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Hmm yeah that's pretty bad actually. I checked all my regular sellers for mk3 and most don't have them listed as a product they sell. I mostly disagree with the impatience that people are expressing here, but I can somehow understand being disappointed by this one thing in particular (I can still find them but only in a couple of places).

beast_gts wrote:
I posted that in response to MDG.

If it is £47.50, it's a fiver more than the Redemptor which has one(?) arm option.


Also, is four day reveal and pre-order announcement the quickest turn-around they've had?

My bad, then.

 Albertorius wrote:
My bad, then.

No worries - I should have quoted.


Rumour is the upgrade frame is £17.50 - so a bit more than a single FW one (£15.50).

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'd be happy with that price if it had all the weapons. With only 2 arms and 4 hands in the kit and the other sprue being probably 25€ standalone, it's a "think thrice" purchase for sure. Looks like Heresy affordability was only a launch day special.

I mean, that's not surprising.

Leviathan should be around £40 from a discounter, which is more palatable to me. Still not cheap, but better all the same.

They still need to get the Predator and Sicaran out on the shelf though. I’ve got an Ironwing to collect, build and paint. I’ve even accidentally found a local Heresy Group in Folkestone, via the Loot Group.

 Arbitrator wrote:

The Mark 3 and 4 kits you have to keep an eye on the webstore for. People are claiming the email notification is buggered? But I've looked and they do appear for a bit, then vanish, then appear again a few days later.

Yeah, the e-mail notifications are buggered as feth on both the main GW and FW sites. I've clicked the button and had items go back in stock that day with no e-mail.

I've taken to checking periodically through the day knowing that it's basically useless to use the notifications.

Speaking of which. Kratos is back on the U.K. store.

JWBS wrote:
Hmm yeah that's pretty bad actually. I checked all my regular sellers for mk3 and most don't have them listed as a product they sell. I mostly disagree with the impatience that people are expressing here, but I can somehow understand being disappointed by this one thing in particular (I can still find them but only in a couple of places).

Yea mk3/4 are web order so while flgs can order they pay nearly full retail themselves...so it's not exactly profitable business for them.

I'm just waiting for Lucius and the EC upgrades. Its annoying that they do reveals weeks or months before release. I'd rather they just kept reveals until they are available for purchase.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I'm just waiting for Lucius and the EC upgrades. Its annoying that they do reveals weeks or months before release. I'd rather they just kept reveals until they are available for purchase.

You came in during the Kirby era, eh?

No idea. I'd just rather not be shown something then have no idea when to expect it.

You are in minority here. Most are annoyed how little gw shows of future releases.

Gw is lose-lose. Preview stuff people complain, don't preview people complain.

And of course leaks make people who don't want previews angry anyway.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I know this is gonna sound alarmist, and out of character for me….

But GW really need to pull their finger out on Horus Heresy.

We’ve already been shown a Contemptor Kit, further heavy weapons, the Sicaran, Predator and Shooty Leviathan kit officially, and unofficially the Landraider Proteus dual kit.

These are of course highly desirable by new and established players both. So….where are they?

We are of course aware GW had issues surrounding their production capacity pre-plague years, and the status of their additions is ambiguous (lots of “I was told that” type stuff). But….seriously.

Get releasing already. I wants my shiny toys, and I don’t want Heresy to lose momentum. As someone who loathes resin, Ive waited a long time for plastics. And I dare say I’m far from alone in that.

Yeah, at this rate I’m looking forward to getting into Heresy in about 10 to 15 years when they start work on moving the other HH factions into plastic.

3d printer goes brrr

But I'd prefer plastics to hunting down files that can pass for official, and most have been DMCA'd before I even started.

tneva82 wrote:
You are in minority here. Most are annoyed how little gw shows of future releases.

Gw is lose-lose. Preview stuff people complain, don't preview people complain.

And of course leaks make people who don't want previews angry anyway.

Or they could just tell people when they plan to release them. You seem to be ignoring queen anne's second post and I kind of agree with the sentiment. I like seeing the models early, but I do find it kind of annoying that I have no idea when they're coming out and spoils the hype a bit when you see a model and think "oh cool!" then months later you haven't seen it again and don't know when you'll see it again or when you'll be able to get your hands on it.

 Arbitrator wrote:

Eiríkr wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Get releasing already. I wants my shiny toys, and I don’t want Heresy to lose momentum. As someone who loathes resin, Ive waited a long time for plastics. And I dare say I’m far from alone in that.

