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 Shadow Walker wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
It's possible it could made into plastic. Please, make sure it keeps it's interior detail and moving parts...

And the bottom plate

Wha…? Oh!

It's hilarious that on the Forgeworld front page they are advertising the 'Engines of Death'.

On the advert image are the Stormbird, Storm Eagle, Mastodon, and Vindicator, for Horus Heresy.

The Vindicator of both kinds is gone from all countries and the Mastodon is gone from UK site (but still available on US site).

Love it.

But yeah, seeing as the Mastodon is still available on US site, I don't think it's a hint that the kit is coming in plastic. Instead I think if you give it a week or so, it'll come back to the UK site as if nothing happened.

Compare that to the Vindicator variants, which are both gone on all country sites.

Typhon is £70 unsurprisingly

Dudeface wrote:
Typhon is £70 unsurprisingly

Makes sense. Trades the spartan ramp sprue for the gun, and the land raider sponson sprue for the smaller tank one.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Those intent on the Mastodon not coming to plastic are…confusing.

A not particularly charismatic, extremely niche unit in a niche side game would be a very strange choice for being GW's largest plastic kit of all time.

I disagree that it isn't charismatic. People have a lot of love for this due to the sheer impressiveness of it but at the same time it's daunting for anyone that knows what they're doing. It's the reason I bought stuff like the Asterius / Porphyrion (Asian variant) but not the Fellblade or Mastadon so I understand the rationale.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Would a Warhound be more profitable though?

I mean. I wouldn’t say not to one of those either. But it’s a lot of points, and for most armies, something you need to ally in.

The Mastodon is also a lot of points, but something the majority of Heresy armies, being Marines, can just include, rules for LoW limits not withstanding.

Only 50 points more, and it can be used by any HH army.

But be honest Mad Doc, you just want a plastic Mastodon for your Ironwing. You've got the treadhead bug. Nothing wrong with that. I know the feeling.

I’m not against Any Big Model. I’m just baffled folk seem so convinced the Mastodon won’t/can’t come to plastic.

The Thunderhawk may be more iconic. But….it’s a flier, so rules wise it’s a bit big to be a properly practical feasible playing piece.

I’d still buy one. I just think we are indeed getting a plakky Mastodon.

Also. Given the Mastodon forms an armoured corridor once it’s crashed through your wall? I’d want to install a short linear accelerator so the troops piling through the rear can make a proper grand entrance from the front.

I find the Mastodon incredibly charismatic, for what it’s worth. One of my favourite models in the whole Heresy range.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I find the Mastodon incredibly charismatic, for what it’s worth. One of my favourite models in the whole Heresy range.

Same here. Although I wouldn't say no if the Warhound came before it (assuming any of them is planned in plastic) as I really like it.

Anyway I'm afraid overnight the Mastodon got demoted from "No longer available" to "Temporarily out of stock".

Flachion, however, has joined the Fellblade and Glaive in the Sold Out club.

I’ll take one of them and all.

Not sure I will. Superheavies don't appeal to me gamewise and I already have a Baneblade display piece and that's a better sculpt than the HH versions.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m not against Any Big Model. I’m just baffled folk seem so convinced the Mastodon won’t/can’t come to plastic..

Can it come? Yes. I just don't assume it comes instantly because of feature that is well known bug from store...

Where's plastic thunderhawk and warhound? Based on your logic both should be here already since they have been in same state as Mastodon now...

Out of stock items appearing as no longer available is well known feature/bug of the store for YEARS AND YEARS. That's hardly evidence it is coming for sure.

I wait for actual evidence before proceeding to ignore whole release(since I can't field one no point buying one)

Mastodon looks the size of a large terrain piece, firestorm redoubt is about that size? Bloody thing could pass as a mobile apartment

Would I want one in plastic? I'd love to know..

I'd really like a plastic Mastodon FWIW, but we'll just have to see, as it looks like it's more a victim of the FW store system than discontinued.

