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 tauist wrote:
Didn't expect that. I wonder if it costs 25€, pr less?

Um, no. 38,50€. So it's actually better to buy the full set for 19€ more.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Hopefully they will do the same and release Seeker squad upgrades and Destroyer squad upgrades, but they may be waiting for Mk IV before doing those.

Yeah I suspect the same thing re: waiting for Mark IV for those. Hopefully they come before too long as it's nice to finally see a decent array of infantry upgrades coming out

Yawn. Wake me up when they remember Mk V exists, or that Angron isn't the only World Eater.

 Ashiraya wrote:

ccs wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
That is true as well. If you are a pure 40k player I'd definitely approach this with caution. The Kratos rug pull was just cruel.

Awe, poor tourney players....
My Kratos plays just fine using it's Legends sheet.

So while I agree the 40k community really should embrace their PDFs like the 30k community has, the reality is it unfortunately hasn't, and not everyone has the chance of finding a legends-friendly gaming group near them. That is why I call it cruel - for a great many 40k players, "legends" is a banlist in disguise.

You're wrong. Outside of tourney play (or a GW store) the players are in complete control of how they play the game.
That they CHOOSE not to use the rules GW gives them (for free!) is 100% their fault.

ccs wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

ccs wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
That is true as well. If you are a pure 40k player I'd definitely approach this with caution. The Kratos rug pull was just cruel.

Awe, poor tourney players....
My Kratos plays just fine using it's Legends sheet.

So while I agree the 40k community really should embrace their PDFs like the 30k community has, the reality is it unfortunately hasn't, and not everyone has the chance of finding a legends-friendly gaming group near them. That is why I call it cruel - for a great many 40k players, "legends" is a banlist in disguise.

You're wrong. Outside of tourney play (or a GW store) the players are in complete control of how they play the game.
That they CHOOSE not to use the rules GW gives them (for free!) is 100% their fault.

The thing is, if the people they play against aren't willing to play against Legends units, then they can't play Legends units.

Just because you think they're wrong doesn't suddenly make their opponents chill with Legends.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s more that the Command Squad is, or I suppose now was, the outlier.

Heavy Weapons, Combat Weapons and Assault/Special Weapons are all stand alone boxes, to be bought alongside a squad in your preferred Mk of armour.

Given MkIII is the Breacher armour (being an adaptation and specialisation of MkII, rather than a true Mk in its own right), I wasn’t expecting a separate Breacher sprue.

Has anyone tried matching the arms from the melee weapons sprue (which are compatible with Mk VI armour) with the Breacher pieces? There are a lot of arms on that sprue - it should be possible to get it to work.

Is there a price list for this week?

 JNAProductions wrote:

ccs wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

ccs wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
That is true as well. If you are a pure 40k player I'd definitely approach this with caution. The Kratos rug pull was just cruel.

Awe, poor tourney players....
My Kratos plays just fine using it's Legends sheet.

So while I agree the 40k community really should embrace their PDFs like the 30k community has, the reality is it unfortunately hasn't, and not everyone has the chance of finding a legends-friendly gaming group near them. That is why I call it cruel - for a great many 40k players, "legends" is a banlist in disguise.

You're wrong. Outside of tourney play (or a GW store) the players are in complete control of how they play the game.
That they CHOOSE not to use the rules GW gives them (for free!) is 100% their fault.

The thing is, if the people they play against aren't willing to play against Legends units, then they can't play Legends units.

Just because you think they're wrong doesn't suddenly make their opponents chill with Legends.

Outside of a tournament environment, if your opponent isn't okay with you using Legends, just tell them you're not okay with them using [whatever unit they have that is legal] since, outside of a tournament, Legends are fully legal even in Matched Play.

Heresy adjacent - plastic Iron Warriors for 40k - A powerhouse Warsmith leads a new campaign for the Iron Warriors

 Snord wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s more that the Command Squad is, or I suppose now was, the outlier.

Heavy Weapons, Combat Weapons and Assault/Special Weapons are all stand alone boxes, to be bought alongside a squad in your preferred Mk of armour.

Given MkIII is the Breacher armour (being an adaptation and specialisation of MkII, rather than a true Mk in its own right), I wasn’t expecting a separate Breacher sprue.

Has anyone tried matching the arms from the melee weapons sprue (which are compatible with Mk VI armour) with the Breacher pieces? There are a lot of arms on that sprue - it should be possible to get it to work.

I was about to do that, but ran out of time last time I was at my hobby spot. Will post my findings after next session.

