their codexes down the line, and it is unconscionable to me. Both armies will remain broken (i.e. basically nonfunctional in moderately competitive games without huge min maxing) for the foreseeable future. This is worse than 7th; at least back then, Nids still got a few new models.

Dakka: Complains that Codex isn't out yet.
Also Dakka: Complains when a book is released to tide those late release factions over.

 Gert wrote:
Dakka: Complains that Codex isn't out yet.
Also Dakka: Complains when a book is released to tide those late release factions over.

Gert: Thinks these two things are somehow mutually exclusive.
Also Gert: Somehow missed how much material in this is just reprinted or 2 page DLC for books that are already out (or not even out, in some weird cases).

 Gert wrote:
Dakka: Complains that Codex isn't out yet.
Also Dakka: Complains when a book is released to tide those late release factions over.

Dakka rightfully complains when GW is releasing old material with new high price. I play Deathwatch, you really think I'm going to spend $60 for 2 pages? Nope!!

Its also not an update for Guard or Nids, its an update for Cadia and Leviathan. Too bad if you don't play those specific factions.

 Gert wrote:
Dakka: Complains that Codex isn't out yet.
Also Dakka: Complains when a book is released to tide those late release factions over.

Let's WaIt AnD SeE if things change materially enough to TiDe ThEm OvEr. History gives us reason to be skeptical, it's not likely for this to be the Harlequins WD supplement.

 bullyboy wrote:
Dakka rightfully complains when GW is releasing old material with new high price. I play Deathwatch, you really think I'm going to spend $60 for 2 pages? Nope!!

And that's you making a choice as a consumer. I'm just poking fun at everyone complaining all the time
For me it's good because I play DW, Guard that often use the Cadian rules, and have some Inquisition minis to go along with my DW.

Its also not an update for Guard or Nids, its an update for Cadia and Leviathan. Too bad if you don't play those specific factions.

Guard get Crusade content and Nids get Crusade content + that appendix. It's not just Cadia and Leviathan. The main reason I've not been playing my Guard is that I really want to do a Crusade but the Marine stuff is lacklustre and the Druhkari stuff requires me to paint them which I am struggling with rn. Oh yeah also there's lore and I love me my stories.

 Gene St. Ealer wrote:
Let's WaIt AnD SeE if things change materially enough to TiDe ThEm OvEr. History gives us reason to be skeptical, it's not likely for this to be the Harlequins WD supplement.

No need to be rude.

And now onto the 30th to see the teaser for book 2….

 Gert wrote:

No need to be rude.

Why am I "being rude" but you're "poking fun"? I don't see a real difference in our tones, and I disagree with your assertion. That said, I apologize and I'll back off, but I remain skeptical that this $60 book will do anything to tide my army over.

 bullyboy wrote:

Its also not an update for Guard or Nids, its an update for Cadia and Leviathan. Too bad if you don't play those specific factions.

The Crusade & Synaptic Link rules work for all Nids, not just Leviathan.

New terrain kit, center?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/0iMlXR717OrA0waR.jpg

It looks like a modular fortification of some kind. Defensive walls plus a blockhouse at the very least.

Also, once again Teal Supremacy prevails for painting.

It's the base for the Fortress of Redemption, which is apparently no longer sold.

They took the DA statuary off and didn't put the buttressing on the middle bit.

No legendary missions? :(

 Dysartes wrote:
Hmm - did the last printing of the =][= stuff include the Ordo Malleus =][= in Terminator Armour, who appears to be missing here?

It did indeed.

I could say I’m excited to get new Inquisition stuff, but I know it’ll just be reprints of the white dwarf index again from 2 years ago, just with even less stuff.

chaos0xomega wrote:
The one plus of this is that the Fortress of Redemption having a datasheet included in the book hints that they might bring it back into production, in which case I'm buying 2 or 3 of them. The downside of that though is that this was clearly a missed opportunity to bring the rest of the wall of martyrs range out of retirement (I want Firestorm Redoubts and Aquila Strongpoints damnit).

