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 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Thinking next Monday is probably the first proper peek at Tyranids. And our rumoured Parasite is going to be Combat Patrol locked.

And the box will have 16 of the current Genestealers, a Trygon, and 3 Hive Guard.

We have two Combat Patrols still unaccounted for, in the form of the GSC+Custodes.

They did an article on January 10th that "premiered" the GSC, Custodes, GK, TS, and Tau Combat Patrols.

No mention was made of Aeldari Combat Patrol there, and now it's potentially coming out ahead of the GSC and Custodes one?

Literally the only reason I'm mentioning this "technicality" is that we had a release list hinting towards some significant stuff. A lot of which could be Combat Patrol contents...specifically released to bulk up some books which may or may not see mechanical changes.

Releasing combat patrols wouldn't not make the next Codex release Tyranids though.

As Sabre said, you're taking that 'well, technically' aspect of this and stretching it to the point where it's becoming transparent.

 Kanluwen wrote:
*shrug*

We'll see. I hope it's Tyranids, just making sure people don't get their expectations super high. There has been nothing 100% definitive, and as we're seeing with GK+Thousand Sons...they don't necessarily need a codex to release a Combat Patrol.

You mean the cp's that came after codex? Not before?

Those came to support codex. Aka they did need codex. Every cp so far has came for new codex.

Today's update is everyone's favourite useless unit...

You asked for it - Tyrant Guard time. Hilariously, someone in the discord actually exactly predicted their statline when doing a wishlist - 6" move, s5 t6, 4 wounds, 3 attacks, and a 2+ save. Unsurprisingly, they gain the 9th edition bodyguard rule, but only for hive tyrants and swarmlord. They also get +1 attack while near a hive tyrant.

Their crushing claws become s+3 ap-3 d2 but no -1 to hit, while their lash whip and bonesword is s+2 ap-2 d2 with rr1s to hit.

[Rending claws] s+1 ap-4 d1

...which definitely seems spicier now. Getting excited for these guys to finally be useful outside Apocalypse games for once.

gotta get me some tyrant guard

Nahh, too bad I find the models hideous

Bodyguard for monsters is crazy, man. In a recent game against my son, I couldn't shoot One Eye off the board because he was running right next to a Carnifex with spore cysts. Even Dark Eldar don't like a full health One Eye slamming into their lines.

Man with those stats, I want to run Tyrant Guards! I love the unit thematically, so if they become viable as both bodyguards and by themself that would be a huge win!

Their weapon options are really tasty on surface so far and could be really fun to use (Talons at +2 attacks, Claws finally not at -1 to hit).

3/4/2022:

The Maw-Claws of Thyrax: generic relic for all characters (you no longer need to have a specific weapon for it). The bearer gains +1 attack and can reroll wounds in the fight phase. In addition, every time it kills a model in the fight phase, it gains +1 attack for the rest of the battle (it can gain up to +3 attacks this way).

There is also a Warlord trait to give the warlord a 5+ Feel No Pain

Tyrannocytes gain true drop pod status, with the ability to enter from reserves on turn 1. Up to 20 infantry models or a monster of up to 16 wounds

Sporocysts can be deployed anywhere on the table outside 12" of enemies and the enemy deployment zone

That's a pretty good generic relic now, really interesting! I can see it being quite useful! Considering the states of our relic, it's not to get anything better anyway

Same for the warlord trait, will be very strong on big monsters (Tervigon please be good!). Again, compared the lackluster choices we have right now, not hard to beat!

5+ FNP? Good lord, my Crusher stampede is now having to consider that or the D3 extra attacks!

Just would like someone to find out the status of the Synaptic Hive Blades and our Slayer Tyrant build, thanks.

I dun wanna be sad for my character assassin XD

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tyranids/comments/t7oygk/new_genestealer_stats_lets_see_if_we_are_as_toxic/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

New genestealers. Nearly the same as GSC Genestealers, but with ws3+ and LD8. I could live with that if Tyranids Genestealers are also 4++

Bago wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tyranids/comments/t7oygk/new_genestealer_stats_lets_see_if_we_are_as_toxic/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

New genestealers. Nearly the same as GSC Genestealers, but with ws3+ and LD8. I could live with that if Tyranids Genestealers are also 4++

With WS3+ I expect they'll be a larger unit cap than the 10 models purestrains get, and might keep +1 to hit from Broodlords too

Interesting that there is no stats for the talons, or head options. That might just be the EZ-Start nature of the box rules though.

4 attacks with a flat AP-3? Kiss armor goodbye.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
4 attacks with a flat AP-3? Kiss armor goodbye.

Don’t the rumors have them going to elites?

Eldar Dire Avengers just some some major buffs, but moved from troops to elites. I could see the same thing being done here.

Stealers did make a name for themselves by carving their way through a space hulk worth of terminators.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
4 attacks with a flat AP-3? Kiss armor goodbye.

Don’t the rumors have them going to elites?

Eldar Dire Avengers just some some major buffs, but moved from troops to elites. I could see the same thing being done here.

Stealers did make a name for themselves by carving their way through a space hulk worth of terminators.

Not seeing a problem with that. Moving them to Elites means you can either do a Crusher Stampede or a horde army really well. Swramlord, Hive Tyrant, Broodlord, plus 60 each of Hormagaunts, Termagants, and Genestealers. Good luck trying to kill it all before it reaches you.

I like the idea of hivefleet stealers having a slightly different statline to purestrains.

