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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 17:41:51
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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So looks like both the Line Tercios and command squads are built around a common sprue. The Tercio Line Sections get 4x of that sprue per box, while the Command Section gets 1x sprue + 1 more sprue to trick them out and which has the parts needed to make a Legate Marshal/a 6th miniature.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 17:50:24
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Little bit irritating that they say ‘if you have a spare base’. They really couldn’t throw an extra 28mm in there?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 17:50:29
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Honestly that is better
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 17:51:45
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Until we see the promised Command and Assault upgrade set for Marines, I reckon all those pistols from the Sola Auxilia are gonna command a pretty penny on the bitz market. Like a couple of quid each, minimum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 17:52:57
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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I have to imagine that they would be too small to use on marines? Unless maybe you're building an army from the tiny hands legion...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 18:00:06
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Shouldn’t be that much difference. GW tends to reuse such assets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 18:19:27
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Foxy Wildborne
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The extra sprue space compared to Marines really shows.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 18:51:22
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Nippers, sharpe knife, glue and a drill and some rod just incase pinning is needed will make them fit a marine.
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My hobby instagram account: @the_shroud_of_vigilance
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 18:53:36
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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What do you mean extra sprue space?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 18:57:20
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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lord_blackfang wrote: endlesswaltz123 wrote:I think since the age of Darkness box set, they have been a tiny bit more measured in terms of infantry in the big boxes. Painting fatigue is a thing. In addition, those model are lovely, but will be a pain to paint, more so than marines.
45+ of them in a box would have been a non starter for many many people.
"Player starting horde army doesn't want a lot of models in the discount box" is one of the weirder copiums I've seen this month. But I admit I keep out of the 40k section
I didn't mean it for those who are already dead set on an SA army - I've got an 80+ Krieg army, and that was a chore... That army isn't even that big compared to some.
I just mean for those jumping in, when they haven't actually completed a force that large before, a lot fall at the hurdle of trying to build and paint 50+ models in a reasonable amount of time... They can never get there. Doing 25 doesn't seem so bad at first, and you can do another 20+ afterwords then if needed. I'm probably not making much sense, basically, forcing people to do manageable chunks can help to keep them going.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 19:10:43
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Separate legs and torso from modern GW? I'm amazed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 20:06:19
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Amazing kit really. Darn... i allready HAVE a militia army.... must resist...
BUt sheesh thankfully i own my own table but those bajonetts..
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/26 20:16:01
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I'm happy that the power cells shown in the previews are optional, bit sad though that the sword bayonets have been replaced with simpler spikes. Loving the extra mini thrown into the command sprue, does make it easier to run them as companions if you're taking a Legate commander.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 00:32:22
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Until we see the promised Command and Assault upgrade set for Marines, I reckon all those pistols from the Sola Auxilia are gonna command a pretty penny on the bitz market. Like a couple of quid each, minimum.
Seeing this, I'm now expecting the command squad for SM to be similar- a normal 5 man sprue of Mk III or VI, and a sprue with command upgrade parts. Maybe a centurion/praetor model as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 00:38:10
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MajorWesJanson wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Until we see the promised Command and Assault upgrade set for Marines, I reckon all those pistols from the Sola Auxilia are gonna command a pretty penny on the bitz market. Like a couple of quid each, minimum.
Seeing this, I'm now expecting the command squad for SM to be similar- a normal 5 man sprue of Mk III or VI, and a sprue with command upgrade parts. Maybe a centurion/praetor model as well.
If it just uses the bodies form those sprues it should even be possible to fit enough bits on the command sprues to enable both MKIII and VI squads, the arms can be adapted with extra armour plates as already seen for the heavy weapons and if they just include two sets of heads for both MKIII and VI everything else should be usable for both MK variants
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 00:48:56
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Matrindur wrote: MajorWesJanson wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Until we see the promised Command and Assault upgrade set for Marines, I reckon all those pistols from the Sola Auxilia are gonna command a pretty penny on the bitz market. Like a couple of quid each, minimum.
Seeing this, I'm now expecting the command squad for SM to be similar- a normal 5 man sprue of Mk III or VI, and a sprue with command upgrade parts. Maybe a centurion/praetor model as well.
