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**Not Online!!!**

Matrindur wrote:
Article is up now and shows another image that clearly is a 28mm version since it has the new Tech Thralls in it:

on the left there's a techthrall standing clearly on a base...

Honestly, i don't see the need for a big crawly thing for mechanicum / dark mech over the "common" daemoneninges. Which may well be coming along in plastic well seeing as we got not so small waves sofar..

Otoh that is one cool bot.

**BrookM**

That is a big fether alright!

**MajorWesJanson**

Its tall, but a lot of the volume is those spindly legs, so the kit may not be super big/expensive. I'd guess Questoris price or less.

**Sotahullu**

If that is a "heavy" stalker then are we going to see a "regular" stalker?

**Matrindur**

Also didn't notice on the model itself but are those round discs on each side of the weapon void shield generators? They look the same to me as the ones on Titans but would be smaller. And 4 of those would bring this into the same territory as a Reaver Titan. Or do Ion Shield Generators look the same?
(Of course might be something else entirely)

**Dysartes**

Always nice to see a Cryx Crabjack take to the table.

**Sunno**

Dysartes wrote:
Always nice to see a Cryx Crabjack take to the table.

WM/H continuing in it role of passing all its good ideas to GW lol

**Gadzilla666**

Not Online!!! wrote:
Matrindur wrote:
Article is up now and shows another image that clearly is a 28mm version since it has the new Tech Thralls in it:

on the left there's a techthrall standing clearly on a base...

Honestly, i don't see the need for a big crawly thing for mechanicum / dark mech over the "common" daemoneninges. Which may well be coming along in plastic well seeing as we got not so small waves sofar..

Otoh that is one cool bot.

It's what daemon engines should've been. Instead of "Dino bots". Here's hoping for more.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

I’m liking the Necron influence in the design, something I noticed when painting my Thallaxi.

**chaos0xomega**

Copying my comment from the LI thread:

The crab things look like digital renders with the plastic tech thralls edited into the image to me, rather than them being true full sized 40k scale models. There's a pretty stark level of difference in detail, lighting, and contrast between the thralls and the big guys. At a minimum they were not photographed together under the same lighting.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Article also confirms options for the underslung weapons.

They are equipped with devastating weaponry like the aether-powered exo-planar bombard, which reduces infantry and vehicles alike to molten waste, or the shield-stripping storm laser array which makes short work of void shields. Some are equipped with a complement of writhing underslung lascutters for cutting open reinforced armour, while others are mounted with irradiation engines that clear fortifications of their inhabitants with pulses of deadly energy.

And the promise/threat of more to come!

The Serperos is just one of the many accursed engines of war that the Dark Mechanicum concocted during the Horus Heresy, and we’ll lift the rusted metallic veil from the rest in due course. Rise of the Dark Mechanicum also covers the Doom of Magma City, alongside a new Escalation Campaign that allows you to link battles over a series of conflicts which end with a final, epic Grand Clash.

Go on. Join us in teeny tiny warfare.

You know you want.

You know resistance is futile.

Join usssssssss.

**Tsagualsa**

Matrindur wrote:
Also didn't notice on the model itself but are those round discs on each side of the weapon void shield generators? They look the same to me as the ones on Titans but would be smaller. And 4 of those would bring this into the same territory as a Reaver Titan. Or do Ion Shield Generators look the same?
(Of course might be something else entirely)

I think these are Flare Shield generators, as seen on e.g. some of the mechanicum Knight classes.

**SirDonlad**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Article also confirms options for the underslung weapons.

They are equipped with devastating weaponry like the aether-powered exo-planar bombard, which reduces infantry and vehicles alike to molten waste, or the shield-stripping storm laser array which makes short work of void shields. Some are equipped with a complement of writhing underslung lascutters for cutting open reinforced armour, while others are mounted with irradiation engines that clear fortifications of their inhabitants with pulses of deadly energy.

And the promise/threat of more to come!

The Serperos is just one of the many accursed engines of war that the Dark Mechanicum concocted during the Horus Heresy, and we’ll lift the rusted metallic veil from the rest in due course. Rise of the Dark Mechanicum also covers the Doom of Magma City, alongside a new Escalation Campaign that allows you to link battles over a series of conflicts which end with a final, epic Grand Clash.

