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2022/04/02 11:52:59
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Norn Queen
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It's important to draw the distinctions between the UNSC which is a military organization fighting for the survival of the entire species and hiding/protecting the location of Earth and ONI which is a completely evil, the ends justifies everything organization that would kill billions without a blink of an eye if they thought it served their greater purpose. Even if that greater purpose aligns with the ones the UNSC has. ONI for all intents and purposes is it's own separate entity that does all kinds of fethed up gak in the name of their projects.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2022/04/02 12:20:37
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Lance845 wrote:It's important to draw the distinctions between the UNSC which is a military organization fighting for the survival of the entire species and hiding/protecting the location of Earth and ONI which is a completely evil, the ends justifies everything organization that would kill billions without a blink of an eye if they thought it served their greater purpose. Even if that greater purpose aligns with the ones the UNSC has. ONI for all intents and purposes is it's own separate entity that does all kinds of fethed up gak in the name of their projects.
The series seems to make no such distinction. Maybe I missed it, but I don't think ONI has been mentioned at all. Rather, the entire UNSC is just acting like ONI.
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2022/04/04 13:56:45
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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I liked the first episode (I have almost no knowledge about the Halo universum so if there are any errors in the series they are invisible to me.), and intend to watch the second. So far it looks far more interesting than the Mandalorian (which I gave up after episode 5), although I may be biased because from SW I only ever liked their light sabers.
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2022/04/04 14:08:13
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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Shadow Walker wrote:I liked the first episode (I have almost no knowledge about the Halo universum so if there are any errors in the series they are invisible to me.), and intend to watch the second. So far it looks far more interesting than the Mandalorian (which I gave up after episode 5), although I may be biased because from SW I only ever liked their light sabers.
I think the show is aimed specifically at people who have heard of Halo and maybe played it a couple times years ago rather than hardcore fans. The second episode is more of a character building slow burn setup from what I've heard.
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2022/04/04 14:17:41
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I especially liked the part in the second episode where Mr Chief walked into a wretched hive of scum and villainy, full of people who were openly hostile to him, and didn’t bother to put his helmet back on first.
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2022/04/04 14:18:04
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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I have only played the first game, and thought it was just "ok", but I'm a PC player so it wasn't so groundbreaking.
That said, the series is... baffling. It seems to concentrate on all the stuff people either don't care about (human politics, the new character et al) while at the same time ignoring or rewriting the stuff people did want (the ONI/Earth Government and military dichotomy, most of the human characters which apparently have received heavy rewrites, the covenant diversity...)
Like many times lately, I have to question who is this aimed at.
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2022/04/04 14:30:00
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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Albertorius wrote:I have only played the first game, and thought it was just "ok", but I'm a PC player so it wasn't so groundbreaking. That said, the series is... baffling. It seems to concentrate on all the stuff people either don't care about (human politics, the new character et al) while at the same time ignoring or rewriting the stuff people did want (the ONI/Earth Government and military dichotomy, most of the human characters which apparently have received heavy rewrites, the covenant diversity...) Like many times lately, I have to question who is this aimed at. Honestly, you IMO. If you hadn't read/heard/watched the criticism from longtime fans of the IP (games, comics, novels, short films, etc), would those things have bothered you? I think with modern Hollywood ignorance is bliss by design. I wasn't a fan of the Wheel of Time series on Amazon and actively disliked the first and last episodes but the middle ones were ok. Nothing that will spark an interest in the books or IP for me but rather just mediocre throwaway entertainment for a book series that I was unfamiliar with other than the cover of the first novel. That wasn't the case with friends of mine that read the novels for decades who actively hated every episode to varying degrees.
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2022/04/04 15:52:05
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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From what I have seen of the franchise (Halo 1, videos of Halo: Reach, the videos from Blomkamp and Forward Unto Dawn)... yes, pretty much. I didn't really need to see any criticism to see that I rather be seeing FUD or the Blomkamp vids again instead.
The action scene of ep 1 was cool, except for there only being elites, which was weird and all, but after that it kinda peters out fast.
OTOH, I was a big Wheel of Time fan back in the day and so far I've found the series entertaining enough, so...
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2022/04/06 18:50:32
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well at least episode 2 confirmed opinions of episode 1...
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2022/04/07 10:57:31
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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After watching 2nd and 3rd, I like the show even more. Some part of me wants to check every piece of Halo info out there but at the same time I do not want to 'corrupt' myself with the pre-knowledge.
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2022/04/07 11:02:34
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Not sure that'll be an issue. Some of the changes they made are big enough that it probably changes a lot about how things play out.
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2022/04/07 11:35:53
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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Yeah, it's like taking an off ramp from a highway. The longer you're on it, the further you go away from the highway. If you're not already big into the Halo game/EU canon, it's probably best to just first finish the season watch for a complete frame of reference before delving into the normal lore.
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2022/04/07 12:14:16
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I find it neat how Cortana is CGI instead of a live actor.
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2022/04/08 02:35:57
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Is the Cortana VA the same one from the game (only ever played the first Halo game.)
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2022/04/08 04:01:03
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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chromedog wrote:Is the Cortana VA the same one from the game (only ever played the first Halo game.)
Yes, I'm pretty sure it's Jen Taylor, who voiced the character in all the games.
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2022/04/08 11:57:03
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Ep3 was more interesting, IMHO. Still nothing remotely like what I know from the games, but interesting by itself.