If it just uses the bodies form those sprues it should even be possible to fit enough bits on the command sprues to enable both MKIII and VI squads, the arms can be adapted with extra armour plates as already seen for the heavy weapons and if they just include two sets of heads for both MKIII and VI everything else should be usable for both MK variants
As a command squad they could even toss in a couple of Mk II, IV, or V heads as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 01:04:44
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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From the look at it it seems like simple head-swaps with several 40k kits (Skitarii, Neophytes, Cadians) are possible. Maybe arms too. Not that I dislike the kit, it looks great, but those options would be even greater.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 02:19:40
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Beret heads from Tempestus Scions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 14:15:13
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/27/solar-auxilia-tanks-size-comparisons-heres-how-they-measure-up/
Hype-building fluff-piece.
Does anyone else find it odd that Malcadors don't have access to volkite weapon options? They're supposedly older tanks built during age of strife, from before bolters came into vogue and when volkite was the predominant weapon technology prior to its eventual phase-out. Yet it has relatively "mundane" weapon options, including bolters. Then you have the leman russ incinerator which does have a volkite weapon, despite being the newer tank...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 14:17:11
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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I thought Volkite was an early advancement of the Imperium/Mechanicum for retaking the solar system, so an Age of Strife tank would be lower tech than that? Maybe I have that mixed up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 14:21:49
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Volkite weapons were in use during the Age of Strife and are pre-Imperial in origin. They were replaced by bolters which were developed later, after it became clear that volkite weapons were too costly/time consuming to manufacture and production could not keep up with the demands of the great crusade.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 14:38:40
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Foxy Wildborne
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chaos0xomega wrote:Does anyone else find it odd that Malcadors don't have access to volkite weapon options? They're supposedly older tanks built during age of strife, from before bolters came into vogue
Sounds like a phoned in retcon, when the first Malcador sculpt had a turret of 4 heavy bolters...
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 14:55:09
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Thats another weird thing - the complete absence of the malcador defender from the 31st millennium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 16:07:02
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 16:12:42
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Did SA really need *another* heavy support choice though?
Also, is it me or does the Mechanized subtype seem... unnecessarily punishing?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 16:13:59
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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I am mistaken, one doesn't require the new book for the sentinel... good job GW Otoh, this thing singlehandedly made the rapier obsolete it seems. Automatically Appended Next Post: chaos0xomega wrote:Did SA really need *another* heavy support choice though? Also, is it me or does the Mechanized subtype seem... unnecessarily punishing? It's a direct copy from the militia sentinel. But frankly this is a dreadnought light for 70 pts that has an ordnance weapon and a multi laser. Not shabby. Also 4 HK missiles and a melta lance or Lascannon? Ouch. Oh and an 18 " armorbane weapon on top... Nice.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2024/02/27 16:19:02
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 16:20:00
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Foxy Wildborne
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Dreadnought stats for 70 is pretty nutso, even if the firepower is nothing to write home about.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 16:23:13
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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I dont see how it made Rapiers obsolete - one HS slot gets me 9 rapiers or 3 Aethons. Given how reliant SA are on leman russ vanquisher spa to accomplish anything, those HS slots are at a premium, and I just don't see 3 Aethons cutting it as anything more than a filler choice for your last 200-300 pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 16:27:18
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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lord_blackfang wrote:Dreadnought stats for 70 is pretty nutso, even if the firepower is nothing to write home about. The firepower is superior though to the normal dreads? You get a barrage weapon ontop of a ML. That is 2.5 of them for a single normal contemptor... It turns a bit into disfavour when considering the gravis melta but this thing also has a better melta with a full 18" armourbane and it get's a squadron discount... the only the normal contemptor has over this is the brutal melee weapon and T 7. Automatically Appended Next Post: chaos0xomega wrote:I dont see how it made Rapiers obsolete - one HS slot gets me 9 rapiers or 3 Aethons. Given how reliant SA are on leman russ vanquisher spa to accomplish anything, those HS slots are at a premium, and I just don't see 3 Aethons cutting it as anything more than a filler choice for your last 200-300 pts. Tankcohort. Cognis signum commander as a HQ and troop slots filled with vanquishers 3 open HS slots, could help against massed fodder infantry which milita can rely on to just outlast you and is a missmatch for vanquisher spam.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2024/02/27 16:34:03
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 16:40:25
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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chaos0xomega wrote:Did SA really need *another* heavy support choice though?
Also, is it me or does the Mechanized subtype seem... unnecessarily punishing?
I'm pretty sure its the same rule for a Dreadnought. So no extra punishment.
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