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 Lord Damocles wrote:
The assassin looks a bit portly.

Indeed. Reminds me of the portly musketeer.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
... jew assassins ...

That feels like something I'd expect to see in a Mel Brooks movie.

Oops, bad typo! Mel Brooks? For some reason I can also imagine them in a Mel Gibson movie! (Too soon?)

Mel Brooks would make it fun and funny. Mel Gibson would make it sad and anti-semitic.

Of course, that was the point I was trying to make. You are totally right of course! Such a Mel Gibson movie would indeed be a sad affair.

I like the wwii/steampunk look he's got going on.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:he

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 The Power Cosmic wrote:
he

Yeah, he. Pretty sure that's a stout guy with pecs/manboobs, what of it.

So, given the large number of plastic releases that we've already had, what are the odds that we see more power armour variants before next summer? I don't suppose anyone's been keeping a running tally of the sprue count for HH releases?

 crumby_cataphract wrote:
So, given the large number of plastic releases that we've already had, what are the odds that we see more power armour variants before next summer? I don't suppose anyone's been keeping a running tally of the sprue count for HH releases?

MkVI kits? Sure. Anything else? No.

If the yearly boxed-set rumor is to be believed I'd assume a new armor mark would be saved for something like that. MK IV, MK III and MK VI all were introduced with a horus heresy boxed set so I don't see why they'd buck that trend.

Yeah, that makes sense. I suppose there's no incentive to release the MKII outside of a boxed set to draw in players who don't already have a bunch of MKVIs.

I just hope that when they do release the MKIIs, they look like the gunner in the Spartan kit.

 crumby_cataphract wrote:
Yeah, that makes sense. I suppose there's no incentive to release the MKII outside of a boxed set to draw in players who don't already have a bunch of MKVIs.

I just hope that when they do release the MKIIs, they look like the gunner in the Spartan kit.

Ditto, while I prefer mkiii, mkii is the go-to for early crusade!

 ClockworkZion wrote:

axotl wrote:
And most resin is garbage and overpriced

Okay, that's a nice opinion, but that doesn't change the fact that this game is largely built on resin character models, upgrade kits, and sets we don't have in plastic.

You're right, but that's also why people are eagerly watching this thread and the releases. People want good, generic stuff to come out in plastic - melee marines, vehicles, ect - so they can make armies without dumping 10$ / head on poorly cast munchkins.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
I can understand complaints about the cost but can't get on board with comments about the quality of Forge World resins, especially more recent ones. The material they're using now is pretty durable and obviously detailed.

The issue isn't the durability of the material, but their quality control in general. Every single model I ever buy from FW has some amount of mold slippage on it. I can usually fix it with some filing and green stuff, but that's something I've almost never had to do with resin models from other companies.

And don't get me started on how inconveniently placed and oversized some of the resin sprue attachments are.

When did you last buy one? I haven't had any major issues with fw resin for a good few years.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
I can understand complaints about the cost but can't get on board with comments about the quality of Forge World resins, especially more recent ones. The material they're using now is pretty durable and obviously detailed.

The issue isn't the durability of the material, but their quality control in general. Every single model I ever buy from FW has some amount of mold slippage on it. I can usually fix it with some filing and green stuff, but that's something I've almost never had to do with resin models from other companies.

And don't get me started on how inconveniently placed and oversized some of the resin sprue attachments are.

When did you last buy one? I haven't had any major issues with fw resin for a good few years.

Same. They used to be a tad brittle but they've seemingly changed the 'recipe' in the past couple of years and use a firmer, visibly darker resin that doesn't tend to slip and that's been nothing but exceptional in my experience.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Yeah, he. Pretty sure that's a stout guy with pecs/manboobs, what of it.

He looks like a couch potato from real life but is running around in a setting where everything is larger than life. He doesn´t fit because he isn´t fit. A disgrace for the Imperial war machine.

 Strg Alt wrote:
He looks like a couch potato from real life but is running around in a setting where everything is larger than life. He doesn´t fit because he isn´t fit. A disgrace for the Imperial war machine.

Bloke spikes peoples drinks for a living. Don't think he needs to be Buff McHuge-large.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
I can understand complaints about the cost but can't get on board with comments about the quality of Forge World resins, especially more recent ones. The material they're using now is pretty durable and obviously detailed.

The issue isn't the durability of the material, but their quality control in general. Every single model I ever buy from FW has some amount of mold slippage on it. I can usually fix it with some filing and green stuff, but that's something I've almost never had to do with resin models from other companies.

And don't get me started on how inconveniently placed and oversized some of the resin sprue attachments are.

When did you last buy one? I haven't had any major issues with fw resin for a good few years.