Fortress of Redemption is still available in the UK and Europe. Not sure why they seem to no longer sell in the US / Australia

Temporarily out of stock on the official store (https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Fortress-of-Redemption) but still in stock at third parties such as https://elementgames.co.uk/games-workshop/warhammer-40k/warhammer-40k-scenery/fortress-of-redemption

Cadians shrug off wounds like a GW fan takes price rises. Magnificent.

Joyboozer wrote:
Cadians shrug off wounds like a GW fan takes price rises. Magnificent.

1/6 more than most do?

chaos0xomega wrote:
I agree, Cadians are meh and this is mostly meh. This would be moderately exciting if the fortification datasheets and Inquisition mini-codex was going to be an actual update to the rules for those units/terrain pieces, etc. - but they won't be, they'll most likely be a copypaste of the existing with a few minor and unexciting tweaks.

The one plus of this is that the Fortress of Redemption having a datasheet included in the book hints that they might bring it back into production, in which case I'm buying 2 or 3 of them. The downside of that though is that this was clearly a missed opportunity to bring the rest of the wall of martyrs range out of retirement (I want Firestorm Redoubts and Aquila Strongpoints damnit).

Even better, bring back the vengeance batteries and reprint the plasma obliterator!

But they don't sell 'em, and only mad lads like me have them in abundance.

This isn't for Guard players.

It's for Cadian players.

In my eyes? This is awesome.
They found a way to differentiate Whiteshields from the trash squads that Conscripts are.

Really not seeing the big hoopla over "Cadia Stands!". It's not like it's baked into the unit like "Augmented Mount" is for Death Riders or characters/vehicles like Cult of Sacrifice is for DKoK as a Regimental trait.
Is it strong? Yeah. But this is the game as it stands now. These kinds of stratagems exist, sorry.

This is for Guard players, as it will be the only way to play Guard competitively until our codex drops. It's literally 7th edition Cadian codex supplement all over again.


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 Dysartes wrote:
Hmm - did the last printing of the =][= stuff include the Ordo Malleus =][= in Terminator Armour, who appears to be missing here?

I'm hoping they make the named Inquisitors more viable. Or allow the other Inquisition options to be taken alongside an Inquisitor in some way.

And every guard player can simply write cadia as regiment to army list. Done

Oh, the Inquisition! I wasn't expecting that. I really wish they actually do some updating to the rules this time. Letting Inquisitors to wear power armour again and giving the henchmen too the rule that allows them to be included without breaking army/detachment bonuses would be on top of my list.

When we will see the first reviews of this?

Giving Inquisitors access to power armour again would indeed be a dream come true, but chances of that happening..

 Crimson wrote:
Oh, the Inquisition! I wasn't expecting that.

I see what you did there.

 BrookM wrote:
Giving Inquisitors access to power armour again would indeed be a dream come true, but chances of that happening..

I'm still shocked we've yet to see a Build-Your-Own-Inquisitor box. I know GW is allergic to options these days, but you'd think they'd make an exception for the guys/gals who stand out as being the most individually unique. They could even charge a stupid price for it and get the white knights to justify it as "but look at all the Bits(tm) you get!!!"

 Crimson wrote:
When we will see the first reviews of this?

Saturday when the influencers are allowed to advertise it to us.

Something along the lines of the old space marine commander boxed set would be ace, but something tells me it'll be through Kill Team that we may see the inevitable streamline and renewal of the Inquisition.

I'm getting super hyped about this book, I'm already collecting cadians and the nids have a soft spot in me, in fact, I'm considering about starting a leviathan army. Plus, I have some inquisition models and fortress of redemption, so this book is a solid win for me. And of course, all of the lore is exciting as well.

 Crimson wrote:


When we will see the first reviews of this?

They put out an embargo for their products, embargo drop is normally with the start of preorder. Its 11am in Germany Saturdays.

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