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2022/04/08 14:28:00
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
London
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But it is terrible Sci Fi, the implications of their tech simply aren't followed through into the setting. I get it from a game perspective, its fundamentally a standard shooter with some eye catching candy. But really we have a world where it makes economic sense to have children sort recycling and adults oversee them, while having AI's, robots, interstellar travel and the like. Even just supplying them food is more resource than they are creating.
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2022/04/21 13:26:10
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Well this week’s episode should resolve the complaint about the lack of diversity in the Covenant forces at least.
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2022/04/21 14:48:13
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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AduroT wrote:Well this week’s episode should resolve the complaint about the lack of diversity in the Covenant forces at least.
Yeah, it was fun to watch all those combined races fighting. Automatically Appended Next Post: The_Real_Chris wrote:But it is terrible Sci Fi, the implications of their tech simply aren't followed through into the setting. I get it from a game perspective, its fundamentally a standard shooter with some eye catching candy. But really we have a world where it makes economic sense to have children sort recycling and adults oversee them, while having AI's, robots, interstellar travel and the like. Even just supplying them food is more resource than they are creating.
Unless they are looking in that trash for something of a real value that somehow justifies the costs. BTW I do not say you are wrong, as I do not know the universe of Halo, just speculating
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2022/04/21 15:04:59
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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AduroT wrote:Well this week’s episode should resolve the complaint about the lack of diversity in the Covenant forces at least. So female prophets and elites of color? Kidding. I saw clips of jackals with power swords and grunts from apparently todays episode. I'm glad they added a few more races. Automatically Appended Next Post: Shadow Walker wrote: The_Real_Chris wrote:But it is terrible Sci Fi, the implications of their tech simply aren't followed through into the setting. I get it from a game perspective, its fundamentally a standard shooter with some eye catching candy. But really we have a world where it makes economic sense to have children sort recycling and adults oversee them, while having AI's, robots, interstellar travel and the like. Even just supplying them food is more resource than they are creating.
Unless they are looking in that trash for something of a real value that somehow justifies the costs. BTW I do not say you are wrong, as I do not know the universe of Halo, just speculating Unlike other things, I can see a justification for this at least even though I don't like them turning the Halo-universe government dystopian BEFORE the Covenant near total apocalypse. Even in todays world of AI, smart phones, cloud computing, and next day delivery of almost every conceivable want, there are whole small cities built near garbage dumps in Africa where people scavange for anything that can be resold for food and addiction.
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2022/04/21 15:10:20
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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It makes sense really. The first fight was a small strike force to retrieve a believed unguarded relic, so just a team of elites is understandable, and seems to be their MO when dealing with the relics and stuff involving them. This time they were attacking a military camp and went in heavy, bringing a lot more of their forces to bear in a full on assault.
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2022/04/21 15:26:26
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Which are a thing BTW. The Prophets being a sexual species obviously have females, with a few of them being characters in the Covenant centric novel Broken Cycle. As for Elites, there are different ethnicities with different skin colors. Compare the Arbiter's darker grey skin with Jul Mdama's lighter, almost white skin. blue, brown and black are other known skin colors.
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2022/04/21 15:37:48
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Powerful Ushbati
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Olthannon wrote:I've yet to watch it but it just seems odd. Why not leave the helmet on and have Steve Downes doing the voice? Why not just base the TV show on one of the numerous books?
I will eventually probably watch it. Maybe they purposefully made a bunch of changes to make it standalone.
Because as the shows own writing team has said: Halo showrunner Steven Kane revealed the creative team behind the upcoming Paramount+ series avoided looking at the video games that inspired it.
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2022/04/21 15:41:14
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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It was a joke. Also, I read the novels that came out prior to Halo IV's release and played the games until then.
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2022/04/22 03:15:48
Subject: Re:Halo everybody!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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The show started off pretty slow overall, but by God it just got good. Nice to see the Spartans finally fighting and kicking Covenant ass instead of talking and having an existential crisis.
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2022/04/22 05:03:08
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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I have only played the games, not read the books. Show has been interesting so far, but a little less action that I was anticipating.
But since I know the future, I know things are about to hit the fan. About to watch the latest episode.
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2022/04/22 13:48:30
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Wow, CBS is gaking all over Angry Joe's channel, and it has apparently riled him up enough to threaten them with court action:
https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/u7iozf/4th_time_cbs_blocks_angryjoes_review_not_a_good/
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2022/04/youtuber-angry-joe-threatens-to-take-cbs-to-court-over-halo-dispute
https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/21/angry-joe-threatens-to-sue-cbs-over-continued-dmca-claims-on-halo-tv-show-review-videos/
As to the series proper, it's... ok. The action is cool, some of the other stuff is cool, the helmeting/unhelmeting almost every minute looks stupid, the Madrigal subplot of Kwan and Soren is... pointless and boring, for the most part, but at least there's some things to enjoy.
Highlight of the series for me is Cortana, though.
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2022/04/22 15:19:51
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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They're doing the same to the Salty Nerd Podcast, a much smaller channel. They basically have to repost episode reviews 2-4 times for it to not be blocked and it's still claimed so CBS makes all of whatever pennies are left by that point in ad revenue.
I'm hoping Angry Joe is able to effect real change even if temporary and just for a single show.
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2022/04/22 15:22:29
Subject: Halo everybody!
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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At this point it makes them look awfully petty, TBH.
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2022/04/22 15:56:48
Subject: Re:Halo everybody!
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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I read the title of this post in a certain way and all I could think of was “Hi Dr. Nick!”
The plastic glue must be getting to me.
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