This year. Several hundreds of dollars worth of various models. Including the newly designed Astraeus among other things like Guilliman, UM contemptor, volkite chargers, etc. Ventanus's banner had a weird shine and felt slightly tacky to the touch, even after thorough cleaning, but it still took primer. And still far too much mold slippage across many of the models and parts. Far more than I've gotten from every other resin model purchased from every other company ever, combined. It was all still fixable, but at FW's prices and claimed quality, no such fixing should be needed, especially in comparison to other companies like Kromlech.

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Oooh, time to open my chakras and get me some positive energy crystals

Only the Thousand Sons would make maths wizards a combat unit.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
I can understand complaints about the cost but can't get on board with comments about the quality of Forge World resins, especially more recent ones. The material they're using now is pretty durable and obviously detailed.

The issue isn't the durability of the material, but their quality control in general. Every single model I ever buy from FW has some amount of mold slippage on it. I can usually fix it with some filing and green stuff, but that's something I've almost never had to do with resin models from other companies.

And don't get me started on how inconveniently placed and oversized some of the resin sprue attachments are.

When did you last buy one? I haven't had any major issues with fw resin for a good few years.

This year. Several hundreds of dollars worth of various models. Including the newly designed Astraeus among other things like Guilliman, UM contemptor, volkite chargers, etc. Ventanus's banner had a weird shine and felt slightly tacky to the touch, even after thorough cleaning, but it still took primer. And still far too much mold slippage across many of the models and parts. Far more than I've gotten from every other resin model purchased from every other company ever, combined. It was all still fixable, but at FW's prices and claimed quality, no such fixing should be needed, especially in comparison to other companies like Kromlech.

Over the last 20 years or so I must have bought well over 100 models from Forge World, only one had mold slippage.

I've definitely noticed that a large number of Dakka users from the USA seem to complain about FW quality control, the difference in experience to my own seems so large that I can't help but wonder if there is a different casting facility being used for product that ends up in the USA? I really find it hard to understand how other people's experience differs so much from my own.

Agreed 100% about the occasional difficulties with mold release that can't be removed though, I know how to fix the problem but it really shouldn't be an issue in the first place.

EDIT: I gave it some more thought, "over 100 models" was way, way less than the actual figure. I have a problem.

 morganfreeman wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

axotl wrote:
And most resin is garbage and overpriced

Okay, that's a nice opinion, but that doesn't change the fact that this game is largely built on resin character models, upgrade kits, and sets we don't have in plastic.

You're right, but that's also why people are eagerly watching this thread and the releases. People want good, generic stuff to come out in plastic - melee marines, vehicles, ect - so they can make armies without dumping 10$ / head on poorly cast munchkins.

People need to remember characters and one off models like the Assassins are more than likely to remain resin over become plastic though. As much as I prefer plastic, it's good to have a sense of perspective about these things and not let the hype overrule sense.


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beast_gts wrote:
Unleash the Unlimited Power of Numerology With a Free Download for Warhammer: The Horus Heresy

Exemplary Battle - The Axandrix IV Incident; Rules for Thousand Sons Numerologist Cabal.

PDF Link

Best part is the quote from the article:

In our last Exemplary Battles article, the owners of the finest helmets in the galaxy, the Space Wolves, launched a daring raid on The Vengeful Spirit. This month, it’s time for their arch-rivals the Thousand Sons to take their moment in the spotligh

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
I can understand complaints about the cost but can't get on board with comments about the quality of Forge World resins, especially more recent ones. The material they're using now is pretty durable and obviously detailed.

The issue isn't the durability of the material, but their quality control in general. Every single model I ever buy from FW has some amount of mold slippage on it. I can usually fix it with some filing and green stuff, but that's something I've almost never had to do with resin models from other companies.

And don't get me started on how inconveniently placed and oversized some of the resin sprue attachments are.

When did you last buy one? I haven't had any major issues with fw resin for a good few years.

This year. Several hundreds of dollars worth of various models. Including the newly designed Astraeus among other things like Guilliman, UM contemptor, volkite chargers, etc. Ventanus's banner had a weird shine and felt slightly tacky to the touch, even after thorough cleaning, but it still took primer. And still far too much mold slippage across many of the models and parts. Far more than I've gotten from every other resin model purchased from every other company ever, combined. It was all still fixable, but at FW's prices and claimed quality, no such fixing should be needed, especially in comparison to other companies like Kromlech.

Over the last 20 years or so I must have bought well over 100 models from Forge World, only one had mold slippage.

