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Big week for Heresy pre-orders next Saturday.

Big week indeed. I really should sit this one out, I've already pledged for a massive Militia force from Wargames Atlantic. But am I gonna?

That's a pretty packed week! I'm wondering if the Solar Auxilia box is a limited release (probably, but you never know) ?

Two Solar Auxilia Infantry transfer sheets and two Solar Auxilia Vehicle transfer sheets featuring over 150 transfers each are provided, while rules for the units can be found in Liber Imperium – The Forces of the Emperor Army Book.

So is the Aethon Pattern Heavy Sentinel going to get rules in this box, as it's not in Liber Imperium, or do we have to wait for the "Battle for Beta-Garmon" campaign book?

beast_gts wrote:

Two Solar Auxilia Infantry transfer sheets and two Solar Auxilia Vehicle transfer sheets featuring over 150 transfers each are provided, while rules for the units can be found in Liber Imperium – The Forces of the Emperor Army Book.

So is the Aethon Pattern Heavy Sentinel going to get rules in this box, as it's not in Liber Imperium, or do we have to wait for the "Battle for Beta-Garmon" campaign book?

If past behavior is any indication, they will probably release the rules online too.

CorwinB wrote:
That's a pretty packed week! I'm wondering if the Solar Auxilia box is a limited release (probably, but you never know) ?

It's likely similar to the Battlegroup for Marines...sad part is that since they're not seemingly doing individual releases, that means I'm screwed.

Think I might be in for a brace of Apothecaries. Having painted 120 Marine Infantry, I’d hate for them all to get effortlessly deded.

 Kanluwen wrote:

CorwinB wrote:
That's a pretty packed week! I'm wondering if the Solar Auxilia box is a limited release (probably, but you never know) ?

It's likely similar to the Battlegroup for Marines...sad part is that since they're not seemingly doing individual releases, that means I'm screwed.

What do you mean? Obviously they'll do individual kits down the road?

Whew! That Solar Auxilia force is temmmpting.

I'll hold fire for a Krieg or Catachan release though*. Yes, 'impulse control' is my middle name! And Heresey and stuff amirite? I'm sure there's scale shenanigans or something.No side sponsons for muh tank? Begone James Workshop with your paltry offering!

And Gee Dubs are already getting some Kroot bucks out of me. Pah.

*We've seen 'Sort of Squats', Genestealers, Sisters of Battle and now Kroot. It's only a matter of time and I'm not and old fogey yet!

Super shiny box though, can't wait to see the different schemes people come up with for 'em.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

CorwinB wrote:
That's a pretty packed week! I'm wondering if the Solar Auxilia box is a limited release (probably, but you never know) ?

It's likely similar to the Battlegroup for Marines...sad part is that since they're not seemingly doing individual releases, that means I'm screwed.

What do you mean? Obviously they'll do individual kits down the road?

I mean that since they're not doing individual releases at the same time as the box, giving existing Solar Auxilia players an option to get some of the new shiny gubbins in plastic to fill the holes in their existing armies, I'm screwed. This becomes a "buy now or probably miss out" thing for me if I want to get into Horus Heresy, unlike the Iron Armour equipped Legiones Astartes Battlegroup, which gave two ways of buying the basic items.

 Kanluwen wrote:

CorwinB wrote:
That's a pretty packed week! I'm wondering if the Solar Auxilia box is a limited release (probably, but you never know) ?

It's likely similar to the Battlegroup for Marines...sad part is that since they're not seemingly doing individual releases, that means I'm screwed.

Confirmed as limited release on Twitter by the official GW account. But for the SM battle group, they released all new kits (MK3 & Deredeo) individually at a later time. Should be the same for SA.

CorwinB wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

CorwinB wrote:
That's a pretty packed week! I'm wondering if the Solar Auxilia box is a limited release (probably, but you never know) ?

It's likely similar to the Battlegroup for Marines...sad part is that since they're not seemingly doing individual releases, that means I'm screwed.

Confirmed as limited release on Twitter by the official GW account. But for the SM battle group, they released all new kits (MK3 & Deredeo) individually at a later time. Should be the same for SA.

They released all the Marine kits at the same time. I posted the preorder preview article.

There's a reason why the battlegroup has lasted for Marines and why this won't for Auxilia.

Wonder how long those dice will last…

Price (and availability) depending, I think I’m in for this bad boy.

 zedmeister wrote:
Wonder how long those dice will last…

Well, with proper care and gentle rolling, a ripe eye for thieving fingers, and not putting them in needles danger, dice can serve for many years.

Here's hoping I can get both a pack of dice and two sets of the battle group, going to need that infantry as a solid army core after all.

Guessing the combined value on this battlegroup is so good that one should try to buy it now, even though all the items will be available separately later?

They almost got me this time.. but nah. I got too much 28mil toys already, only adding the specific items I want from now on, regardless of "value". So I'll just wait it out, and buy a Malcador and the Hvy Sentinel individually when they become available. Its a similar baiting ploy they had with the LI starter, flock that, I decide what I buy and when thankyouverymuch

I might bite on this box to supplement my incoming WGA militia. But only REALLY interested in tank/sentinel.


