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Yeah, GW would never retcon anything about Marine armour...

I hope, if they rework the MK4, they also release them for LI.

Heresy Thursday – Mechanicum Knights rally in Legions Imperialis

Hmm. I wonder if they come with Adeptus Titanicus rules.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Hmm. I wonder if they come with Adeptus Titanicus rules.

The box also contains two command terminals for use in games of Adeptus Titanicus.

Also, plastic, box of four, and can build four of either.

beast_gts wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Hmm. I wonder if they come with Adeptus Titanicus rules.

The box also contains two command terminals for use in games of Adeptus Titanicus.

Thank you. My work phone [that I am totally not using ] doesn't like links.

I think this bodes well for a 30K kit a bit later on. With only two loadouts and no carapace weapon, I'd venture a bit cheaper than the Questoris kit.

Four Cerastus cheaper than three Questoris?

SamusDrake wrote:
I think this bodes well for a 30K kit a bit later on. With only two loadouts and no carapace weapon, I'd venture a bit cheaper than the Questoris kit.

The odd part is that it's supposed to be a Questoris. Guess the carapace weapon was one of the technologies that was around for 25,000 years, lost during the HH and then rediscovered later... kinda like Dominus Knights.

JWBS wrote:
Four Cerastus cheaper than three Questoris?

I'm referring to this Questoris Kit...

https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/questoris-households-knight-questoris-2022

...which I would use as the basis of a guess as to what it's Mechanicum counterpart kit would look like, given a plastic update. I'd say that it would be 3-4 sprues instead of 5, and somewhere around £95 to £100.


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 Lathe Biosas wrote:


The odd part is that it's supposed to be a Questoris. Guess the carapace weapon was one of the technologies that was around for 25,000 years, lost during the HH and then rediscovered later... kinda like Dominus Knights.

I would guess that it's because the Magaera and Styrix draw more power than their House-hold counterparts. Maybe the stronger arm weapons, and the ability to repair, doesn't leave enough power for a carapace weapon?

Its because those knights have Thralls in command.
The full, Onageresque Thrall-in-a-jar treatment.

Thats why they have no visible entrance hatch; the pilot cant leave on its own volition.
Its proper grimdark, but thats why i dont have those carapaces on my knights.
Well, apart from one, which i'll get round to swapping out eventually.

Lovely stuff, although I may die painting that much detail at that scale.

 SirDonlad wrote:
Its because those knights have Thralls in command.
The full, Onageresque Thrall-in-a-jar treatment.

Thats why they have no visible entrance hatch; the pilot cant leave on its own volition.
Its proper grimdark, but thats why i dont have those carapaces on my knights.
Well, apart from one, which i'll get round to swapping out eventually.

Managed to miss that! Where can I read more?

Please note that when I essentially ask “sauce?” on background it’s because I wish to know more, and am not calling the poster out. This disclaimer is necessary due to lack of tone of voice in text, and I don’t want anyone getting the wrong end of the stick.

Mk4 Marines would be nice.

I wish HH would return to the Early Heresy and the Istvaan Campaign...

What do you mean? There is nothing stopping you from playing out the Isstvan campaigns.

 Gert wrote:
What do you mean? There is nothing stopping you from playing out the Isstvan campaigns.

I guess he means when there was less variation? No demon primarchs, no black shields, less legion deviation in general, and more homoginization?

idk.

IW Warsmith Dominus Rules (PDF)

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 SirDonlad wrote:
Its because those knights have Thralls in command.
The full, Onageresque Thrall-in-a-jar treatment.

Thats why they have no visible entrance hatch; the pilot cant leave on its own volition.
Its proper grimdark, but thats why i dont have those carapaces on my knights.
Well, apart from one, which i'll get round to swapping out eventually.

Managed to miss that! Where can I read more?

Please note that when I essentially ask “sauce?” on background it’s because I wish to know more, and am not calling the poster out. This disclaimer is necessary due to lack of tone of voice in text, and I don’t want anyone getting the wrong end of the stick.

I have found no sources to support this, the few references to how they are controlled or piloted all imply that they are piloted in the traditional way, in that they mention or reference petsonality traits of the scions who typically pilot them, etc.

Via B&C:

So it's terrible, but it looks ok, but it's good value. What?

Waiter! This food is terrible. And such small portions.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So it's terrible, but it looks ok, but it's good value. What?

Let me translate:

Box looks like a bad boxset overall, dread looks bad and so does the terminator character. Basic marines look good and close to the resin. No opinion/mid on the hydra platform thing and termies. Good value monetarily.

"I saw the box everyone wants to know about but have no information to give about contents, only my subjective judgement of it"

Even this from 4chan sounds better:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
"I saw the box everyone wants to know about but have no information to give about contents, only my subjective judgement of it"

Maybe it's like Schrödinger's cat.

Schrödinger's cat is a thought experiment illustrating the strangeness of quantum mechanics, suggesting that a cat in a box with a radioactive substance is both alive and dead until observed, highlighting the concept of superposition.

But in this instance, we cannot truly know the contents of the box until it has been opened and viewed.

At least we know it's a bag of but good value!

Welp, if these rumours turn out to be correct, I'm happy for MKII fans.

Personally however, I will not be buying HH 3 box if the contents are what these rumours claim they will be. I got no use for MKII, a physical rulebook nor a Hydra flakk gun platform. Better just to buy the Saturmine termies individually (if I even fancy the way they look, a big if) and the epub rulebook later

 tauist wrote:
Welp, if these rumours turn out to be correct, I'm happy for MKII fans.

Personally however, I will not be buying HH 3 box if the contents are what these rumours claim they will be. I got no use for MKII, a physical rulebook nor a Hydra flakk gun platform. Better just to buy the Saturmine termies individually (if I even fancy the way they look, a big if) and the epub rulebook later

It's a core game now, it might not get epubs and pick up the mandatory app.

beast_gts wrote:
IW Warsmith Dominus Rules (PDF)

I'm a very long way from my books at the moment, so can't double check - but isn't the only 'new' thing here the combi-grav...? Otherwise it's all existing options?

Just slightly concerns me (given the talk of a new edition) that we've got a 40k-style datasheet thing with zero options, rather than them just saying IW Praetors/Consuls can take combi-gravs now for +x points which is really all it needed? E.g. Means you can't technically use this model for a Forge Lord consul or something, or convert the hammer and use him as a regular Warsmith (unless you also convert the combi-grav away).

Appreciate it isn't a massive deal on it's own, just really hope that isn't an indicator of the direction that the new edition of 30k is going to go...