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 xttz wrote:

 Gert wrote:

There's not a shred of evidence to support a new edition.

Well yes, evidence is the difference between a rumour and a leak.

 Gert wrote:
The 3-year cycle only applies to 40k and AoS

So far HH has had precisely one edition as a standalone plastic game, and that was under 3 years ago. It's too early to draw this conclusion.

Using that logic you could also argue that it's impossible to expect plastic Eldar warp spiders, as they've only been previously released as resin.

Warp spiders existed as metal before they were resin....

 xttz wrote:
Using that logic you could also argue that it's impossible to expect plastic Eldar warp spiders, as they've only been previously released as resin.

*cough*Don'tforgetthemetal*cough*

I'd make the argument not to expect them while there are other Aspect Warriors to do first, and probably two more Dark Reaper re-releases to do as well, given we're currently on Reapers v4, but Spiders v1. Track records do speak for themselves...

 Matrindur wrote:
Of course it can just as likely be a complete reset that changes everything but I don't think HH really fits that strategy

True, but there were also rumours that the alleged 3rd Edition would introduce major changes, including removing the current options for customising units. While I try not to engage in GW bashing, I can see them doing something like that to make HH more 'accessible', even if that's not what the majority of existing players want.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I'm coming from a place of ignorance here, but I would like to know about the difference between Age o' Darkness 1st Edition and 2nd Edition. Was there a huge rules change or was it primarily a clean up?

I didn't play the earlier edition, but it was clearly a fairly significant overhaul (although not as drastic as the changes from 7th Edition to 8th Edition WH40k). Older players complain about things like reactions, nerfed artillery, and changes to specific units and chapter rules.

GW have outright told us kill team exists on a 3 year cycle from now on. Hell, even MESBG has just had a 40k style range trimming and a new edition coming out 2 years after the previous version.

At this point it's at best naive to assume they won't do more regular updates to their other properties.

Just as a side note, the current ed of Middle-Earth came out in 2018. So it's been a six year gap with this new ed.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Just as a side note, the current ed of Middle-Earth came out in 2018. So it's been a six year gap with this new ed.

But a new printing of the book from last year is being invalidated already

If things are on a 3 year cycle, wouldn't there be something new for AT by now?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
If things are on a 3 year cycle, wouldn't there be something new for AT by now?

With Dark Mech coming out, don't be too surprised if that isn't far off.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
If things are on a 3 year cycle, wouldn't there be something new for AT by now?

The main headline games 40K, AOS, and Kill Team are on a 3 year cycle. This discussion is about if HHv2 will fall under that group too.

The specialist games are far more creatively-led and inconsistent. They don't get enough new models to justify a big box release every 3 years, and instead divert off into expansions & variants like Ash Wastes or Aeronautica.

If we get any updated version of AT then I expect it'll either be:
a) A refreshed starter box that just uses another combination of existing models
b) Done in lieu of regular LI releases, and fall at the end of LI's 2-4 year cycle.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Just as a side note, the current ed of Middle-Earth came out in 2018. So it's been a six year gap with this new ed.

They did a .5 with the box:

"An updated rulebook, containing the latest FAQs and errata."


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 xttz wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
If things are on a 3 year cycle, wouldn't there be something new for AT by now?

The main headline games 40K, AOS, and Kill Team are on a 3 year cycle. This discussion is about if HHv2 will fall under that group too.

Kill team is not a headline game, expand the warhamer store menu and the 4 headliners are, in order:

- 40k
- AoS
- HH
- TOW

KT is a 'headline' game in the sense that it gets:
A three-year cycle of regular releases... like 40k and AOS
Bespoke animated trailers & marketing material... like 40k and AOS
Official competitive support... like 40k and AOS
More balance updates, digital rules, & FAQ support that most GW specialist games put together... like 40k and AOS

As always, you can rely on Dakka for someone to breathlessly charge in and nitpick with WELL ACKSHULLY YOU HAVE TO CLICK OVER HERE ON THE WEBSITE as if that's remotely relevant to the point being discussed.

Depending on how you define "headline", "main" "core", etc there are either 2 or 4 games, kill team is not one of them (and even labeling HH/TOW is dubious and based only on a constantly changing webaite layout).

