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BigOscar wrote:
Interested to see if they release a new Sanguinius model when they release his book, or bring back his diorama base. The current model is just bad, the diorama helps a lot, but it's still not good. With the new Horus, is it too optimistic to hope for a nice beaten up Siege of Terra version of Sanguinius, preferablywithout a terriblehead and a rock ip his arse?

You'll get a dead Sanguinius face-down on some stairs and you'll like it!

Pretty sure he was face up in every relevant artwork.

But face-down is funnier.

BigOscar wrote:
Interested to see if they release a new Sanguinius model when they release his book, or bring back his diorama base. The current model is just bad, the diorama helps a lot, but it's still not good. With the new Horus, is it too optimistic to hope for a nice beaten up Siege of Terra version of Sanguinius, preferablywithout a terriblehead and a rock ip his arse?

Do you have the model or is this opinion based on photos only? Because the model with the diorama base is amazing.

Hypothetically, what if we get black rage Sanginius?

Like let's say the tinfoil theorists are right and that the twist in the Seige of Terra is Sanginius goes ape, kills Horus, and then the Emperor has to put him down?

And that version of Sang is who we get from FW

Are Lucius and the other Emperor's Children Praetors and upgrades being up for pre order new for today?

They’re on the Forge World uk site now so… probably?

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

BigOscar wrote:
Interested to see if they release a new Sanguinius model when they release his book, or bring back his diorama base. The current model is just bad, the diorama helps a lot, but it's still not good. With the new Horus, is it too optimistic to hope for a nice beaten up Siege of Terra version of Sanguinius, preferablywithout a terriblehead and a rock ip his arse?

Do you have the model or is this opinion based on photos only? Because the model with the diorama base is amazing.

I've seen the model without the diorama in person and it's not good at all. The diorama makes it make sense, but without it, that's £95 worth of skinny dude with creepy face with a rock up his arse

The non autocannon predator turrets:

Is there any word on this assassin?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/01/heresy-thursday-assassinate-enemy-infiltrators-with-their-own-weapons/

It's Forgeworld, so it might be next week or November 2023.

Rules are probably going to be in Liber Imperium so I wouldn't expect her until that's out.

 Arbitrator wrote:
Rules are probably going to be in Liber Imperium so I wouldn't expect her until that's out.

Since they said rules for Assassins would be in that book that's exactly where I'd expect her rules to be.

The predator weapon sprue is blatantly designed for a second sprue to come along with at least 4 of the missing 5 options- melta, plasma, flamestorm, conversion, and neutron. Probably the neutron laser as the odd one out.

I got my hands on the Predator kit early and while it might be obvious when you look at the sprues on games-workshop.com, I can confirm that the kit only builds a Predator (and not a Rhino, too, like the 40k version).

https://twitter.com/stahly_top/status/1568525728815190021

The kit trades one of the Rhino hull sprues for a new sprue with a modified top plate and side section for the sponsons, plus you get a new turret weapon sprue and the sponsons sprue you know from the Kratos and Sicaran.

Yeah, it's actually insane that GW made the new 30k Predator and Rhino cheaper than the olden ones. Land Raider is probably the odd one out.

 stahly wrote:
But wow, the kit is cheaper than the super dated 40k Predator (at least in Euro).

Not in the UK - they're both £40 here.

beast_gts wrote:

 stahly wrote:
But wow, the kit is cheaper than the super dated 40k Predator (at least in Euro).

Not in the UK - they're both £40 here.

Oh yeah, you're right. Fixed.

WarCom have updated the Liber Imperium article:

* An administrative error caused by a shadowy figure hacking the mainframe at Warhammer Community Towers caused this previously to read “eight”. There have obviously only ever been seven Clades, and any scintilla of a suggestion to the contrary is heresy in the most extreme.

It'd be nice if they could errata the books as quickly as they do their articles.

Just saw the price of the new Predator in Australia, hahaha, $110AUD, yeah, F-you GW, not a chance in hell I'll be paying that (for those not familiar with dollarydoos, the old predator over here is $83AUD, the old Rhino/Razorback is $55AUD, the Deimos Rhino is $78AUD).

So a 1/3rd price increase over the old Predator.

