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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 08:37:21
Subject: No more green stuff?
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Not as Good as a Minion
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Sorry, what you would call plumping epoxy (also called instant putty, repair epoxy, or epoxy putty here, had to Google plumbing epoxy first as this was unknown to me)
2 component epoxy that cures within minutes, and yes depending on how liquid it is, it is used as adhesive as well
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 09:52:14
Subject: No more green stuff?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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kodos wrote:Sorry, what you would call plumping epoxy (also called instant putty, repair epoxy, or epoxy putty here, had to Google plumbing epoxy first as this was unknown to me)
2 component epoxy that cures within minutes, and yes depending on how liquid it is, it is used as adhesive as well
Ah okay... there are certainly a ton of different varieties of plumbing, repair or structural epoxies, which one do you use specifically?
Some of the ones I've used I'd say are pretty unsuitable for sculpting or gap filling on miniatures, and many aren't any cheaper than greenstuff or milliput anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 10:09:07
Subject: No more green stuff?
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Not as Good as a Minion
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I use UHU or Pattex, which are local brands that make all kind of adhesive and modelling supplies (Pattex is also my go to plastic glue as it works with HIPS, ABS and PVC)
And usually if I make a stamp/negative with Oyumaru/BlueStuff were I don't have the time (or possibility) to hold it in place for hours rather than free sculpting
also for terrain as alternative to plaster (because it is lighter)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 11:02:44
Subject: No more green stuff?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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kodos wrote:I use UHU or Pattex, which are local brands that make all kind of adhesive and modelling supplies (Pattex is also my go to plastic glue as it works with HIPS, ABS and PVC)
And usually if I make a stamp/negative with Oyumaru/BlueStuff were I don't have the time (or possibility) to hold it in place for hours rather than free sculpting
also for terrain as alternative to plaster (because it is lighter)
Pattex and UHU are both very large global corporations. I couldn't find any Pattex epoxy putty, but for UHU do you mean this stuff?
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I'm just curious what other people use, because I've heard the "buy epoxy putty from your local hardware store" but in practice all the hardware store epoxies I've tried are god awful for sculpting and not a hell of a lot cheaper than milliput/kneadatite anyway, lol.
I have used a lot of epoxies over the past 15 years at work, a few structural pastes, a few repair putties, a whole bunch of adhesives and laminating resins, some coating epoxies... and I've yet to come across something I'd rather use for sculpting miniatures than milliput and greenstuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 11:23:08
Subject: Re:No more green stuff?
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Well Greenstuff was originally not for sculpting at all but car repair in hardware stores etc
Repurposed and repackaged now after many years ago the first and best sculptor discovered and tried sculpting in it...
"Tom Meier is a sculptor, a founding partner of Ral Partha Enterprises, and the winner of numerous awards for the design and sculpture of historical, fantasy and science fiction gaming miniatures.
Meier began sculpting professionally at the age of 15 and won his first H.G. Wells award just two years later. His earliest work was in the bulky style of Heritage Miniatures for whom he briefly worked. After the founding of Ral Partha in 1975, he was inspired by the art in fables and fairy tales and developed a style which emphasized beauty and natural proportion. A second lasting contribution was the popularization of sculpting in two-part ribbon epoxy putty designed for automotive repair. Commonly known as "green stuff," the epoxy held detail better than traditional media. Between 1977 and 1992 Tom's work won more than two dozen awards and he was inducted into the Origins Hall of Fame in 1991. In 1988, he left Ral Partha to start up his own company, Thunderbolt Mountain and does commission work for large and small game manufacturers.[1]"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 11:34:09
Subject: No more green stuff?
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Not as Good as a Minion
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 14:00:10
Subject: Re:No more green stuff?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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NAVARRO wrote:Well Greenstuff was originally not for sculpting at all but car repair in hardware stores etc
Repurposed and repackaged now after many years ago the first and best sculptor discovered and tried sculpting in it...
"Tom Meier is a sculptor, a founding partner of Ral Partha Enterprises, and the winner of numerous awards for the design and sculpture of historical, fantasy and science fiction gaming miniatures.