I hope this box is same price as the MKIII battlegroup.

I’d love it to be the same price as the Astartes one, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a bit more. It’s slightly less infantry, the Dread and Sentinel are pretty similar but then this one has 2 tanks.

I need to figure out how to convert the Dracosan into a 40k vehicle and then I'll buy this box for some lovely IG.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I’d love it to be the same price as the Astartes one, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a bit more. It’s slightly less infantry, the Dread and Sentinel are pretty similar but then this one has 2 tanks.

It's a single box of Solar Auxilia Infantry, a Line Command set, a dedicated transport, Leman Russ, and a Sentinel.

This one better not be more than the Legiones Astartes one.

If you consider the likely costs of those items individually, it's pretty obvious that there's probably more value in this box than the mk3 one.

Mk3 box:
$112.50 for 1.5 mk3 tac Squads
$80 for the dorito
$90 for the Proteus
$23.50 for half the special weapons set

Total $306

SA box (estimated):
$80 for the SA infantry
$45 for the command squad
$50 for the sentinel
$65 for the russ
$80 for the dracosan


Total $320

Do you really think that Auxilia infantry will be $80 for 20? Or that the Sentinel is going to be $50?

 Kanluwen wrote:

I mean that since they're not doing individual releases at the same time as the box, giving existing Solar Auxilia players an option to get some of the new shiny gubbins in plastic to fill the holes in their existing armies, I'm screwed. This becomes a "buy now or probably miss out" thing for me if I want to get into Horus Heresy, unlike the Iron Armour equipped Legiones Astartes Battlegroup, which gave two ways of buying the basic items.

Do you just mean you want the big box but don't have the money this month? Otherwise i still don't see it.


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Dracosan being less than the Proteus seems a bit optimistic, OTOH.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

I mean that since they're not doing individual releases at the same time as the box, giving existing Solar Auxilia players an option to get some of the new shiny gubbins in plastic to fill the holes in their existing armies, I'm screwed. This becomes a "buy now or probably miss out" thing for me if I want to get into Horus Heresy, unlike the Iron Armour equipped Legiones Astartes Battlegroup, which gave two ways of buying the basic items.

Do you just mean you want the big box but don't have the money this month? Otherwise i still don't see it.

Okay. So, think about it like this:
The Legiones Astartes Battlegroup is still around now for purchase.

Why? Because Mark III Armour and the Deredo were both available for individual purchase at the same time.

I could easily afford to get it, I just am concerned because they've stated it's a limited item, without providing an alternative avenue for existing players to bulk out their own stuff, that this is going to be another target for "40kfinance" goons. It would be terrible if this is a thing that actually wasn't able to get out into the hands of people who would value it for actual gaming purposes.

Dracosan being less than the Proteus seems a bit optimistic, OTOH.

I don't know anything about that, so I'll let you guys argue about it.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Wonder how long those dice will last…

Well, with proper care and gentle rolling, a ripe eye for thieving fingers, and not putting them in needles danger, dice can serve for many years.

I think you need to get your coat...

 Kanluwen wrote:
Do you really think that Auxilia infantry will be $80 for 20? Or that the Sentinel is going to be $50?

Yes?

A regular Astra Militarum sentinel is $45. The Aethon is bigger and contains more parts to cover the large variety of weapons available to it. One would assume that will translate to a need for more sprues, which means more dollars.

10 cadians cost $50, 10 kriegers cost $60, 5 tempestus scions cost $45. $80 for 20 comparable minis is a steal, and we'll be lucky if it doesn't cost more.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Do you really think that Auxilia infantry will be $80 for 20? Or that the Sentinel is going to be $50?

Yes?

A regular Astra Militarum sentinel is $45. The Aethon is bigger and contains more parts to cover the large variety of weapons available to it. One would assume that will translate to a need for more sprues, which means more dollars.

On the contrary, the Aethon might be bigger...but it's not having to waste sprue space building two variants.

10 cadians cost $50

Right. Because that's a dedicated unit, which has a separate upgrade sprue sold for it.

10 kriegers cost $60

10 Krieg models and their respective Kill Team upgrade sprue. Just sayin', there's a reason it's a bit more.

5 tempestus scions cost $45.

Always been overpriced, no argument there.

$80 for 20 comparable minis is a steal, and we'll be lucky if it doesn't cost more.

Sure, but the thing to note is that the Mark III set is $75 rather than $80. Which you know, as you marked out the price.

So do you REALLY still think that a box of 20 Solar Auxilia, with no upgrades included, will be $80? When there's a Marine unit of similar numbers at $75? When similar sized 20 model unit boxes(Skeletons, Zombies, and Mortek Guard) for AoS are $60?

It could be a box for $75, but a $5 change doesn't really make the set less value than the legiones astartes battle group, does it? No sense quibbling over $5.

I very much doubt it's a box of 20 for $60 (and actually the wording in the LVO preview implied that they'll end up being sold individually in sets of 10 rather than 20, so I imagine it could end up being even more expensive)

I wouldn't mind if they made some stock for Charonite ogryns :(