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 Kanluwen wrote:
Figures. Raven Guard can't have anything nice for themselves, everyone else gets it.

Raven Guard cant even get their shroud saves vs some Armies.


Im liking that Exodus, pretty nice model.

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
I like the detail of that switch on the rifle (right by his finger) for the 3 different modes for "the instrument".
Although, it would have been nice if he could turn it all the way up to 11.

It has 3 profiles?

I suppose you could consider the Deadly Aim rule the third.

Oh, yes please, he'll be joining my Alpha's. Perfect sniper assassin and he could even pick on the lighter vehicles

Quasistellar wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
I like the detail of that switch on the rifle (right by his finger) for the 3 different modes for "the instrument".
Although, it would have been nice if he could turn it all the way up to 11.

It has 3 profiles?

I suppose you could consider the Deadly Aim rule the third.

The third is when he leaves his safety on (rolls a 1).

Quasistellar wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
I like the detail of that switch on the rifle (right by his finger) for the 3 different modes for "the instrument".
Although, it would have been nice if he could turn it all the way up to 11.

It has 3 profiles?

I suppose you could consider the Deadly Aim rule the third.

Thats how I read the rule. He turn it up to Brutal and must stay put for the whole turn just bracing for the recoil.

41 Euro?! This is insane.

Great model. It also shows that they created the assets for a rescaled MkIV armour (different proportions than the plastic MkIV models, also subtle differences on the backpack.

He's very nice, will definitely find a place for him in my AL

Very cool. I have some friends that want to use that model in place of a Vindicator Assassin, and I figure that'd be pretty sweet thematically.

Comparing his stats to a Raven Guard Vigilator is a bit interesting. Obviously his gun is a lot more dangerous simply because it's a higher strength, but don't count a Vigilator with Infravisor and Cameleoline cloak out either. Just like the Exodus, it can get Scout AND Infiltrate, and has a huge slew of special rules that it gets from Raven Guard and the Nemesis Bolter that make it very scary for character models and sgts.

I could sit here and be salty about Raven Guard not getting x or y, but eventually we'll get our time in the sun.

drbored wrote:


I could sit here and be salty about Raven Guard not getting x or y, but eventually we'll get our time in the sun.

Good luck. That's what I said about my World Eaters 20 years ago. Still waiting.

The World Eaters that got the first Primarch, Kharn, Rampagers and Red Butchers? Or do you mean 40k?

 Gert wrote:
The World Eaters that got the first Primarch, Kharn, Rampagers and Red Butchers? Or do you mean 40k?

He probably means rules wise. WE unique units / weapons / rules were fairly meh in 1.0. Also Angron spent 1.0 as the weakest primarch by a wide margin.

In 2.0 Angron is…. Better than he used to be. Rampagers and the legion trait are OK. But the legion upgrade is awful to the point of unusable, Red Butchers are steaming piles of garbage, the caedre weapons are inferior to standard power weapons, and the unique reaction is a blatantly inferior version of several other legions.

 Snrub wrote:

 tauist wrote:
I like the camo cloak

Me too. It's nice and subtle.

Indeed, the camouflage is quite good. I can barely make out the shiny metal man underneath.

Nice model, though.

 morganfreeman wrote:

 Gert wrote:
The World Eaters that got the first Primarch, Kharn, Rampagers and Red Butchers? Or do you mean 40k?

He probably means rules wise. WE unique units / weapons / rules were fairly meh in 1.0. Also Angron spent 1.0 as the weakest primarch by a wide margin.

In 2.0 Angron is…. Better than he used to be. Rampagers and the legion trait are OK. But the legion upgrade is awful to the point of unusable, Red Butchers are steaming piles of garbage, the caedre weapons are inferior to standard power weapons, and the unique reaction is a blatantly inferior version of several other legions.

Haven't caedre weapons always been crap?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Sorry Snrub, should have specified "plastic".

Oh well. Good for Alpha Legion. Maybe Raven Guard will get their unique Moritat.

Well you get this in resin instead.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Cracking sculpt, hope that the saviours of mankind/sneaky heretic legion are happy with him.

Assuming that Horus Ascended goes on pre order via Forge World tomorrow, do they have a usual GMT release time like the Saturday Games Workshop releases?

I suspect Horus will be a Saturday release, as he's going to be available from the main GW site as well.

Tavis75 wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Cracking sculpt, hope that the saviours of mankind/sneaky heretic legion are happy with him.

Assuming that Horus Ascended goes on pre order via Forge World tomorrow, do they have a usual GMT release time like the Saturday Games Workshop releases?

I suspect Horus will be a Saturday release, as he's going to be available from the main GW site as well.

Certainly looks like it, no sign of him on either site at the moment. I guess one more day is not too long to find out the price.

 morganfreeman wrote:

 Gert wrote:
The World Eaters that got the first Primarch, Kharn, Rampagers and Red Butchers? Or do you mean 40k?

He probably means rules wise. WE unique units / weapons / rules were fairly meh in 1.0. Also Angron spent 1.0 as the weakest primarch by a wide margin.