Meier began sculpting professionally at the age of 15 and won his first H.G. Wells award just two years later. His earliest work was in the bulky style of Heritage Miniatures for whom he briefly worked. After the founding of Ral Partha in 1975, he was inspired by the art in fables and fairy tales and developed a style which emphasized beauty and natural proportion. A second lasting contribution was the popularization of sculpting in two-part ribbon epoxy putty designed for automotive repair. Commonly known as "green stuff," the epoxy held detail better than traditional media. Between 1977 and 1992 Tom's work won more than two dozen awards and he was inducted into the Origins Hall of Fame in 1991. In 1988, he left Ral Partha to start up his own company, Thunderbolt Mountain and does commission work for large and small game manufacturers.[1]"
Interesting it was used in automotive, I wonder what for? Compared to many other epoxy resins, green stuff doesn't stick very well, so I wouldn't want to use it for repairs in the same way I would a structural or plumbing epoxy.
I had considered using something like greenstuff (probably not actually greenstuff) to repair some damage on my car in the fibreglass, it looks like someone dropped something heavy and sharp on the fibreglass and it's taken out a few layers but only very localised, but I worry how good it'll do exposed to weather.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 17:32:12
Subject: Re:No more green stuff?
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Using Object Source Lighting
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AllSeeingSkink wrote: NAVARRO wrote:Well Greenstuff was originally not for sculpting at all but car repair in hardware stores etc
Repurposed and repackaged now after many years ago the first and best sculptor discovered and tried sculpting in it...
"Tom Meier is a sculptor, a founding partner of Ral Partha Enterprises, and the winner of numerous awards for the design and sculpture of historical, fantasy and science fiction gaming miniatures.
Meier began sculpting professionally at the age of 15 and won his first H.G. Wells award just two years later. His earliest work was in the bulky style of Heritage Miniatures for whom he briefly worked. After the founding of Ral Partha in 1975, he was inspired by the art in fables and fairy tales and developed a style which emphasized beauty and natural proportion. A second lasting contribution was the popularization of sculpting in two-part ribbon epoxy putty designed for automotive repair. Commonly known as "green stuff," the epoxy held detail better than traditional media. Between 1977 and 1992 Tom's work won more than two dozen awards and he was inducted into the Origins Hall of Fame in 1991. In 1988, he left Ral Partha to start up his own company, Thunderbolt Mountain and does commission work for large and small game manufacturers.[1]"
Interesting it was used in automotive, I wonder what for? Compared to many other epoxy resins, green stuff doesn't stick very well, so I wouldn't want to use it for repairs in the same way I would a structural or plumbing epoxy.
I had considered using something like greenstuff (probably not actually greenstuff) to repair some damage on my car in the fibreglass, it looks like someone dropped something heavy and sharp on the fibreglass and it's taken out a few layers but only very localised, but I worry how good it'll do exposed to weather.
Dont really know much about car repairs but not many epoxies remain flexible once cured like GS does.
Well some of you talked about Brownstuff and even though it becomes more rigid than GS once cured it does break on the thin edges... thats the problem of rigidity on thin small parts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 18:07:25
Subject: No more green stuff?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: AduroT wrote:Personally I suggest Brown Stuff instead. It has less memory which lets you sculpt sharper edges, and sets up Much harder. It does offer less working time though, but still plenty imho.
They used to sell brown stuff at the 99c Only stores as “plumber’s putty” or something like that. Haven’t seen it there in years, though. It might still be available through similar stores.
I used to get the Privateer Press packaged stuff until they stopped carrying it. Now I get it thru Green Stuff World.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 19:40:14
Subject: No more green stuff?
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Stonecold Gimster
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AduroT wrote:I used to get the Privateer Press packaged stuff until they stopped carrying it. Now I get it thru Green Stuff World.
Not sure how much GSW charge but kneadatite is about £10 for 3 foot of the stuff on eBay last time I looked.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 19:54:13
Subject: No more green stuff?
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Gimgamgoo wrote: AduroT wrote:I used to get the Privateer Press packaged stuff until they stopped carrying it. Now I get it thru Green Stuff World.
Not sure how much GSW charge but kneadatite is about £10 for 3 foot of the stuff on eBay last time I looked.
Depends where you live... Before Brexit GSW was quite competitive but after it and also the shipping prices increases makes it less so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/04/17 21:42:49
Subject: No more green stuff?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Gimgamgoo wrote: AduroT wrote:I used to get the Privateer Press packaged stuff until they stopped carrying it. Now I get it thru Green Stuff World.
Not sure how much GSW charge but kneadatite is about £10 for 3 foot of the stuff on eBay last time I looked.
13€. No idea the conversion rates at the moment.
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