Pretty much lost interest in starting 30K already...
I really thought that this release / core product would be launching with almost everything available, or at least weekly / large monthly drops. I commented on this before, but who is going to be the unlucky sod whose legion of choice is the last to receive upgrade packs? It's going to be a long wait for sure! I've been signed up for email alerts on the Mark III and Mark IV restocks with the website, but haven't had a single peep about them appearing. My third party stockists of choice (Element Games and Goblin Games) have never seen these arrive, and show no sign of them being made available in the near future.

Everyone wants something shiny and new for their game system of choice, but Heresy is/was flagged as a new core line - the drip feeding of info, and even slower releases, is pretty poor IMO.

The Mark 3 and 4 kits you have to keep an eye on the webstore for. People are claiming the email notification is buggered? But I've looked and they do appear for a bit, then vanish, then appear again a few days later.

The big online discounters don't seem to be stocking them at all because of the margins. I've a couple of friends who ordered from Battleground Gaming and had theirs arrive a week ago after ordering around the big box preorder.

Hard to tell if it's a messed up email notification system or a rare example of GW IT actually working really well...... if there are fare more notification requests than copies of the item being notified about (and this very much seems the case), maybe they're only notifiying that small proportion of the want list thats at the top ? so as to avoid the really crappy 'it's back, but then you go to the site and it's not there' issue

wtf

Deimos showing as "No Longer Available Online" on the main GW site?!

What is this, GW IT guys are on holiday or what. Aint no way that kit is discontinued even before the Deimos variants are out!

Shoot not even very many mark 3s on ebay.

 tauist wrote:
wtf

Deimos showing as "No Longer Available Online" on the main GW site?!

What is this, GW IT guys are on holiday or what. Aint no way that kit is discontinued even before the Deimos variants are out!

It’s the Website. It often shows stuff as Gone Forever when it’s just Out of Stock.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 tauist wrote:
wtf

Deimos showing as "No Longer Available Online" on the main GW site?!

What is this, GW IT guys are on holiday or what. Aint no way that kit is discontinued even before the Deimos variants are out!

It’s the Website. It often shows stuff as Gone Forever when it’s just Out of Stock.


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If I go to the UK store, I get the same message, ie when I go to the product page it says "No Longer Available Online"

Weird. Hopefully it’s just a glitch.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I know this is gonna sound alarmist, and out of character for me….

But GW really need to pull their finger out on Horus Heresy.

We’ve already been shown a Contemptor Kit, further heavy weapons, the Sicaran, Predator and Shooty Leviathan kit officially, and unofficially the Landraider Proteus dual kit.

These are of course highly desirable by new and established players both. So….where are they?

We are of course aware GW had issues surrounding their production capacity pre-plague years, and the status of their additions is ambiguous (lots of “I was told that” type stuff). But….seriously.

Get releasing already. I wants my shiny toys, and I don’t want Heresy to lose momentum. As someone who loathes resin, Ive waited a long time for plastics. And I dare say I’m far from alone in that.

Given I still cannot buy Mozzarella at my local walmart and it's been almost 5 weeks, nor have I been able to get one of the returned Mexican Pizza's from Taco Bell because they're sold out nation wide, it might just have something to do with the current state of world affairs and likely isn't something they have any control over.

I want stuff too. I understand the hunger for models, I even feel like I can't work on all my MK6 because I still haven't been able to get the special weapons box just yet. But we're just going to have to be patient and wait. Sadly.



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 tauist wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 tauist wrote:
wtf

Deimos showing as "No Longer Available Online" on the main GW site?!

What is this, GW IT guys are on holiday or what. Aint no way that kit is discontinued even before the Deimos variants are out!

It’s the Website. It often shows stuff as Gone Forever when it’s just Out of Stock.


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If I go to the UK store, I get the same message, ie when I go to the product page it says "No Longer Available Online"

Just spoke with my LGS and they confirmed from their Rep that the deimos will be back in August, currently still sold out. I have an outstanding order for two of them!

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
You are in minority here. Most are annoyed how little gw shows of future releases.

Gw is lose-lose. Preview stuff people complain, don't preview people complain.

And of course leaks make people who don't want previews angry anyway.

Or they could just tell people when they plan to release them. You seem to be ignoring queen anne's second post and I kind of agree with the sentiment. I like seeing the models early, but I do find it kind of annoying that I have no idea when they're coming out and spoils the hype a bit when you see a model and think "oh cool!" then months later you haven't seen it again and don't know when you'll see it again or when you'll be able to get your hands on it.

Indeed. A week or maybe 2 weeks lead time seems reasonable enough to me. Theres no way a large company like gw isn't capable of that.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
You are in minority here. Most are annoyed how little gw shows of future releases.

Gw is lose-lose. Preview stuff people complain, don't preview people complain.

