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 Mr_Rose wrote:
So you’re saying these aren’t blatantly ripped off the APU mech suits in Matrix: Revolutions?
Actually, no, you’re right; wait for the slightly bigger two-gun version.

I may be missing the sarcasm or something, but they are substantially different from the APUs.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
So you’re saying these aren’t blatantly ripped off the APU mech suits in Matrix: Revolutions?
Actually, no, you’re right; wait for the slightly bigger two-gun version.

I’m saying they aren’t a rip off of any of the many many many exo suits in sci-fi films! A two gun heavy suit like the matrix ones would be cool though!

I'm a bit surprised their weapons aren't connected to ammo on their back like Devastators and Havocs are, seems like that would have made sense with the Exo-suit. Especially when there's a heavy-bolter type weapon coming.

I really love those new fellas, but is it just me or is the Squats range a bit all over the place when it comes to its design philosophy?

I really like them. Would like to see one with a helmet and what other options are in the kit. The Leagues look to have a nice breadth to the range with a good few unifying elements. They really do look like a lot of fun.Wondering if they will do a full reveal at NOVA- hopefully with an Army Box up for imminent order as well.

 Malika2 wrote:
I really love those new fellas, but is it just me or is the Squats range a bit all over the place when it comes to its design philosophy?

On the whole they have an industrial astronaut vibe but the more specific themes for each model have been a bit all over the place. It's like they can't really decide what to go for and each new model is a different direction.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I'm a bit surprised their weapons aren't connected to ammo on their back like Devastators and Havocs are, seems like that would have made sense with the Exo-suit. Especially when there's a heavy-bolter type weapon coming.

I did think that -especially with the bolt cannon as it would look cool belt fed, but it might have a drum magazine instead- seems to be a thing with them?


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 Malika2 wrote:
I really love those new fellas, but is it just me or is the Squats range a bit all over the place when it comes to its design philosophy?

Looks to me more like variation of themes around a core of design elements- like the void suits, the roll cages on these and the vehicle ..looks like they willl be interesting to collect. Probably will make more sense when we see a full army laid out.

 Strg Alt wrote:

Spoiler:

 warboss wrote:

Andykp wrote:
New article up. Thunders.
I like them, I think.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/22/drop-the-wrench-and-pick-up-the-cannon-the-brokhyr-thunderkyn-are-marching-to-war/

I do too. I like the idea and their execution of an exoframe that isn't primarily armor but rather enhanced strength/mobility.

Blatant Edge of Tomorrow rip-off. Since when has Tom Cruise a beard? And more importantly: Where is Emily Blunt? I would have bought an exosuit with her in it. But creepy garden gnomes?! No way.

Unless one of the optional bits is a pair of visibly bare butt cheeks, I have to completely disagree.


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 Malika2 wrote:
I really love those new fellas, but is it just me or is the Squats range a bit all over the place when it comes to its design philosophy?

There are differences between the heavy and medium type armors but I personally see a logical progression within those two groups (with the Necromunda squats being a third asthetic track) though I agree there are significant differences between them.

It kind of feels like the Votann have a few distinct "subfractions" within themselves, with slightly distinct aesthetics, when it comes to their getups, from thick StarCraft esque power armour with runes on it for the Warriors, to the slapdash exposed machinery Edge of Tomorrow getups for the Engineers.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
It kind of feels like the Votann have a few distinct "subfractions" within themselves, with slightly distinct aesthetics, when it comes to their getups, from thick StarCraft esque power armour with runes on it for the Warriors, to the slapdash exposed machinery Edge of Tomorrow getups for the Engineers.

That was sort of the case with the original Squats too, the basic Squat Warriors had a different style from the Guilds who had a different style from the Hearthguard. I feel like their technology and equipment should have stayed fairly cohesive at least but we've got several different directions for that in a way where the armoured astronaut vibe is the only real element that ties them together.

Andykp wrote:


Land fortress!

Sounds like something that would feature in a GI Joe commerical, and now very excited!

I think everything has core elements that tie it all together.

To me it feels a bit roman legion. You have the line infantry and officers that have a very distinct look combined with that transport truck thing that maintains the same look. The terminators fall into the same professional aesthetic.