Currently, at least in my region it isn't even on the front
the headline games are 40k, AoS, HH & TOW, under "more" there is Middle Earth and other game and under that is KT

KT being part of the 40k department and therefore is handled like the other game of that department

Someone declare a "no true scotsman" contest in here?

it's only a mainline game if it comes from the Mainline region of Nottingham. otherwise, it's just a sparkling specialist game

Matrindur wrote:
Necromunda got a new core Rulebook about every two years as far as I can see

Well, akshually, Necromunda got a new printing/rearrangement of pretty much the same rules every time they came out with a new box set. Most of those were never released separately.
The only significant changes were in the Core Rulebook released in '23. IMNSHO that barely counts as a .5 edition release.
Hive Secundus uses the Core-23 rules, with a few special rules, and a new campaign type.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Someone declare a "no true scotsman" contest in here?

I’m a genuine Scotsman, and I haven’t the foggiest.

 xttz wrote:
KT is a 'headline' game in the sense that it gets:
A three-year cycle of regular releases... like 40k and AOS
Bespoke animated trailers & marketing material... like 40k and AOS
Official competitive support... like 40k and AOS
More balance updates, digital rules, & FAQ support that most GW specialist games put together... like 40k and AOS

As always, you can rely on Dakka for someone to breathlessly charge in and nitpick with WELL ACKSHULLY YOU HAVE TO CLICK OVER HERE ON THE WEBSITE as if that's remotely relevant to the point being discussed.

Ok, so what you're saying is you made up a criteria list in your head and decided it was a universal truth? Because funnily Warcry and Underpants both are now mainline games I guess.

But we can ignore that HH had a fancy pants trailer, a load of marketing time and massive support in this edition in terms of supplements and plastic releases.

It pretty much comes down to what you see on the shelves at your local Warhammer store; pretty much 40K on oneside and AoS on the other, in my neck of the woods. Everything else is a trip to a specialist wargame shop, or online indie.

But getting back to Horus Heresy banter, I'm going to go with just a new economical starter. I'd guess that the Iron Warriors and Salamander rumour would refer to another HH boardgame, if true.

If any Horus Heresy game is due for a new edition it would undoubtably be Adeptus Titanicus.

On a less controversial topic - Heresy Thursday this week, yes or no?

If yes, model reveal, book reveal, or paint scheme/background article?

If model or book reveal, for AOD, AT or LI?

 Dysartes wrote:
On a less controversial topic - Heresy Thursday this week, yes or no?

If yes, model reveal, book reveal, or paint scheme/background article?

If model or book reveal, for AOD, AT or LI?

Wasn't mentioned on the Sunday article so probably not.

 Dysartes wrote:
On a less controversial topic - Heresy Thursday this week, yes or no?

If yes, model reveal, book reveal, or paint scheme/background article?

If model or book reveal, for AOD, AT or LI?

Yes, there will be a Heresy Thursday tomorrow and it will be absolutely imperial. They'll be announcing the long awaited plastic Thunderhawk and a new campaign book to go with it. Legions Imperialis players will be told they should stop being greedy and be grateful for all the wonderful releases they've had this year. Adeptus Titanicus players will have wait their turn.

 Dysartes wrote:
On a less controversial topic - Heresy Thursday this week, yes or no?

HOW DARE YOU

SamusDrake wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
On a less controversial topic - Heresy Thursday this week, yes or no?

If yes, model reveal, book reveal, or paint scheme/background article?

If model or book reveal, for AOD, AT or LI?

Yes, there will be a Heresy Thursday tomorrow and it will be absolutely imperial. They'll be announcing the long awaited plastic Thunderhawk and a new campaign book to go with it. Legions Imperialis players will be told they should stop being greedy and be grateful for all the wonderful releases they've had this year. Adeptus Titanicus players will have wait their turn.

I have the AT book on order...


.... and based upon my "purchase stuff for game, whoops we got a new edition for ya" record, the new rules should be out in 3 weeks.

Give or take shipping times.

How about we pretend that heresy thursday never came back?
I recon that might be beneficial.

I think GW is the corporate embodiment of Arthur Dent.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:


I have the AT book on order...


.... and based upon my "purchase stuff for game, whoops we got a new edition for ya" record, the new rules should be out in 3 weeks.

Give or take shipping times.

That would be unfortunate! But seriously how much you paid for it?

Just curious, weren't you thinking of getting the AT starter set?

Until I move to central nowhere at the end of February, I'm a little cash strapped, so I thought 29 bucks for the core book was doable.

Oooooooooooh, I see. I must say that it's a lovely book to flick through, game aside.

That's also why my book collection is outgrowing my model collection until 2025.

Tell me about it! I keep getting ideas for Knight conversions and just can't bare not putting my own spin on them...



...the stock Armiger heads were just too boring!