In 2.0 Angron is…. Better than he used to be. Rampagers and the legion trait are OK. But the legion upgrade is awful to the point of unusable, Red Butchers are steaming piles of garbage, the caedre weapons are inferior to standard power weapons, and the unique reaction is a blatantly inferior version of several other legions.

I mean, it's not totally awful. Rampagers with the Falax blades will delete basically anything they come across that isn't big blobs of Termies. Rending(4+) is handy like that, and I do think Meteor Hammers have their place, one or two in a squad, but the other two are meh or sidegrades at best. I don't think yhe profiles for the Lash and Chainaxe are that bad, but they're 15pts and are pretty niche, especially for the points. Lash wouldn't be too bad against daemons or Militia thanks to fleshbane, but AP5 hurts it against anything else, and the Axe is just mediocre and you're only taking them if you bought the Rampager kit and don't feel like buying more to get more falx blades. The Beserker upgrade just gives the Character a lobotomy figuratively and literally and gives them the sole benefit of being knock-off bitter duty.

I mean i'd love to run him as a vigilator or saboteur....

The problem is the price range will enter the area i call personally absurd.

That gun is perfect for the omegon conversion I want to do. Hope it still works on a slightly upscaled fig.

 blood reaper wrote:

 morganfreeman wrote:

 Gert wrote:
The World Eaters that got the first Primarch, Kharn, Rampagers and Red Butchers? Or do you mean 40k?

He probably means rules wise. WE unique units / weapons / rules were fairly meh in 1.0. Also Angron spent 1.0 as the weakest primarch by a wide margin.

In 2.0 Angron is…. Better than he used to be. Rampagers and the legion trait are OK. But the legion upgrade is awful to the point of unusable, Red Butchers are steaming piles of garbage, the caedre weapons are inferior to standard power weapons, and the unique reaction is a blatantly inferior version of several other legions.

Haven't caedre weapons always been crap?

Yes, but that's part of the point. WE haven't had a moment in the sun... ever, with the arguable exception being that they got the first (and weakest) primarch.

Not to bitch and moan, but just pointing out what the response meant in relation to "Raven Guard will get their time in the sun".

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

I mean, it's not totally awful. Rampagers with the Falax blades will delete basically anything they come across that isn't big blobs of Termies.

Rampagers are fantastic at brutalizing tactical squads. But when you take the time to line them up with other legion elites, they're a suicide-bomb (at best) when they get the charge... and a modest speed bump when they get charged. All while being within 2-3 PPM of those squads they compete with from other legions. That's awful.

WE don't struggle with bullying tactical squads. That's the primary function of their free chain axe trait, so it's pretty silly that their "elite" goons are tailored to fulfill the exact same niche and a prohibitive price point.

Horus Ascended rocks in at an impressive 42 parts and $213 Aus dollars, so should break the £100 barrier (never sure because of the GW shenanigans when converting prices into Australian money).

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Horus Ascended rocks in at an impressive 42 parts and $213 Aus dollars, so should break the £100 barrier (never sure because of the GW shenanigans when converting prices into Australian money).

He's £92.50. I thought that got reported a few days ago.

Completely missed it amongst all the Necron chatter.

So in Aus Sanguinius = $205 or £98.

Horus Ascended = $213 or £92.50...

I'll take it.

Plus apologies I said 42 parts, it is 41.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Completely missed it amongst all the Necron chatter.

So in Aus Sanguinius = $205 or £98.

Horus Ascended = $213 or £92.50...

I'll take it.

By the time they'd get around to it, Horus, Sanguinius, Big E, the assorted bystanders and the scenic base for the classic scene on the Vengeful Spirit will run a thousand Aussie dollars.

Review from sprues and brews:

https://spruesandbrews.com/2023/01/14/horus-ascended-unboxing-and-review-warhammer-the-horus-heresy/

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Review from sprues and brews:

https://spruesandbrews.com/2023/01/14/horus-ascended-unboxing-and-review-warhammer-the-horus-heresy/

The model itself is nice and way better proportioned than the big headed old one, but I still don't like the skeleton horde base.

A lot of the bad will GW faces comes from their arbitrary pricing. And it definitely abuses its largely price immune customer base. It would go a long way for them in the future were they to conform their prices to the exchange rate.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's so cool paying 31% more for literally no reason whatsoever.

No its your PRIVILEGE to pay the 31%, get it right

The final Exemplary Battles is up with a bit of information on how the series will progress. This time round we have Blood Angels Ofanim Court and Iron Hands Morlocks.
As for the future of the EB series:
With the Battle of Canopus, we conclude the first wave of the Exemplary Battles series, having covered every one of the Legions – and a massive sweep of alternative future history! In a few months we’ll be starting a second wave of articles, so fans of this format can rest assured more content is on the way.

In terms of theme, we’re moving away from the Legiones Astartes for the second wave, and looking instead at their mortal and daemonic allies. We’ll be presenting history, scenarios, and rules for a range of allied units from Daemons of the Ruinstorm to Cultists of the Primordial Annihilator, making use of existing miniatures and encouraging the ever-inventive Horus Heresy community.