Then you have the auxiliary forces. Stuff like berserks, bike scouts, heavy weapon teams.

Honestly I kinda love the idea.

Honestly you look at any real world army and it has divisions and structures that are different from each other. Certain different squads in different gear from different generations, equipment purchases and focus.


Wargames are the same, any army that grows large enough will have distinct niches and groups. Sometimes they are really obvious like in Tau between Tau and Kroot; sometimes its more muted.

So yeah I'd expect some visual variety, otherwise everything is far too samey.


Things look different when you're not hyper focusing on each individual element and instead see a whole army as a combined single force on the table.



Squats are clearly going for a mix of formal army and scout-rangers with a more rough and ready look to them.

 Myrthe wrote:
I like them overall but :

- The leg mechanism looks to be designed and braced for forward movement and not side stepping advancing in the direction of the gun position.

- an over-the-back weapon mount would have been cool and given more angles of fire direction.

But, like I said, I like them overall and will surely get them when they come out.

I think you would still be able to pivot easily with those legs. Also it is a conversion beamer, you stay in place and fire rather than advancing with them

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I'm a bit surprised their weapons aren't connected to ammo on their back like Devastators and Havocs are, seems like that would have made sense with the Exo-suit. Especially when there's a heavy-bolter type weapon coming.

That's a good point actually. Belt fed stuff is something GW seem to have forgotten it even existed, as the new HH predator sponsons seems to indicate.

I laughed when I saw these yesterday. When I saw them again today, so too did I laugh again. I don't know what that means yet.

I really hope with the biggest reveal yet we're finally at the point where GW shows a full army picture. I'm not a fan of seeing all these units in isolation when it's as long drawn out a reveal as it's been.

 (HN) wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I'm a bit surprised their weapons aren't connected to ammo on their back like Devastators and Havocs are, seems like that would have made sense with the Exo-suit. Especially when there's a heavy-bolter type weapon coming.

That's a good point actually. Belt fed stuff is something GW seem to have forgotten it even existed, as the new HH predator sponsons seems to indicate.

The Sagitaur Auto-cannon is belt-fed, so the Squats do make use of them, at least.

Do we know roughly when these might be out yet? We've seen pretty much an armies worth of stuff already

 Shooter wrote:
Do we know roughly when these might be out yet? We've seen pretty much an armies worth of stuff already

I assume the NOVA will reveal the last few things and a limited edition army box.

NOVA promises more info. Likely a full reveal at this stage. Pre-order, who knows, maybe next month.

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 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
The real problem here is the lore that says squats were genetically engineered to be more able to survive. However, being more able to survive involves having stumpy little arms that require cybernetic extensions to use a gun properly.

Shhhhh, don't question GW amazing lore writing.

They're a space based race, chibi statures saves on reaction mass...

 Strg Alt wrote:

Blatant Edge of Tomorrow rip-off. Since when has Tom Cruise a beard?

TOM CRUISE
Spouse
Katie Holmes
m. 2006–2012

Nicole Kidman
m. 1990–2001

Mimi Rogers
m. 1987–1990

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:

Blatant Edge of Tomorrow rip-off. Since when has Tom Cruise a beard?

TOM CRUISE
Spouse
Katie Holmes
m. 2006–2012

Nicole Kidman
m. 1990–2001

Mimi Rogers
m. 1987–1990

Omg, that was SAVAGE.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 (HN) wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I'm a bit surprised their weapons aren't connected to ammo on their back like Devastators and Havocs are, seems like that would have made sense with the Exo-suit. Especially when there's a heavy-bolter type weapon coming.

That's a good point actually. Belt fed stuff is something GW seem to have forgotten it even existed, as the new HH predator sponsons seems to indicate.

The Sagitaur Auto-cannon is belt-fed, so the Squats do make use of them, at least.

Leviathan Storm Cannons have belt feeds as well.