My own headcannon is genestealers are far more dangerous when left to their own devices (unlike the majority of nids, they have the capacity for independent learning)

So I'm fine with hivefleet ones being ws3+ but also having numbers. Hopefully fleet ones will retain larger max squad sizes.

On the gaunt changes, I've enough gaunt models that weapon stat changes are'nt gonna be a problem, as big blobs of hormies and fleshborer gaunts was always kinda my thing (stoked for better fleshborers if that turns out to be true, only have a few devourer ones) ).

Really hoping the hormie pre battle move thing is accurate ( I can currently field 3 units of 30 with more left to build..well, i say build, more like fix..so many bases to repair..)

Throwing huge blobs of them forward to pressure the enemy early is always what hormagaunts have been described as being used for, so this is very cool if true.

Also really happy that my all time fav nid model (classic vc/lw/bonesword tyrant) looks to be a lot tougher and dare I hope, actually useful??

Looks like I'm also gonna have to dig around the back of the cave to fine my old tyrantguard. Don't think I've used them since about 4th ed!!

Today's rumors/leaks are Tyrannofex guns.

Acid Spray heavy D6+6 S6 Ap-3 D2.

Fleshborer Hive assault 30 S5 Ap-1

Rupture Cannon heavy 3 S14 Ap-4 DD6+4

Stinger Salvo assault 8 S5 Ap-1.

 Tyran wrote:
Today's rumors/leaks are Tyrannofex guns.

Acid Spray heavy D6+6 S6 Ap-3 D2.

Fleshborer Hive assault 30 S5 Ap-1

Rupture Cannon heavy 3 S14 Ap-4 DD6+4

Stinger Salvo assault 8 S5 Ap-1.

Hive and Stinger are D1?

Yes, and the Tyrannofex is BS3+.

Goes without saying but it also lost the shoot twice if stationary rule.

Mmmh, Rupture Cannon. Feels like it's gonna do some fun things.

Seeing Genestealer head options and scything talons ignored jives with what we heard about carnifex biomorphs also losing rules. Really unfortunate to see an army with some of the most clever and diverse kits as far as bit options go get boiled down this hard. I feel as though someone in the rule design team is identifiable by their mantra of pulling rules complexity off units and putting it into army abilities instead, we've seen similar decisions made in a couple 9E codexes by now.

Yeah, doubling down on what I already didn't like about 9th.

 Kanluwen wrote:
We have two Combat Patrols still unaccounted for, in the form of the GSC+Custodes.

They did an article on January 10th that "premiered" the GSC, Custodes, GK, TS, and Tau Combat Patrols.

No mention was made of Aeldari Combat Patrol there, and now it's potentially coming out ahead of the GSC and Custodes one?

Literally the only reason I'm mentioning this "technicality" is that we had a release list hinting towards some significant stuff. A lot of which could be Combat Patrol contents...specifically released to bulk up some books which may or may not see mechanical changes.

Thousand Sons & Grey Knights in March, then Aeldari in April - WarCom. No mention of GSC or Custodes.

beast_gts wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
We have two Combat Patrols still unaccounted for, in the form of the GSC+Custodes.

They did an article on January 10th that "premiered" the GSC, Custodes, GK, TS, and Tau Combat Patrols.

No mention was made of Aeldari Combat Patrol there, and now it's potentially coming out ahead of the GSC and Custodes one?

Literally the only reason I'm mentioning this "technicality" is that we had a release list hinting towards some significant stuff. A lot of which could be Combat Patrol contents...specifically released to bulk up some books which may or may not see mechanical changes.

Thousand Sons & Grey Knights in March, then Aeldari in April - WarCom. No mention of GSC or Custodes.

Stands to reason the GSC/custodes boxes will be put end of April or maybe May.

 Tyran wrote:
Today's rumors/leaks are Tyrannofex guns.

Acid Spray heavy D6+6 S6 Ap-3 D2.

Assuming it still auto hits, that's pretty much marine squad deletion per turn, with just a minimal amount of wound re-rolls.

Fleshborer Hive assault 30 S5 Ap-1

Ugh. I remember when 20 shots seemed gross and out of line for the game. Now it feels gross and also just wasting my time.

Rupture Cannon heavy 3 S14 Ap-4 DD6+4

At least it doesn't ignore invulnerable saves. But it says something about how much they've warped the meta this past year: this feels... merely ok. Sure it can probably reliably drop a tank per turn with the right support, but why would anyone field tanks?

Stinger Salvo assault 8 S5 Ap-1.

Yeah. Nothing quite like almost 3 old school heavy bolters (D1) as the generic backup weapon.


The way this game feels these days...
Also genestealers-- tastes like consolidation. Not sure I disapprove, but it depends how inconsistently over-described other weapons & options are.

Voss wrote:

Rupture Cannon heavy 3 S14 Ap-4 DD6+4

At least it doesn't ignore invulnerable saves. But it says something about how much they've warped the meta this past year: this feels... merely ok. Sure it can probably reliably drop a tank per turn with the right support, but why would anyone field tanks?

It's a fun little cold war. It can drop a tank a turn as can railguns etc. But these guns are on... tank platforms.

Dudeface wrote:

Voss wrote:

Rupture Cannon heavy 3 S14 Ap-4 DD6+4

At least it doesn't ignore invulnerable saves. But it says something about how much they've warped the meta this past year: this feels... merely ok. Sure it can probably reliably drop a tank per turn with the right support, but why would anyone field tanks?

It's a fun little cold war. It can drop a tank a turn as can railguns etc. But these guns are on... tank platforms.

It's better than some main guns mounted on super heavies. Including ones with 9th edition rules.