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deano2099 wrote:
They won't revamp the whole range again (unless they somehow lose access to the current manufacturing pipeline). 7 or so years worth of YouTube painting tutorials they've put together would be outdated overnight.

But that would also erase Duncan out of GW lore...and drive newbs to the Warhammer+ service for all the new videos...

Dropper bottles, half the paint and a $1 more, that's my guess. My second guess is paint that doesn't need to be thinned, which would agains be effectively half the paint and a $1 increase. What ever it is, I'm sure there is a $1 increase in there.

Paint that doesn't need thinning is my guess, too.

I think if it was Heresy-themed rattle cans or new paints they'd have probably saved the new painting videos until later so they can use them whilst Little Timmy is buying his first 30k miniatures.

Typhus Corrosion has been pitched for years as their equivalent of a 'weathering' paint, so I doubt it's anything 'revolutionary' like that. They got rid of the FW pigments not long ago.

Oils/enamels people have already mentioned as not being Little Timmy friendly, so it's probably not those. GW seem quite fond of their current painting advice of painting the base coat, drowning it needlessly in wash, then painting 90% of it again (using more paint of course) anyway.

They occasionally release new paints of all types without the big hype up (the Necron and Cruelboy ones come to mind) so I don't think it's just new colours.

My money's still on colour shifters but only because I don't know what else it could be.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Paint that doesn't need thinning is my guess, too.

Aren't the Air paints already close to that? (I know airbrush paints usually still need at least some flow improver)

I think it will be branded GW painting-water

 Garfield666 wrote:
I think it will be branded GW painting-water

Considering they already did that bit as an April Fool once it would be in extremely poor taste.

Maybe they're going to introduce a more expensive artist series of paints, like Kimera Kolors or Scalecolor's Artist line?

On one hand, I agree that GW would want to avoid having any toxic paints. On the other hand, new fancy paints mean fancy prices/profits.

 Arbitrator wrote:
I think if it was Heresy-themed rattle cans or new paints they'd have probably saved the new painting videos until later so they can use them whilst Little Timmy is buying his first 30k miniatures.

Typhus Corrosion has been pitched for years as their equivalent of a 'weathering' paint, so I doubt it's anything 'revolutionary' like that. They got rid of the FW pigments not long ago.

Oils/enamels people have already mentioned as not being Little Timmy friendly, so it's probably not those. GW seem quite fond of their current painting advice of painting the base coat, drowning it needlessly in wash, then painting 90% of it again (using more paint of course) anyway.

They occasionally release new paints of all types without the big hype up (the Necron and Cruelboy ones come to mind) so I don't think it's just new colours.

My money's still on colour shifters but only because I don't know what else it could be.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Paint that doesn't need thinning is my guess, too.

Aren't the Air paints already close to that? (I know airbrush paints usually still need at least some flow improver)

They basically are, yes, though too thin to use for e.g. base coating unless you're a masochist. You only need flow aid for airbrushing (rather than hairy stick) because acrylics usually dry fast on the needle tip. Though it's nice for thick chalky colours too.

They did bring back the FW paints from the dead and snuck em into the air line - maybe they plan to do the same for the weathering pigments. But it'd be odd for the references to be new colour and palettes if it's that, given you usually use them dry, and they did have the expert pigment thing for custom mixes that didn't last long.

Agree too that a handful of new colours doesn't usually elicit a 'watch this space' announcement, they get a baby article on warcom at best. So it's got to be something moderately different; but I doubt it's going to be Contrast-level, which was admittedly a big change with a whole new style of easier glazing compared to the normal GW style and has spawned a number of competitors.

I am definitely intrigued, but also moderately expecting an expensive nothing-burger.

Apart from rebranding the whole thing yet again i cant see anything they are missing exept pure weathering products.

Colored metallics like car paints?

The video didn’t give me a feeling about metallics as such. There were a lot of non metallic surfaces getting splattered by the animation. They also don’t seem like something that you would suggest was going to substantially improve or affect painter experience, given that they exist in the wider ecosystem already. But similarly I can’t think what other specific things they might be on about. Oh the suspense

 FrozenDwarf wrote:
Apart from rebranding the whole thing yet again i cant see anything they are missing exept pure weathering products.

I don't think they have fluorescent paints outside of the green one they released alongside the Necron update.

They don't have luminescent paints at all.

They don't have metallics other than silver and gold.

They don't have color shift paints.

None of that is revolutionary, but that's not going to stop GW marketing if it's a gap in their lineup they want to fill. And there's always the chance that they get it right with something that could genuinely be considered new or not represented in the modeling sector.

Copper and Bronze metallics too.

GW sales rep for local store told them a couple weeks ago that paint was coming in dropper bottles soon. I expect this is where thats heading. With that that I expect:

- 50% price hike on paints (note that they didn't touch paints in the recent price hikes, means they are definitely going to raise prices with the new product release - they likely kept prices constant in order to maintain sales of existing inventory so they could clear it out to make room for new)
- renaming of the entire paint range, again.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Paint that doesn't need thinning is my guess, too.

I hope not. Sometimes you want thick paint, and it opens up techniques that are hard to do with overly thin paint.

beefeb wrote:

arguably contrast over silver basecoat is exactly this...would introducing coloured metallics be worthwhile?