I've definitely noticed that a large number of Dakka users from the USA seem to complain about FW quality control, the difference in experience to my own seems so large that I can't help but wonder if there is a different casting facility being used for product that ends up in the USA? I really find it hard to understand how other people's experience differs so much from my own.

Agreed 100% about the occasional difficulties with mold release that can't be removed though, I know how to fix the problem but it really shouldn't be an issue in the first place.

EDIT: I gave it some more thought, "over 100 models" was way, way less than the actual figure. I have a problem.

A lot of people in Germany also complain about rotten resin from Forge World.


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 Snrub wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:
He looks like a couch potato from real life but is running around in a setting where everything is larger than life. He doesn´t fit because he isn´t fit. A disgrace for the Imperial war machine.

Bloke spikes peoples drinks for a living. Don't think he needs to be Buff McHuge-large.

Bloke is an Imperial Assassin. These guys are even tougher than SM and being out of shape is a no-go. Verdict stands: Model is a complete failure. Looks like a schlub doing a cosplay of an Assassin.

ITT: people thinking real muscles look anything like show muscles

Seems forge world fob off the lower quality overseas then...

I've had not-good resin from FW with some minor mould slippage and bubbles. Nothing crazy bad, but I've also not had any that screams "high quality" either...

Remember when Duncan bloody Rhodes' Horus painting guide had bubbles in his Horus lmao

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
I can understand complaints about the cost but can't get on board with comments about the quality of Forge World resins, especially more recent ones. The material they're using now is pretty durable and obviously detailed.

The issue isn't the durability of the material, but their quality control in general. Every single model I ever buy from FW has some amount of mold slippage on it. I can usually fix it with some filing and green stuff, but that's something I've almost never had to do with resin models from other companies.

And don't get me started on how inconveniently placed and oversized some of the resin sprue attachments are.

When did you last buy one? I haven't had any major issues with fw resin for a good few years.

Same. They used to be a tad brittle but they've seemingly changed the 'recipe' in the past couple of years and use a firmer, visibly darker resin that doesn't tend to slip and that's been nothing but exceptional in my experience.

No offense but then you likely aren't the type to really check every mold line. Of the probably 2k$ I've spent FW in the last year or two, only the smallest handful of models did not warrant a replacement for mold slip on at least 1 core part.

I think some people see a model as a game piece and are not particularly discerning on quality. Or don't have the attention to detail? I don't know. Sort of reminds me of the 60 fps debate. There's a pretty clear issue with quality control with forge world models. Check my post history I document many replacements in an album.

axotl wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
I can understand complaints about the cost but can't get on board with comments about the quality of Forge World resins, especially more recent ones. The material they're using now is pretty durable and obviously detailed.

The issue isn't the durability of the material, but their quality control in general. Every single model I ever buy from FW has some amount of mold slippage on it. I can usually fix it with some filing and green stuff, but that's something I've almost never had to do with resin models from other companies.

And don't get me started on how inconveniently placed and oversized some of the resin sprue attachments are.

When did you last buy one? I haven't had any major issues with fw resin for a good few years.

Same. They used to be a tad brittle but they've seemingly changed the 'recipe' in the past couple of years and use a firmer, visibly darker resin that doesn't tend to slip and that's been nothing but exceptional in my experience.

No offense but then you likely aren't the type to really check every mold line. Of the probably 2k$ I've spent FW in the last year or two, only the smallest handful of models did not warrant a replacement for mold slip on at least 1 core part.

I think some people see a model as a game piece and are not particularly discerning on quality. Or don't have the attention to detail? I don't know. Sort of reminds me of the 60 fps debate. There's a pretty clear issue with quality control with forge world models. Check my post history I document many replacements in an album.

It reminds me of the finecast debacle, obviously finecast was much much worse, but there were still people who insisted it was fine and they couldn't see any bubbles or flaws in their models, meanwhile I didn't see a single finecast model without a flaw, the question was simply how egregious it was.

FW stuff has a bad reputation for mould slippage, there's only a few models that I thought were bad enough to get a replacement but several where I was shaving off more of the model than I felt was warranted for such an expensive model.

And I'm in Oz, we get our FW from Nottingham.

Why are we talking about FW quality as if GW plastic kits don't have mold lines everywhere, bent parts, mold slip, etc? I'd love it if FW quality control was better but let's not pretend that GW kits don't take a similar amount of time to clean up if you care about having a nice looking model.

Must admit that yesterday I received the new Emperor's Children Praetor, head and shoulder pad upgrades from Forge World yesterday and they were the crispest casts I have ever gotten from Forge World.

Obviously the provisos here are that they are brand new and expensive so the should be exceptional quality, I am also UK based. But was very happy with them. The older EC Contemptor was nowhere near as good but was bubble and mould slip free.