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I mean, if you're talking about games in the 6K mark usually that's the point where you just start tossing in the occasional house rule, or multiple allied detachments.

As for varying detachments, that is kind of what a Rite of War is for. Some of them such as Pride do incur restrictions or allowances on how many force org slots you take.

Yea more flexibility just leads to more derangement

My wild guess, with no basis in any rumours:
3rd is a tweak edition, like 40k 3rd-4th-5th
Faction books stay valid, but GW starts a Legion splatbook (arcane journal) treadmill, when your book comes out you still need Astartes/Hereticus for vanilla units but your legion pages get replaced by the journal.
We all lose our minds because journal legions are two tiers above nonjournal legions and the last legion doesn't even get a book before 4th edition.

On Rites of War? For those reading who are looking at Heresy and thinking Marine v Marine must get boring super quickly…

That’s what Rites of War are about. They radically change how your force plays. Yes most things will be base T4 3+ Sv. But the makeup of your army can and will vary wildly.

So I really don’t see them going away. Reworked, tweaked, maybe some switched out for others? Sure. But not removed entirely.

I hope this edition sees some cool daemons of ruinstorm and dark mech releases. Spider tank has got to be around the corner, right?

I hope so. I’m well impressed with the epic scale Dark Mechanicum, and we defo need that in 28mm.

The spiders are Knight sized tho, if they ever come in 28mm they will be near the last kit for Dark Mech, not the first?

There’s not currently a lot else though.


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No idea what that is, but it looks neat!

Small chance it's the back of the dreadnought, but most likely this is a pure troll, not in the box. Maybe a later Mechanicum bit, maybe totally unrelated (like Votann)

That's a kustom force field. Heresy era Orks confirmed!

I think the troll here is that it's upside down. Considering how huge Saturnine Terminators are it might be a force field upgrade that goes between the shoulders, with the vent bits sitting under the shoulder pads.

MOAR GAKPOSTING!

On Your Marks!

We’re hearing that armour marks are no longer just aesthetic, and that units will only get the benefit of their legion rules if they’re wearing the correct mark of armour.

Iron Warriors in MKIII, Death Guard in MKII, etc…

Quite right too!

UNITS SWITCHING SIDES??

Okay, this is big.

Obviously the Horus Heresy’s all about betrayal. We are now hearing that there’s a mechanic being introduced in the new edition that allows units to leave one army and join the other MID-GAME. Not sure on details yet but will update here if we hear more. Possibly something to do with that D18!?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
MOAR GAKPOSTING!

On Your Marks!

We’re hearing that armour marks are no longer just aesthetic, and that units will only get the benefit of their legion rules if they’re wearing the correct mark of armour.

Iron Warriors in MKIII, Death Guard in MKII, etc…

Quite right too!

UNITS SWITCHING SIDES??

Okay, this is big.

Obviously the Horus Heresy’s all about betrayal. We are now hearing that there’s a mechanic being introduced in the new edition that allows units to leave one army and join the other MID-GAME. Not sure on details yet but will update here if we hear more. Possibly something to do with that D18!?

Smart move. If some of your units don't have the right mark and the opponent's army has, they'll switch sides.

Or you can exploit it, give some of your Iron Warriors Mk6 suits and when they start losing their minds you gift them to your opponent

Sounds like some Alpha Legion gak to me.

I also heard that vehicles which are painted red will automatically go faster…

The gakposting is spot on.

I appreciate it’s irritating some, and fair enough there.

But man, I’m just giggling at the daftness.

 Malika2 wrote:
I also heard that vehicles which are painted red will automatically go faster…

Sure, but the blue ones have some re-rolls and the yellow more weapon options. And we didn't even talked about camouflage, Boarbrothers and Scarmarines.

I think the only people irritated are those whove posted the type of inane theories and speculation they are parodying it. Looking at yourself in a mirror and realizing youre a clown can be hard.

Perhaps for some, sure.

But comedy, even this tomfoolery is inherently subjective.

Ah yes people who want news about something they care about and have a large financial investment in but instead are being trolled from an official corporate account with cardboard dreadnoughts and square bases are clowns if they're irritated by it.

Me, I'm chill because the box leaked and it's cool af and I can take the trolling as entertainment to pass the time until the "reveal". If the box hadn't leaked, I'd be pretty livid at the disrespect.

Calm down, its just a bit of fun.

I for one am really relaxed, leaks or not. I don't play Marines and of course the box is Marines only, but that was pre-defined and not hard to guess. I'm not miffed about their 'rumours', I think it's better than giving us just some rule snippets without context.

Geifer wrote:That's a kustom force field. Heresy era Orks confirmed!

I think the troll here is that it's upside down. Considering how huge Saturnine Terminators are it might be a force field upgrade that goes between the shoulders, with the vent bits sitting under the shoulder pads.

You might have hit on something there - maybe the Saturine Terminators (and Dread?) will have some sort of improved force field/invulnerable save mechanic?

lord_blackfang wrote:Ah yes people who want news about something they care about and have a large financial investment in but instead are being trolled from an official corporate account with cardboard dreadnoughts and square bases are clowns if they're irritated by it.

Me, I'm chill because the box leaked and it's cool af and I can take the trolling as entertainment to pass the time until the "reveal". If the box hadn't leaked, I'd be pretty livid at the disrespect.

I'm kind of on your side here?

It does feel like there's a bit of mean-spirited something or other lurking just below the surface, maybe?

Either way, not a good idea to subtly (or not so subtly) tweak your customer base because you're annoyed by yet another release leak.

they already have a reveal stream announced. we're going to be getting the real information tomorrow. it's harmless for them to joke around for a little

also, what does having spending money on the game have to do with them doing a meme website? does you spending money grant you more entitlement towards reveals?

Hearsay website was up before the leak. For all we know, other than them acknowledging it the day of? Everything else shown off/claimed was going to be anyway.

Huh?

Did someone claim that...it did?

No humour is universal, I'd go as far as to say this might be more more British aligned humour as well. Most of those annoyed or not getting it do seem to not be British (unless their indicators are wrong).

Nobody is wrong for not getting it or even not liking it, but it's a hard sell to say there's intended insult from the marketing campaign.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
they already have a reveal stream announced. we're going to be getting the real information tomorrow. it's harmless for them to joke around for a little

also, what does having spending money on the game have to do with them doing a meme website? does you spending money grant you more entitlement towards reveals?

Huh?

Did someone claim that...it did?

The basic point is that it isn't usually a good idea to insult your customer base - and we've seen in this thread that some actual customers are at least...annoyed.

It's a fine line to walk, this satire/poking fun thing they're attempting to do...so much so, that it usually isn't worth doing?

But hey, I suppose something is better than nothing?

(Maybe!)

Either way - Friday will be here soon enough!

Tomorrow in fact!

Eh this kind of annoyance is basically a storm in a teacup. It's not annoyance but impatience.

They know something awesome is coming and they want all the details on it and when they have all the details they want the prices and then the order date an then the shipping date.

All those things will happen on set dates; GW having fun with a leaks-site promoting things and getting everyone talking about it is not going to change the dates.
It's also very unlikely anyone will get turned off; if they are hyped they are hyped. Anyone who says it "stopped them buying it" was already looking for an excuse to not buy into it and would have likely latched onto something else to justify them stepping away.

 Alpharius wrote:

Either way, not a good idea to subtly (or not so subtly) tweak your customer base because you're annoyed by yet another release leak.

I'm not sure that's what is going on here - I checked the WHOIS data for the domain, and it was registered back in March, comfortably in advance of the leak.