I mean, selling paint that can easily be mixed from two other paints in the range is pretty much the entire Citadel Paint business model!

 Dr. Mills wrote:
My guess is a (badly needed) update to the Colour app.

From earlier in this thread...

 Ghaz wrote:
GW has stated that they are working on an update to the Citadel Colour app in reply to a mention on Facebook that it hadn't been updated since 2019, so that's probably related to this announcement in some way (i.e., no pre-painted miniatures, etc.).

beefeb wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
GW triad sets (like Reaper ? do) as why sell one pot when you can sell 3 and induct players to the "correct" colour schemes

Most of the GW paints are already in triads of a Base and two Layer paints (e.g., Macragge Blue, Altdorf Guard Blue and Calgar Blue) as seen HERE.

Which is just weird since on their how to paint ultramarines videos they use macragge - calgar - fenrisian grey

You're reading too much into the names. Those three paints (along with Drakenhof Nightshade) are their recipe for 'Blue', not 'Ultramarines Armour'.

Maybe they'll revisit the pre-mixed glazes? The old ones were phased out when Contrast came out (Guilliman Blue, Waywatcher Green and Bloodletter).

deano2099 wrote:
Maybe they'll revisit the pre-mixed glazes? The old ones were phased out when Contrast came out (Guilliman Blue, Waywatcher Green and Bloodletter).

Contrast Paint + Contrast Medium = Glaze

GW has been very keen on catering to the
nostalgia gamers lately. So my guess its the return of Devlan Mud!
Probably exclusively included in a special (really expencive) paint set that sell out first day of proder never to be seen again.

 Ghaz wrote:

deano2099 wrote:
Maybe they'll revisit the pre-mixed glazes? The old ones were phased out when Contrast came out (Guilliman Blue, Waywatcher Green and Bloodletter).

Contrast Paint + Contrast Medium = Glaze

Again, you think that means they won't bottle up that mix and sell it?

(I also don't find it's a great mix as a glaze as the contrast medium causes the paint to run off the raised areas when often you'll actually want to tint the entire area evenly.)

A question from ignorance.

If this is dropper bottles, would that necessitate a reformulation to make the paints thinner? Only I’m imaging that open lid pot paints could be thicker than those that go into a dropper bottle?

Seriously. I’ve no bloody clue. This isn’t some kind of weird gotcha.


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deano2099 wrote:
Maybe they'll revisit the pre-mixed glazes? The old ones were phased out when Contrast came out (Guilliman Blue, Waywatcher Green and Bloodletter).

I actually found my set of those, including Lamenters Yellow. Magpies on release day, then left in Box O Stuff ever since, they’ve found a home with my mate that’s an excellent painter.

Guilliman Blue is in the other Box P Stuff. Somewhere.

I genuinely can't think of anything that they'd actually do. I don't think colour shift or anything like that as it's a bit too niche and this is being hyped as a big new product... I can only think of dropper bottles, which to be honest don't really deserve this level of fanfare either.



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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
A question from ignorance.

If this is dropper bottles, would that necessitate a reformulation to make the paints thinner? Only I’m imaging that open lid pot paints could be thicker than those that go into a dropper bottle?

I don't think so, some of my Vallejo droppers put out some pretty thick paint, certainly as thick as any GW one I can think of.

More sprays and/or specific colors for 30k legions would be my guess.

Switch to droppers is another good one. Been a while since we’ve had new pots.

Drinkable paints, each with it's own flavour, that create delicious cocktails out of your painting-water.

the joke going around over here is: double the price, half the paint!


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knowing gw though its that or dropper bottles.

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 Dryaktylus wrote:
Drinkable paints, each with it's own flavour, that create delicious cocktails out of your painting-water.

Only if they switch from acrylics to something alcohol soluble.

deano2099 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

deano2099 wrote:
Maybe they'll revisit the pre-mixed glazes? The old ones were phased out when Contrast came out (Guilliman Blue, Waywatcher Green and Bloodletter).

Contrast Paint + Contrast Medium = Glaze

Again, you think that means they won't bottle up that mix and sell it?

(I also don't find it's a great mix as a glaze as the contrast medium causes the paint to run off the raised areas when often you'll actually want to tint the entire area evenly.)

Since they discontinued the previous glazes when they released the Contrast paint, yes I do.

 Ghaz wrote:

deano2099 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

deano2099 wrote:
Maybe they'll revisit the pre-mixed glazes? The old ones were phased out when Contrast came out (Guilliman Blue, Waywatcher Green and Bloodletter).

Contrast Paint + Contrast Medium = Glaze

Again, you think that means they won't bottle up that mix and sell it?

(I also don't find it's a great mix as a glaze as the contrast medium causes the paint to run off the raised areas when often you'll actually want to tint the entire area evenly.)

Since they discontinued the previous glazes when they released the Contrast paint, yes I do.

Aye, bringing back the glazes seems a bit niche give they only just cancelled them. And thinned contrast isn't the same use, nor are the colours the same. Fortunately for continuing legacy schemes (and a very similar flow) you can mix a couple of vallejo inks to replicate them.

The return of the Foundation paint line?

The announcement itself suggest to me more than simply Droppers or Glazes.

Both could absolutely be part of it - but I’d be surprised if they’re the whole of the thing. Remember, Contrast got a decent fanfare, but the paints added since, such as ones for the AoS Dominion set, not at all.