The left arn barely shows from under the shield, so not sure I'd even change that one (the contact with the shield arm is flat, but the angle quite specific), but right arm should be swappable, depending on the pose one is after. If you want the gun sticking out from the slot in the shield as intended, its going to require quite a specific shaped arm..

Those new red corsair raiders would probably make for great late-heresy/siege of terra models. If they're gonna start doing legion upgrade sprues, mixing them together would make for some great piratical/nearly-chaos marines on the walls at the end.

I had them pegged for Blackshields. Potentially suspicious icons and dangly bits here and there. But feeling like an under equipped and poorly supplied force.

Sure, a couple of the Bolters are anachronistic, being more modern variants. But easy enough to swap should you feel the need. And whilst I of course have me own preference there, said need is of course entirely at your own discretion.

The shield handles look like they should be compatible with the Command Squad shield arms. Not sure what to do about the bolters though.

Also that 40k terminator warsmith design is quite interesting. The frame is mostly Indomitus pattern but it's covered on Cataphractii plates. You could almost mistake it for a transitional design.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Is there a price list for this week?

Yes, here. Update is Sunday or Monday every week in that thread.

Cheers. That breacher upgrade kit is priced so badly you might as well get the box with bodies included.

On the bright side, Terminators only went up 20% per model for a sidegrade sculpt and slashing weapon options.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
The shield handles look like they should be compatible with the Command Squad shield arms. Not sure what to do about the bolters though.

Also that 40k terminator warsmith design is quite interesting. The frame is mostly Indomitus pattern but it's covered on Cataphractii plates. You could almost mistake it for a transitional design.

Oo, nice one! I do also have that Command Squad upg. frame, will check this as well the next time I'm at my hobby point.

This would actually be perfect for me since I really have no use for those extra shield arms at present.

The Breacher upgrade frame on its own turned out so expensive that I didn't really miss on any savings by going with an ebay split of the big HH box, in hindsight.

Someone did some photoshopping on Reddit, how the new 40K IW upgrades could look in HH

The heads are metal af, no argument there

They’d work for any Legion I think.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The heads are metal af, no argument there

I thought they were plastic?

 Dysartes wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The heads are metal af, no argument there

I thought they were plastic?

[get_out.GIF]

But seriously, well played. Exalted!

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Also that 40k terminator warsmith design is quite interesting. The frame is mostly Indomitus pattern but it's covered on Cataphractii plates. You could almost mistake it for a transitional design.

I noticed that too. But remember that the WHC article writers are community managers, they're not the direct lore authors themselves. The actual model is 90% Indomitus, only the pauldrons are Cataphractii, and even there only partially (a lot of pteruges are missing).

 BorderCountess wrote:


Outside of a tournament environment, if your opponent isn't okay with you using Legends, just tell them you're not okay with them using [whatever unit they have that is legal] since, outside of a tournament, Legends are fully legal even in Matched Play.

I think all of us here agree that this is totally a reasonable stance to take, but it doesn't change the original fact that doing this will leave an unfortunate number of people with no available opponents at all. Casual 40k players have ravenously adopted the tournament standard in recent years. I see casuals who will never in a million years attend a tournament still debate the latest Art of War tierlist and lament that their faction has below average podium rate.

I can only pray that 30k will remain as accepting of PDFs that it is. It's so heartening to see.

 tauist wrote:
Someone did some photoshopping on Reddit, how the new 40K IW upgrades could look in HH

They seem to work quite nicely. Almost as if they were designed with 30k in mind.

Being honest I'd done a double take thinking it was goodies for Horus Heresy.

Pages from the Black Books – Night Lords at Thramas

Well, freebies are nice, but they're still on Night Lords? We'll be in 4th edition by the time they get through 18 legions.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, freebies are nice, but they're still on Night Lords? We'll be in 4th edition by the time they get through 18 legions.

WarCom wrote:Soon we’ll be moving on to other Legions and battles from the expansive Age of Darkness, but before we bid adieu to the Nostramans for a while, there’s one more extract from their infamous campaign to catch up on next week – a tally of the worlds along the Eastern Fringe that felt their wrath. We’ll see you then!

Four for each legion will drag it out a bit.

Here's hoping for some non-SM excerpts to break things up.

There are some such excerpts to draw on, but I'd not expect them until last.

Unless they shake things up a bit to do tie ins- Night Lords now since the raptors kill team is coming out, maybe Custodes when their box comes along, possibly Iron Warriors alongside the Eye of Terror release