Yeah it's nice. But it's not $110 nice when you don't even get all the weapon options. I hate that this is now how they present kits. Here's a tank. Here's half it's weapons. Come back in 6 months where you can buy the other half for another 3rd of the cost.
gaks.

The Mechanicum book is finally up for preorder here in the US.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/liber-mechanicum-forces-of-the-omnissiah-2022-hb-eng

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
The Mechanicum book is finally up for preorder here in the US.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/liber-mechanicum-forces-of-the-omnissiah-2022-hb-eng

As predicted, zero mention of it by GW themselves lol.

Hell, it's not even listed as a preorder! It's just there under New Releases.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
The Mechanicum book is finally up for preorder here in the US.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/liber-mechanicum-forces-of-the-omnissiah-2022-hb-eng

As predicted, zero mention of it by GW themselves lol.

Hell, it's not even listed as a preorder! It's just there under New Releases.

At least that hopefully means people don't need to wait an extra week for the pre-order instead of just having it shipped to them right away.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
The Mechanicum book is finally up for preorder here in the US.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/liber-mechanicum-forces-of-the-omnissiah-2022-hb-eng

As predicted, zero mention of it by GW themselves lol.

Hell, it's not even listed as a preorder! It's just there under New Releases.

At least that hopefully means people don't need to wait an extra week for the pre-order instead of just having it shipped to them right away.

Doesn't ship until the 17th. What's worse, is that early Saturday (maybe even Friday, can't remember when I saw it), before US preorders were up, it did show on the Horus Heresy landing page, but if you clicked on the "Buy Now" button, it took you to a blank page.

The Mechanicum book is a step down from the old FW red book. lots of reused artwork, the fluff blurbs are not that well done.

The ordo reductor is gone, the taking of any FW super heavy units is gone, some of the knights are missing, you cant make a all knight army without paying a armiger tax, one of the ordinatus are missing ( volcano cannon), termites are gone, the only dedicated transport is triaros armoured conveyor, no flyers at all... secutarii hoplites/peltasts can only be taken in a titan list and can only have a Triaros as dedicated transport.

Im not happy or impressed with this book at all. They have gutted the Mechanicum imho. the only thing they didn't do that I expected them to do was put the admech models into the army list.

I really hope this is a get you by book until they either release some more models, release a dark mechanicum book or just forget about them and let the mechanicum sail off into the sunset by dint of never updating them. It would be nice if FW would bring back the only generic HQ model the mechanicum had back into production. But that would be silly right?

So I'm just getting into the game and the more I dig into the Night Lords the more something isn't quite lining up with them. It's like an engine with a single cylinder that misfires and makes the whole thing knock. Don't get me wrong, I don't think they're bad, but it just feels like they overpay for their special rules a bit to the point that taking Curze and a Terror Assault feels pretty much an automatic combo to turn the legion all the way on without spending hundreds of points on it's rules.

I originally went into specifics but honestly it felt a bit too much like complaining my sandwich was cut the wrong direction. Like it's still a good sandwhich, but it's just lacking that polish that makes it a great sandwhich.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
So I'm just getting into the game and the more I dig into the Night Lords the more something isn't quite lining up with them. It's like an engine with a single cylinder that misfires and makes the whole thing knock. Don't get me wrong, I don't think they're bad, but it just feels like they overpay for their special rules a bit to the point that taking Curze and a Terror Assault feels pretty much an automatic combo to turn the legion all the way on without spending hundreds of points on it's rules.

I originally went into specifics but honestly it felt a bit too much like complaining my sandwich was cut the wrong direction. Like it's still a good sandwhich, but it's just lacking that polish that makes it a great sandwhich.

That's 2.0 in general for me. It's moreso a side-grade from 1.0, rather than a replacement. Some changes I like, some things I dislike, and many things have simply flipped positions. World Eaters for example, it used to be Red butchers were good and Rampagers were meh at best, now it's the other way around, Rampagers are incredibly good, but Red Butchers are at best a niche choice.

 FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:
I really hope this is a get you by book until they either release some more models, release a dark mechanicum book or just forget about them and let the mechanicum sail off into the sunset by dint of never updating them.

A $50 get you by book? Sounds like something GW would do