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Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Clare Balding? Look more like Miss Trunchbull.

 Ravajaxe wrote:
Out of curiosity, I have measured the base proportions (diameter / oblique height) from the picture on my screen, and compared it to those of a current 6 cm base (64mm real diameter, 4mm oblique height). It does not match, the new sentinel base seems bigger : I calculated about 80mm diameter. So maybe they decided to change the sentinel base to 80 as for primaris dreadnoughts !

God, I hope not. That would be patently absurd, and would make countless old ones invalid. Unfortunately, this just makes it more likely, because GW's got to GW.

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

I really like the Ursula Creed model. She looks very bit the no nonsense, tough as boot leather and can take the worst thrown at them and walk it off attitude that sums up the Guard and exactly the type of person you'd expect to lead the remains of Cadia.

Dislike the helm, but it'd look goofy on anyone in my opinion.

Ursula looks like a mix between Hermann Goring and a fisherman.

I have about 70 or 80 of the original kasrkin.

Love them. It gutted me when gw discontinued them.

I've literally waited about 20 years to see these guys I plastic. Can't wait to buy all of them.

Fantastic models. Gw hit this one straight Out of the throne-damned Park.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

Posture and jowly face make it look like an overweight character to me but maybe it's just clothing bulk. I've got no idea where this "badass" thing is coming from though.

Crossing fingers for women soldiers with new guards kits so I can add them spikes and make a whole Chaos Women Traitoris Guard army

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
*does double take*

Great googly moogly!

The scope is attached to a rail!

Not even Marines manage that.

GW has finally learned how attachments work.
Now they just need to learn how the firing mechanics work.


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 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Kasrkin wrote:
Not a fan of these new Kasrkin. Not a fan at all. They simply do not look correct.

Compared to the metal ones the shoulder pads and knee pads are less exaggerated, the helmet is a tough more rounded in places, and the rifle has a scope now.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

 Olthannon wrote:
Lady Creedence does not look like a bad ass. Ursula Creed does.

Ursula looks like Clare Balding with a powersword. She looks like she'd take a running start at kicking Abaddon so hard in the tadger for blowing up Cadia that his groin plate would shatter like the planet's crust.

Maybe Cawl will make her a Blackstone boot just for that purpose.

I'd love to see the stat line that allows that!

The best thing about the new creed model is the helmet version and even there i have questions.


the rest of it. i dunno.
Not just tactical rocks but outright tactical rubble pile, which just screams Sniper fodder.
The face is... it exists, lets leave it at that.
Thankfully you can replace the scepter with binoculars.

The kasrkin look awesome though.
Not so sure about the sentinel, it looks a bit too much like a amiriger, too rounded for guard.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So how long until we get the only daughter that matters - Slyanne Marbo?

We already got Sergeant Jackson.

Billicus wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

Posture and jowly face make it look like an overweight character to me but maybe it's just clothing bulk. I've got no idea where this "badass" thing is coming from though.

But cigar smoking Ursarkar Creed who was based on big fat bastard Winston Churchill, he was famously asthma free, right?

 Olthannon wrote:

Billicus wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

Posture and jowly face make it look like an overweight character to me but maybe it's just clothing bulk. I've got no idea where this "badass" thing is coming from though.

But cigar smoking Ursarkar Creed who was based on big fat bastard Winston Churchill, he was famously asthma free, right?

Creed didn't look like a front line combatant though, which is what you're claiming Ursula looks like.
If I recall correctly, the fluff stated that Creed would command from the back most of the time and only rarely took to the field. And even then most of the fighting was done by Kell, who did look like a fighter.

I like Ursula Creed, she looks like a powerfully built, seasoned officer- good to see a variety of female forms model wise. The Kasrkin seem like a really nice updated design, slimmer and sharp - the proportions look pretty good to me.
I'm guessing guard will be after squats as they say a few other armies have their time in the sun before the guard arrive so probably autumn?

I've already gotten to an argument whether the Kasrkin are on 32mm bases. Any of the local CSI image-sleuths care to wage in?

 Olthannon wrote:

Billicus wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

Posture and jowly face make it look like an overweight character to me but maybe it's just clothing bulk. I've got no idea where this "badass" thing is coming from though.

