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The proportions on those marines looks...off.

 kronk wrote:
The proportions on those marines looks...off.

Spoiler:

The heads should look smaller than the minis proportions do.

Wearing layers of armor makes the body thicker and stouter, yes?

Ha, knew they could never truly kill the Horus Heresy novels.

John French is far from the worst of them, some of his full length books are bad but he's done a couple of decent ones too, though none come to mind I'd have to look them up. I'm not writing this off yet.

Question for anyone who has the v3.0 ruleset -

Is there an explanation in the fluff for why the gun-arms of the Saturnine Terminators appear to have the gun coming directly from the elbow?

Have all Saturnine Terminators lost a forearm so they are able to carry the guns?

Scott wrote:
Question for anyone who has the v3.0 ruleset -

Is there an explanation in the fluff for why the gun-arms of the Saturnine Terminators appear to have the gun coming directly from the elbow?

Have all Saturnine Terminators lost a forearm so they are able to carry the guns?

Its not outspoken but "really bad design" is the gist of it.

Ah! The not Horus Heresy, not Horus Heresy spinoff, Horus Heresy novel series!

 Fayric wrote:
Its not outspoken but "really bad design" is the gist of it.

Oh dear. That is a shame. Well, asked and answered - thank you.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
The actual most annoying thing about these totally-not-battleforces: the perspective of the art chosen for the solar aux makes the russ look like a basilisk or other artillery.

Sure, if you squint real hard & ignore the fact that there's an obvious turret clearly shown....

Keen for this, some of my favourite HH novels were written by French (Praetorian of Dorn, Slaves to Darkness, Solar War).

Honestly, how bad could it be?

Scott wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Its not outspoken but "really bad design" is the gist of it.

Oh dear. That is a shame. Well, asked and answered - thank you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/1ku92dr/saturnine_anatomy_continued/

The proportions of them show that they are far larger than any marine that might wear them. Depending on how they are actually in the suits, determines whether those arms have limbs in them or are purely robotic.

Regardless, if their proportions are true to the marines around them (and not enlarged for modelling effect), then no marine has an arm long enough to reach past the saturnine's elbow anyway.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Honestly, how bad could it be?

GW says...."hold my bugmans"

A few more perfectly reasonable options

in essence, praise chaos because without a daemon pilot this thing aint working

Well that or a lot of extremities getting cut off.

There’s a sort of precedent for that in Spyrer Suits.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There’s a sort of precedent for that in Spyrer Suits.

FUTURE precedent! So, is the reason why there's no Saturnine in 40k that the Spire Houses of Necromunda have all the stock and retro-fitted them into Orrus suits?

All seemingly children of the STC though. Albeit with at least some naughty xeno tech in the Spyrer suits.

It could also be the same principal as the original Dreadnought armour.



All tucked up neat and tidy.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
A few more perfectly reasonable options

Spoiler:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:


My Russian is a little rusty, why are they buried underground?

Also cables attached to robots was in the robots-in-tennis-shoes series Evangelion, so there is a precedent for that bit.

It's a reference to the diagram of Saddam Hussein's hiding place where US troops found him, which has become something of a meme for some reason.

 ScarletRose wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:


My Russian is a little rusty, why are they buried underground?

Also cables attached to robots was in the robots-in-tennis-shoes series Evangelion, so there is a precedent for that bit.

It's a reference to the diagram of Saddam Hussein's hiding place where US troops found him, which has become something of a meme for some reason.

Oh. Thanks. That's a little odd choice for a meme.

 Hellebore wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/1ku92dr/saturnine_anatomy_continued/

The proportions of them show that they are far larger than any marine that might wear them. Depending on how they are actually in the suits, determines whether those arms have limbs in them or are purely robotic.

Regardless, if their proportions are true to the marines around them (and not enlarged for modelling effect), then no marine has an arm long enough to reach past the saturnine's elbow anyway.

With a little bit of imagination, anything is possible... for the Emperor!! Not my image but it does solve lots of problems and I saw it a while back online.

GW always manage to smatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
They should have made nuggetization a prerequisite of being able to use saturnine.
There is precedent with the Lorica Thallax conversion process.

Thallaxification is rather more extreme than a Common or Garden Nuggeting.

It’s pretty much the bits that go into Haggis, plus your bonce and its contents.

Well, they could have saved Murphys arm, but OCP had better options.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Thallaxification is rather more extreme than a Common or Garden Nuggeting.

It’s pretty much the bits that go into Haggis, plus your bonce and its contents.

General Grevious is a Thallax melee variant.

Isnt that just an Ursurax?

This stuff makes my brain hurt.

Is there a bit of storyline/fluff that says the dudes in the suits are "all there?"

Or could they be brains in jars?

there is not enough to get a conclusive backstory, could be just a brain in a jar (which would at least explain why this kind of armour never took off), could be a Recruit with their ass up in the air or even the full Marine just in pieces so that the hands are were the hands should be but are connected with lots of wires to the head

Who really cares how you fit someone into Saturnine armour? Terminator armour has never made sense. In fact, none of the armours and vehicles in this game world make sense from an ergonomic perspective, and most of them are wildly impractical. It’s like pointing out that sponson weapons are useless, Land Raiders have no ground clearance and you can’t fit 10 Marines into a Rhino. All true, but that’s the aesthetic of this game world. What’s the point in going on and on about it? Especially in the N&R forum.