Reminder that we're still missing whatever unit this guy is supposed to accompany - from the article it seemed like it was a Brôkhyr HQ choice - to go together with the Brôkhyr sub-faction (like the Thunderkin).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/lore-of-the-votann-introducing-the-ironkin-mechanical-members-of-the-leagues/

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Reminder that we're still missing whatever unit this guy is supposed to accompany - from the article it seemed like it was a Brôkhyr HQ choice - to go together with the Brôkhyr sub-faction (like the Thunderkin).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/lore-of-the-votann-introducing-the-ironkin-mechanical-members-of-the-leagues/

So I guess the iron face/helmet wasn't an ironkin? The flying legless miner bot was the one that I initially took as the ironkin. Regardless, I'm not a fan of this one at all as it feels a bit too much like the admech bots introduced 5ish years ago for me. Not every line can be perfect and for me this is the first previewed stinker for the main line 40k squats.

 warboss wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Reminder that we're still missing whatever unit this guy is supposed to accompany - from the article it seemed like it was a Brôkhyr HQ choice - to go together with the Brôkhyr sub-faction (like the Thunderkin).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/lore-of-the-votann-introducing-the-ironkin-mechanical-members-of-the-leagues/

So I guess the iron face/helmet wasn't an ironkin? The flying legless miner bot was the one that I initially took as the ironkin.

I was under the impression they were all Ironkin.

Each Ironkin consists of a Cerebral Unit – woven with microfield generators that make it very hard to destroy – and a unique mechanical body. An Ironkin’s body isn’t just some component to be replaced – it’s deeply personal, as much as the bodies of their fleshy cousins, and designed to fulfil a certain niche, such as mining support units, cargo luggers, combat pilots, or shock troopers.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Reminder that we're still missing whatever unit this guy is supposed to accompany - from the article it seemed like it was a Brôkhyr HQ choice - to go together with the Brôkhyr sub-faction (like the Thunderkin).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/lore-of-the-votann-introducing-the-ironkin-mechanical-members-of-the-leagues/

So I guess the iron face/helmet wasn't an ironkin? The flying legless miner bot was the one that I initially took as the ironkin.

I was under the impression they were all Ironkin.

Each Ironkin consists of a Cerebral Unit – woven with microfield generators that make it very hard to destroy – and a unique mechanical body. An Ironkin’s body isn’t just some component to be replaced – it’s deeply personal, as much as the bodies of their fleshy cousins, and designed to fulfil a certain niche, such as mining support units, cargo luggers, combat pilots, or shock troopers.

Ironkin are the AI guys, that little dude with the apron on it says helps out a Brokyhr?? iron-master, so maybe a new character type.

 warboss wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Reminder that we're still missing whatever unit this guy is supposed to accompany - from the article it seemed like it was a Brôkhyr HQ choice - to go together with the Brôkhyr sub-faction (like the Thunderkin).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/lore-of-the-votann-introducing-the-ironkin-mechanical-members-of-the-leagues/

So I guess the iron face/helmet wasn't an ironkin? The flying legless miner bot was the one that I initially took as the ironkin. Regardless, I'm not a fan of this one at all as it feels a bit too much like the admech bots introduced 5ish years ago for me. Not every line can be perfect and for me this is the first previewed stinker for the main line 40k squats.

If you mean the helmet on the Kahl, that could still be an Ironkin.

The ironkin are meant to evoke the feeling of a more sophisticated version of the Imperial Robots, because that's basically what they are. They both have similar DAoT designs in common.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Reminder that we're still missing whatever unit this guy is supposed to accompany - from the article it seemed like it was a Brôkhyr HQ choice - to go together with the Brôkhyr sub-faction (like the Thunderkin).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/lore-of-the-votann-introducing-the-ironkin-mechanical-members-of-the-leagues/

So I guess the iron face/helmet wasn't an ironkin? The flying legless miner bot was the one that I initially took as the ironkin. Regardless, I'm not a fan of this one at all as it feels a bit too much like the admech bots introduced 5ish years ago for me. Not every line can be perfect and for me this is the first previewed stinker for the main line 40k squats.

If you mean the helmet on the Kahl, that could still be an Ironkin.

The ironkin are meant to evoke the feeling of a more sophisticated version of the Imperial Robots, because that's basically what they are. They both have similar DAoT designs in common.

They even said in the design article that they robots and the LoV armour shared a similar design on purpose.