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Cheers! Thats the scheme I'm most interested in but I struggle to get a good orange. I made a custom scheme with blue/black under suit, celestral grey amour with orange helmet and shoulder pads and dark red backpack and guns for the necromunda squats. Thinking I'll evolve it a little more towards this scheme. Interested to see the parade ready version.
Iracundus wrote: Are the Orks lined up in a conga line for the rail gun to core them like that? (I know they are not but that's what that kind of rules performance conjures up as the in-universe image)
I have a mental image of the railgun shot bouncing around the entire squad like a pinball, exploding every Ork it bounces off.
Personally, I picture the bone fragments of the first casualty turning into shrapnel with all that kinetic energy.
I am really liking the helmet design, especially in contrast to the Iron Kin. Certainly makes it less obvious that some of them are Abominable Intelligence.
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bullyboy wrote: Just finished watching the first and third battle report (couldn’t stomach second one, nid player was pretty annoying). Voltann are definitely nuts, just terrible mechanics with massive damage output. If the ork player didn’t have 2 massive explosions, the Voltann would barely have lost anything.
They’re stunt games though. Hence the Votann didn’t gun for the Gorkanaut with the first Rail Gun shot.
The Naut isn't dangerous so why would they need to? I don't shoot one immediately when I see it.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I am really liking the helmet design, especially in contrast to the Iron Kin. Certainly makes it less obvious that some of them are Abominable Intelligence.
Yeah you can clearly differentiate between them and the helmet design is like several layers of armour, meaning that just by painting those layers in different colours you can come up with something visually very different. If you paint say the full interior like glass rather than just the visor it will look quite cool.
Looking at the power of the release codex and thinking back to Orks, the following timeline seems possible for Votann:
Week 1 - Limited edition codex released.
Week 2~5 - 3D printed Hekatrukk Dwarfbuggies rampage across the tournament scene..
Week 6 - Normal codex and second/third model wave releases.
Week 8 - Nerfs to Votann.
It is fine if you plan to build and paint for the next 6~9 months or so, but I remember a few Ork players being a little miffed at this. Also remember a Tyranid player being upset that just as they got their codex (a little later than most for some reason) half the army special rules in the codex got re-written.
Also it seems I misunderstood the grudge tokens. 1 or 2 let's you reroll hit rolls of 1 and 3 let's you reroll all hit rolls.
Just for clarification, a Grudge Token also counts as a judgement token. So 3 Grudge Token on a Unit mean:
You reroll all misses and you auto wound (6) on a 4+ to hit.
I guess those videos of the Votann crushing their opponents are just a modern version of what they used to do in the WD battle reports, which is whenever a new army was released it would usually be played by Andy Chambers, who would beat Jervis Johnson with it and show off what a cool army it was.
A friend and I are getting back into 2nd edition - the new Votann releases line up really well with the old 2nd edition army list, and you can play a squad-level game with 25-30 minis and a couple of vehicles/walkers.
Pacific wrote: I guess those videos of the Votann crushing their opponents are just a modern version of what they used to do in the WD battle reports, which is whenever a new army was released it would usually be played by Andy Chambers, who would beat Jervis Johnson with it and show off what a cool army it was.
Lol, the only exception to that back in 3rd/4th edition that I remember bucking the trend (back when I had a WD subscription) was the perennial Imperial punching bag of the Imperial Guard. I felt quite deflated after reading it as a new IG player.
Pacific wrote: I guess those videos of the Votann crushing their opponents are just a modern version of what they used to do in the WD battle reports, which is whenever a new army was released it would usually be played by Andy Chambers, who would beat Jervis Johnson with it and show off what a cool army it was.
Lol, the only exception to that back in 3rd/4th edition that I remember bucking the trend (back when I had a WD subscription) was the perennial Imperial punching bag of the Imperial Guard. I felt quite deflated after reading it as a new IG player.
Dark Eldar, Eldar, Necrons (sort of), Imperial Guard, Orks, Dark Angels all lost their inaugural 3rd ed. battle reports.
warboss wrote: Lol, the only exception to that back in 3rd/4th edition that I remember bucking the trend (back when I had a WD subscription) was the perennial Imperial punching bag of the Imperial Guard. I felt quite deflated after reading it as a new IG player.
Can't have them grunts showing up the shiny Space Marines
Pacific wrote: I guess those videos of the Votann crushing their opponents are just a modern version of what they used to do in the WD battle reports, which is whenever a new army was released it would usually be played by Andy Chambers, who would beat Jervis Johnson with it and show off what a cool army it was.
Lol, the only exception to that back in 3rd/4th edition that I remember bucking the trend (back when I had a WD subscription) was the perennial Imperial punching bag of the Imperial Guard. I felt quite deflated after reading it as a new IG player.
Dark Eldar, Eldar, Necrons (sort of), Imperial Guard, Orks, Dark Angels all lost their inaugural 3rd ed. battle reports.
'The new army always used to win' is a meme.
But was that losing a GW reaction to the perception that new armies always won inaugural reports?
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Hmm thats interesting, I've got a stack of old WDs I would say 130s onwards through to the 200s where new armies always seemed to win. Certainly through 2nd edition, although there must have been exceptions. I don't spend any time looking at memes though so my perception certainly isn't based on that.
Pacific wrote: I guess those videos of the Votann crushing their opponents are just a modern version of what they used to do in the WD battle reports, which is whenever a new army was released it would usually be played by Andy Chambers, who would beat Jervis Johnson with it and show off what a cool army it was.
A friend and I are getting back into 2nd edition - the new Votann releases line up really well with the old 2nd edition army list, and you can play a squad-level game with 25-30 minis and a couple of vehicles/walkers.
In 2000+ i actually counted new army winrate in first wd br. Wanna guess what it was from close to decade worth of wd's?
50%
To the dot.
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