But I can see a lot of 40k players buying a Fellblade too (I've always been a bit baffled by the lack of a Marine super heavy from GW, just seems a no brainer from their POV) so that seems much more likely to be imminent.

I would be fine with a mastodon in plastic, would even buy one while I dont plan to get one in resin. I just dont think it is likely anytime soon. Compared to other super heavy kits, it isn't nearly as iconic as the Thunderhawk or Warhound, which also have a lot more applicability to 40k and collectors/painters. The Fellblade is also a smaller kit that would also overlap with the glaive and falcon to get more use out of most of the hull sprues, where the mastodon is unique.

How many Dreads can be transported by a Mastodon?

 Strg Alt wrote:
How many Dreads can be transported by a Mastodon?

Each one counts as 10 infantry, so 4.

And people dislike Fury of the Ancients now?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And people dislike Fury of the Ancients now?

I love Fury of the Ancients. Lots of fun to play, rare to win unless my opponent has no grasp of small unit tactics.

I personally love Deredeo dreads, and use Hellfire Cannonades to really poor effect.

Well, as some suspected, the Mastodon is moved to Temp out of Stock. The Falchion though is now marked as sold out?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I would be fine with a mastodon in plastic, would even buy one while I dont plan to get one in resin. I just dont think it is likely anytime soon. Compared to other super heavy kits, it isn't nearly as iconic as the Thunderhawk or Warhound, which also have a lot more applicability to 40k and collectors/painters. The Fellblade is also a smaller kit that would also overlap with the glaive and falcon to get more use out of most of the hull sprues, where the mastodon is unique.

Eh. 30b is only one where any 3 are reallw usable. Warhound is automatic loss with opponent not even needing to waste time rolling attacks.

Thunderhawk eats silly amount of points for transport that you can't fill even and can unload turn 3 earliest...

Only way to use either in 40k is basically play huge(like 6k+) game on regular board size with custom terrain summed as planet bowling ball with both sides using such a point sink to fit on board...and then game is decided by who goes first annihilating enemy,

tneva82 wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I would be fine with a mastodon in plastic, would even buy one while I dont plan to get one in resin. I just dont think it is likely anytime soon. Compared to other super heavy kits, it isn't nearly as iconic as the Thunderhawk or Warhound, which also have a lot more applicability to 40k and collectors/painters. The Fellblade is also a smaller kit that would also overlap with the glaive and falcon to get more use out of most of the hull sprues, where the mastodon is unique.

Eh. 30b is only one where any 3 are reallw usable. Warhound is automatic loss with opponent not even needing to waste time rolling attacks.

Thunderhawk eats silly amount of points for transport that you can't fill even and can unload turn 3 earliest...

Only way to use either in 40k is basically play huge(like 6k+) game on regular board size with custom terrain summed as planet bowling ball with both sides using such a point sink to fit on board...and then game is decided by who goes first annihilating enemy,

I suspect that if the warhound was made into plastic it would see a points drop to match its actual value. Thunderhawk is a lot closer in points to what it is worth, but I would imagine it would drop some as well. They arent ork superheavies after all.

FW units haven't got point/rule changes even after plastic version came...so nope. Not expecting.

And besides warhound is too big so it breaks the game anyway. It's pretty much impossible to get point that isn't either autoloss or autowin.

So today will be a Vindicator day...or not?

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So today will be a Vindicator day...or not?

pls no.

pls infantry.

Hell i even take combiweapon box and or terminator weapon box over any other tank.

I reckon the Glaive and Fellblade today.

Not Online!!! wrote:
pls no.

pls infantry.

Hell i even take combiweapon box and or terminator weapon box over any other tank.

You know it won't be though.

Not Online!!! wrote:

Hell i even take combiweapon box and or terminator weapon box over any other tank.

Resin combi-weapon and seeker boltgun upgrades inbound

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So today will be a Vindicator day...or not?

pls no.

pls infantry.

Hell i even take combiweapon box and or terminator weapon box over any other tank.

Terminator weapons, especially in plastic, would be amazing