Is this the content which should have been in The Martian Civil War book?
I think it is the content which should have been in The Martian Civil War book!

**MajorWesJanson**

Agreed.

**insaniak**

chaos0xomega wrote:
Copying my comment from the LI thread:

The crab things look like digital renders with the plastic tech thralls edited into the image to me, rather than them being true full sized 40k scale models. There's a pretty stark level of difference in detail, lighting, and contrast between the thralls and the big guys. At a minimum they were not photographed together under the same lighting.

This. I thought it looked like a composite pic using 40K infantry and the LI walker.

**Matrindur**

insaniak wrote:

This. I thought it looked like a composite pic using 40K infantry and the LI walker.

That image is 100% not the LI version, just look at the shield generator discs on the carapace on each side of the weapon and compare them to the actual model images.

No idea whether or not its an actual full size model or just a digital artwork but its for sure not the LI model

**CragHack**

Oooh, this will be cancerous to transport. Not just because of all those spindly parts, but the overall space leg position takes.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Been reading my Mechanicum rule book, and I see it mentions certain Automata as being developed from (literally) older models, such as the Domitar being a development from the ancient Conqueror design.

With Dark Mechanicum being promised new toys, I wonder if we might see Loyalist Mechanicum get those older patterns realised, representing the desperation of the hour, and no existing resource going unfielded?

**SirDonlad**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Been reading my Mechanicum rule book, and I see it mentions certain Automata as being developed from (literally) older models, such as the Domitar being a development from the ancient Conqueror design.

With Dark Mechanicum being promised new toys, I wonder if we might see Loyalist Mechanicum get those older patterns realised, representing the desperation of the hour, and no existing resource going unfielded?

I'd prefer it if they didn't - they'd probably group them up into singular classes despite the obvious differences in design and loadout.

My personal headcannon is the '-ax' variants are where the great crusade became properly supplied with munitions and no longer needed to do munitions-sharing, allowing the Legio Cybernetica to tailor and specialize their weapons and armour away from the patterns used by the Legion Marines.

**YodhrinsForge**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Been reading my Mechanicum rule book, and I see it mentions certain Automata as being developed from (literally) older models, such as the Domitar being a development from the ancient Conqueror design.

With Dark Mechanicum being promised new toys, I wonder if we might see Loyalist Mechanicum get those older patterns realised, representing the desperation of the hour, and no existing resource going unfielded?

While at first blush that sounds like a cool idea to me since it might lead to the oldschool Jes concept sketches getting models, thinking about it makes me realize it's far more likely to result in Kastellan-styled takes on the original designs since GW seem to have decided that awful design language is now what the Dark Age of Technology looked like, so on reflection I hope not.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Possibly.

But hey, around 24 hours to the next Heresy Thursday.

We’ve got two low hanging fruit out the way, including one we’d been awaiting for a long while.

Any bets for tomorrow?

I’m gonna gamble on something Mechanicum, probably the Domitar. No particular logic behind that.

**beast_gts**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Any bets for tomorrow?

Hoping for the Vultarax, but expecting the Thanatar-Calix.

**MajorWesJanson**

Krios Id say

**ScarletRose**

I think they'll throw a curveball and it'll be a marine unit. Either another tank (I remember we were promised lots more

) or the other loadouts for the Deredeo.

**lord_blackfang**

Is it even guaranteed that every Thursday is a new model? Also it can be for LI, right?

But yea the other Deredeo is bound to happen soon.

**BrookM**

Can we get back on topic and take all other discussion elsewhere please.

**ImAGeek**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Is it even guaranteed that every Thursday is a new model? Also it can be for LI, right?

But yea the other Deredeo is bound to happen soon.

It can be LI, but I’m hoping for proper heresy just because they just had a preview. But it’s always a new model or book, from what I remember.

**Marshal Loss**

I want proper heresy which means it will probably be baby heresy. Suspect they'll swing back and forth pretty consistently

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

I checked back, and no hints were given last week as to what we might see this week.

**MajorWesJanson**

They could be trolls and show off the full scale version of the Dark Mech stalker that they just revealed for LI