But cigar smoking Ursarkar Creed who was based on big fat bastard Winston Churchill, he was famously asthma free, right?

He looked like a grizzly grumpy tactician type, and he had a gnarly scar which suggested he'd at least been in a fight at some point. People are calling Trunchbull a "badass" and I'm saying I don't see it. She looks like a fairly passive aunt in a borrowed coat.

So as far as the whole "Creed's coat" thing, I'm surprised no one has brought up that Creed might have had multiple coats. Once a hole wore in the shoulder of the coat Ursula is wearing he would presumably retire it and get a new identical coat. That said, I kind of doubt GW would go with such a humdrum explanation (and rightly so, 40k is supposed to be a bit over the top at the very least)

Also, as someone who plays a custom guard regiment for fluff reasons, I really hope they don't start subfaction locking even more stuff (as in all the named factions get a kasrkin-like unit). I'd be open to them adding kasrkin as a non subfaction locked unit though. A sort of "today, we're all Cadian" show of unity thing, although that's not ideal either due to the whole super well trained because Cadia thing.

Billicus wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:

Billicus wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

Posture and jowly face make it look like an overweight character to me but maybe it's just clothing bulk. I've got no idea where this "badass" thing is coming from though.

But cigar smoking Ursarkar Creed who was based on big fat bastard Winston Churchill, he was famously asthma free, right?

He looked like a grizzly grumpy tactician type, and he had a gnarly scar which suggested he'd at least been in a fight at some point. People are calling Trunchbull a "badass" and I'm saying I don't see it. She looks like a fairly passive aunt in a borrowed coat.

Yeah Creed's fluff was that he started as a whiteshield and climbed his way up the ranks. He did plenty of fighting in his youth.

Well this preview has prompted me to get off the fence and finally order 3 of the current sentinels to make a squadron of armoured ones after about a decade of not getting round to it.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Kasrkin wrote:
Not a fan of these new Kasrkin. Not a fan at all. They simply do not look correct.

Compared to the metal ones the shoulder pads and knee pads are less exaggerated, the helmet is a tough more rounded in places, and the rifle has a scope now.

The straps on the kneepad are so bad on the new one, ruins an otherwise seemingly good model. The legs just look bloated and weird because of the smoothness.

I liked the old helmet better

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I've already gotten to an argument whether the Kasrkin are on 32mm bases. Any of the local CSI image-sleuths care to wage in?

Hard to tell, because the texturing was removed and the 25mm and 32mm bases have very similar width/height proportions.

I'll wager it's a sanded down 25mm, otherwise that Kasrkin would be roughly 8 feet tall.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

And you can be fat and in shape, or a martial artist.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I've already gotten to an argument whether the Kasrkin are on 32mm bases. Any of the local CSI image-sleuths care to wage in?

Definitely not 32mm, but the proportions don't look like 25mm either. It is most likely (the newish) 28,5mm base, meaning the models are noticeably taller than the older ones, but not primaris sized.

 Crimson wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I've already gotten to an argument whether the Kasrkin are on 32mm bases. Any of the local CSI image-sleuths care to wage in?

Definitely not 32mm, but the proportions don't look like 25mm either. It is most likely (the newish) 28,5mm base, meaning the models are noticeably taller than the older ones, but not primaris sized.

The comparison pic with the DkoK made the kasrkin's base look quite a bit bigger, just going by the rim height.

DKoK are on 25mm bases, but in the comparison pic the bases were scaled to same width, making the models appear to be of roughly similar size. But of course if Kaskrins are on 28,5mm bases, they'll be bigger.

Will need to see how the models are assembled. Greatcoat legs maybe?

pgmason wrote:
Well this preview has prompted me to get off the fence and finally order 3 of the current sentinels to make a squadron of armoured ones after about a decade of not getting round to it.

I'm the opposite. I like the old Sentinel just fine and don't need the round armor on the new one, but I am on the fence now because it looks like the new one's top extends further to the back and puts the center of gravity in a more comfortable spot. To my eyes, at least. Kind of hard to tell from the video. But it's enough to make me hesitate getting any old ones I may want,

 Albertorius wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

And you can be fat and in shape, or a martial artist.

Spoiler:

Or you could forego this whole in shape thing and find your martial prowess at the bottom of a bottle, which I think is what Uschi does.