And of course leaks make people who don't want previews angry anyway.

Or they could just tell people when they plan to release them. You seem to be ignoring queen anne's second post and I kind of agree with the sentiment. I like seeing the models early, but I do find it kind of annoying that I have no idea when they're coming out and spoils the hype a bit when you see a model and think "oh cool!" then months later you haven't seen it again and don't know when you'll see it again or when you'll be able to get your hands on it.

Indeed. A week or maybe 2 weeks lead time seems reasonable enough to me. Theres no way a large company like gw isn't capable of that.

It's the dribs and drabs nature. Most scale model companies put out a list annually (typically at the start of the year but not always) advising on what they are planning to release that year. Usually dates of close things are reveled down to the month (say first quarter) then anything else which quarter it will be. They then usually update through the year with design updates as new models get closer (CAD images typically 6 months or so out, despite likely being complete for some time). This gives a good feel over spending over the year for the customer as well as meaning you can get hyped for a release at the right time. I understand that the same may not entirely work for GW but something more stable would at least let every one know where we stand (see a model in an rumor engine, its a year out, tease is 6 months, preview show is this quarter and so on).

I feel that these types of complaints are only common in this community (this site in particular) though I could be wrong. Thinking about it a bit more, I suppose GPU buyers or whatever have people that feel this way. I just don't, never really have from what I can remember and I'd guess my opinion on this is of the majority.

Any firm confirmation on the UK price for the Leviathan yet? I *could* extrapolate from the EU price but GW exchange rates are so random it seems a bit pointless.

£47.50 for the Leviathan

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Any firm confirmation on the UK price for the Leviathan yet? I *could* extrapolate from the EU price but GW exchange rates are so random it seems a bit pointless.

Go to gw site, very bottom games workshop submenu, retailerr(leads to , https://trade.games-workshop.com/), view all resources, from drop down guidance docs, order forms. Here you can find price lists. Sunday preorders next week announced, Monday price available.


And prices aren't random as such. If you find matching price it's same.

Exemplary Battle - The Battle of Trisolian: Vengeful Spirit -
SW Jorlund Hunter Pack & SoH Chieftain Squad.

So now in the Exemplary Battles series we have:

PDFs:
The Scouring of Gilden's Star (WB)
The Breaking of the Perfect Fortress (RG)
The Battle for Kalium Gate (EC/WS)
The Battle of Calth: Underworld War (UM)
The Battle of Perditus Umbral-51 (DA/DG)
The Battle of Armatura (WE)
The Siege of Hydra Cordatus: The Sundering of the Cadmean Citadel (IW)
The Defence of Sotha: Aegida’s Lamnet (NL)
The Battle of Pluto: Hydra’s Devastation (IF)
The Battle of Trisolian: Vengeful Spirit (SW/SoH)

Exemplary Battles Unit Update


Units:
UM Nemesis Destroyer Squad - Themed Destroyers
DG Mortus Poisoner Squad - Themed Destroyers
WE Red Hand Destroyer Assault Squad - Themed Destroyers
WS Dark Sons of Death Squad - Themed Destroyers
IW Dominator Cohort - Themed Terminators (Cataphractii)
IF Huscarl Squad - Themed Terminators (Cataphractii)
NL Atramentar Squad - Themed Terminators (Tartaros / Contekar?)
DA Inner Circle Knights Cenobium (Order of the Broken Claws) - New variant
EC Sun Killer Squad - Heavy Weapon / Support Squad
RG Deliverer Squad - Themed Terminators (Cataphractii)
WB Procurators - Themed Assault Squad
SW Jorlund Hunter Pack - Themed Despolier Squad (Hand Flamers)
SoH Chieftain Squad - Command Squad / Retinue

And are waiting for Blood Angels, Iron Hands, Thousand Sons, Salamanders & Alpha Legion -

Andy Hoare wrote:We’re getting towards the end of the Exemplary Battles series now, with only a handful of Legions remaining to cover – but I hope you’d agree the format has worked out well, so there’s no reason not to go back and do more articles in the future.

only 375 points for a command squad equivalent with power weapons. We get to re-roll 1s against Independent Characters and Primarchs, and cost 100 points more than the jump-pack equipped dawnbreaker cohort/locutarus storm squadron, or 140ish points more than a similarly equipped ACTUAL command squad. Wtf?

Oh, right, banestrike bolters!

I'm getting the feeling that GW is overpriced power weapons on Sons of Horus because they want Sons of Horus to be good at killing unarmored things (so comparatively cheap chainswords, chainaxes but abhorrently expensive power weapons and better on our unique weapons).
Not a useful niche to be in the Horus Heresy.